2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

You don’t get to go around calling people dumb in whatever roundabout way you justify it, not really cool man. You need to slow your jets.

I said it was dumb logic because it was..never called you dumb

You know Im right because you are now deflecting

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

It was a tough day for those fans who want the Flames to fire sale every asset and commit to being very bad for the next 5 years to try to be potentially good and a playoff team after that.

Every time the Flames lose a game for the next 10 years, some fans will complain that the Flames never bottomed out.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne

Disappointing to not sell off any pieces imo.

Conory probably got low balled and decided not to bite.

[Ashasx]

Man I know there's still 15 minutes left, but Conroy talked often this season about weaponizing the team's cap space and acting as a middle man to help other teams facilitate trades and that really has not materialized in a way this season.

And with the cap going up significantly the next few years now, it feels like the value of doing that in future years will go down.

Pretty disappointing.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Every time the Flames lose a game for the next 10 years, some fans will complain that the Flames never bottomed out.

"M-O-O-N, Laws yes, that's how you spell Tom Cullen!"

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Man I know there's still 15 minutes left, but Conroy talked often this season about weaponizing the team's cap space and acting as a middle man to help other teams facilitate trades and that really has not materialized in a way this season.

And with the cap going up significantly the next few years now, it feels like the value of doing that in future years will go down.

Pretty disappointing.

Teams haven't needed it either though.

The only major trade with third party salary was the first Rantanen trade and that was really just Chicago dumping Hall.

Contenders that made moves all got a bunch of LTIR space to work with

[dino7c]

Far fewer trades than expected overall

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I said it was dumb logic because it was..never called you dumb

You know Im right because you are now deflecting

I’m asking you to cut it out and drop it, after calling me dumb in a thinly veiled descriptor. You are very wrong and I’m just asking not to be insulted further since you don’t seem to be in a place to control yourself.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Is that the definition of upset and going off the deep end now ?

I think people are frustrated the Flames are doing exactly what they have said they would do all year and are going to be in a position where it’s difficult to find 3 (or more) star players that you need to compete over the next few years.

This year we didn’t acquire a top prospect who could be this star OR finish bottom 5 to draft them .

Look at the teams rosters who are going for the cup. The Flames are 4 or 5 pieces away . Late 1sts aren’t going to get those players - or best case they do and they are in the NHL in 4 or 5 years

I have a hard time seeing how they get much better next year or the year after looking at the pipeline of prospects vs aging veterans . I also don’t see them getting substantially worse . So we will still have the problem of how to get stars into this lineup

The Flames have made a decision about what they want to do and we’re very open about it all year . People hoped the deadline would show a deviation from it because they dont believe the current path forward ends in success

WHo is going for a Cup this year and who are their 3 star players? My list would be

Winnipeg - Connor (17th overall), Morrisey (13th overall) and Hellebuyck (150th overall)

Washington - Ovechkin (1st overall), Strome (4th overall) and Thompson (undrafted)

Dallas (before today) - Robertson (39th overall), Johnston (23rd overall), Hintz maybe (49th overall)

Tampa - Kucherov (58th overall), Hagel (159th overall), Point (79th overall)

Vegas - Stone (178th overall), Eichel (2nd overall), Theodore (26th overall)

Florida - Barkov (3rd overall), Tkachuk (6th overall), Reinhart (2nd overall).

The only team that seems to follow this "you can only get good players at the top of the draft" appears to be Florida.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Man I know there's still 15 minutes left, but Conroy talked often this season about weaponizing the team's cap space and acting as a middle man to help other teams facilitate trades and that really has not materialized in a way this season.

And with the cap going up significantly the next few years now, it feels like the value of doing that in future years will go down.

Pretty disappointing.

There have been rumours for quite a while that flames set bar to high for weaponizing cap space

[trackercowe]

What is Pittsburgh doing as well? Keeping Rakell... Caps doing nothing as well. Weird.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Man I know there's still 15 minutes left, but Conroy talked often this season about weaponizing the team's cap space and acting as a middle man to help other teams facilitate trades and that really has not materialized in a way this season.

And with the cap going up significantly the next few years now, it feels like the value of doing that in future years will go down.

Pretty disappointing.

Everyone scammed LTIR instead

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Far fewer trades than expected overall

Isn’t that every deadline? Mostly hype little substance.

[FusionX]

I'm with most in that it's a bit of a disappointment there wasn't any significant action though given what we've heard from a direction standpoint, perhaps inactivity was the best outcome.

I wonder if the team/players actually feel rejuvenated by not having significant moves even if we clamor for changes

[Iniggywetrust]

Originally Posted by Saqe

When you swing enough times eventually something will hit lol.

Here's my mindset about the GIF's. Could he be completely lying and we're all suckers for falling for it? Yes.

Is it exciting anyways and creates a lot of conversation and speculation, which makes this more interesting? Yes.

Are there a bunch of things in life that are big scams that make us happy so we do it anyways? For sure.

It's not hurting anyone, we all get joy out of it. Let's not over think it.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

There have been rumours for quite a while that flames set bar to high for weaponizing cap space

That's what I've heard as well, but if you are setting that bar too high, you've set it at the wrong spot.

Anyway, I am glad that the Flames haven't added so far.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Man I know there's still 15 minutes left, but Conroy talked often this season about weaponizing the team's cap space and acting as a middle man to help other teams facilitate trades and that really has not materialized in a way this season.

And with the cap going up significantly the next few years now, it feels like the value of doing that in future years will go down.

Pretty disappointing.

I get the sentiment, but since march there has only been one deal where a third party retained salary, and that was a deal the Oilers made.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Removing any Flames related business from the equation, this is the perfect trade deadline. All the West contenders loaded up which means the Oilers chances of going deep in the playoffs are significantly reduced and all these teams mortgaging the future should paves the way for their declines to coincide hopefully with the ascension of the Flames at the end of the decade.

[Royle9]

Told there could be a deal in the pipeline here shortly, still talking compensation.
Wouldn't expect anything crazy.

[CF84]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

If there were good offers then absolutely. But all the evidence we have suggests that the offers were not good.

I also don't get the impression from Royle9 or the others that the Flames were doing anything other than listening to calls on Rasmus. I just think they should have been making the calls this year and actively negotiating with other teams with the goal of trying to get a deal completed.