The Tariff Thread

[BloodFetish]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I think we can remove the tariffs and act as if we're all hunky dory again, as Corsi says, but realistically I hope that others are also changing their own buying habits independently.

I love bourbon but im not buying another bottle as long as the orangutang is around.

I know I am! I just bought $14K worth of Wifi access points from a UK distributor instead of Streakwave in the US. Our previous order of this same product was from Streakwave, but damned if I'm going to send money north-south unless it's absolutly unavoidable.

[direwolf]

Lol, Trump today when signing his executive order to pause some of the tariffs on Canada and Mexico:

"It would have hurt the American car companies."

Geez, ya think? Holy f*** he's such a dumbass. This entire administration are absolutely clueless idiots.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Eventually the fentanyl/national security horse*** isn’t going to work anymore. Can’t remember where I read it, but it sounds like Canada has filed a dispute with the WTO over the illegality of the Americans breaking their existing trade agreement. Trump and the GOP know that their national emergency excuse is a load of bunk and that they don’t have a leg to stand on in regards to their reasoning.

My guess is that they’ll keep pulling the 30-day reprieve crap for as long as they can before finding some kind of an an off-ramp to save face, likely with the renegotiation of USMCA.

They’ll then spin it as a win to soothe Trump’s ego and the MAGA cult will applaud. “See? He’s the best deal maker ever!”

I think you're spot on.
I also think the 51st state stuff is a move towards long term resource agreements(stealing), much like the minerals deals with Ukraine.

Threaten the max, eventually settle at exploitation with new agreemens & claim victory.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I think you're spot on.
I also think the 51st state stuff is a move towards long term resource agreements(stealing), much like the minerals deals with Ukraine.

Threaten the max, eventually settle at exploitation with new agreemens & claim victory.

Except f*** that.

[Nancy]

Tariffs now lifted on crude as well.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-checkout=true

[Roughneck]

These tariffs be like

[GGG]

We should keep ours on. For sure all these symbolic stuff like booze and also add more symbolic things. Teslas, Twitter. Essentially until all Tarrifs have been removed and commitment to extend UCMA is reached #### him.

Trump has realized the economically devastating affects of blanket Tarrifs, we face the impact in this current uncertain environment. Now it’s time to go after specific industries that affect republican law makers specifically.

[Doctorfever]

I don’t believe that we should keep our tariffs on if he US removes theirs. We don’t need to inflict more damage on Canadians by keeping tariffs on longer than we have to. So retaliatory tariffs are something we need to do, but nothing more. We all have heard and read how tariffs are harmful to both sides, so we don’t need to contribute to the damage.

One thing that is nice to see, and unifying country-wide is that there isn’t the same hate and protest hate for new pipelines that there used to be. Wasn’t it he Liberals who were paying grants or something for people to protest the very pipeline me that they ended up buying? Crazy.

Anyways, hopefully all that virtue signaling about how all pipelines are bad for us and bad for the environment is in the rear view mirror and we can move forward to diversify our economy and trading partners on the global market.

Man, we really fell for that crap years ago. I hate to beat a dead horse, but think of how much stronger Canada would be and how much stronger our tariff negotiations would be if we had a functioning Northern Gateway, along with LNG export terminals on the way.

[direwolf]

Trump only rolled back some of the tariffs, so it's only a partial reprieve. Which is why Canada kept the initial $30 billion tariffs in place.

Ford is expected to put a 25% export tax on electricity starting on Monday, but if I were the feds, I would tell him to cool his jets until at least April 2nd. Last thing we need is to give Trump an excuse to say that we're escalating things. Although, maybe that's to counter the upcoming steel and aluminum tariffs that are supposedly coming next week? Honestly I can't even keep track anymore. This whole thing is just so stupid.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...deal-1.7476311

Even in announcing this supposed pause, White House officials said the tariff reprieve would only apply to Canadian exports that are "compliant" with the Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement (CUSMA).

The Associated Press reported that roughly 62 per cent of imports from Canada would likely still face steep tariffs, according to a White House official who insisted on anonymity to preview the new executive order on a call with reporters.

Trump's partial climbdown is just another pause and there are more of Trump's promised tariffs on steel and aluminium coming next week and beyond.

That's why Canada will not lift the tariffs it levied on $30 billion worth of American goods after Trump launched this trade war, LeBlanc said.

However, in a show of goodwill, LeBlanc said Canada has agreed to delay its second round of retaliatory tariffs worth $125 billion until April 2, when Trump's batch of so-called "reciprocal" tariffs are due to be imposed on countries around the world.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

I don’t believe that we should keep our tariffs on if he US removes theirs. We don’t need to inflict more damage on Canadians by keeping tariffs on longer than we have to. So retaliatory tariffs are something we need to do, but nothing more. We all have heard and read how tariffs are harmful to both sides, so we don’t need to contribute to the damage.

One thing that is nice to see, and unifying country-wide is that there isn’t the same hate and protest hate for new pipelines that there used to be. Wasn’t it he Liberals who were paying grants or something for people to protest the very pipeline me that they ended up buying? Crazy.

Anyways, hopefully all that virtue signaling about how all pipelines are bad for us and bad for the environment is in the rear view mirror and we can move forward to diversify our economy and trading partners on the global market.

Man, we really fell for that crap years ago. I hate to beat a dead horse, but think of how much stronger Canada would be and how much stronger our tariff negotiations would be if we had a functioning Northern Gateway, along with LNG export terminals on the way.

Until he quits threatening us with dates the economic damage is being done. So we should not be removing our counteractions until the threats are ceased.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

I don’t believe that we should keep our tariffs on if he US removes theirs. We don’t need to inflict more damage on Canadians by keeping tariffs on longer than we have to. So retaliatory tariffs are something we need to do, but nothing more. We all have heard and read how tariffs are harmful to both sides, so we don’t need to contribute to the damage.

One thing that is nice to see, and unifying country-wide is that there isn’t the same hate and protest hate for new pipelines that there used to be. Wasn’t it he Liberals who were paying grants or something for people to protest the very pipeline me that they ended up buying? Crazy.

Anyways, hopefully all that virtue signaling about how all pipelines are bad for us and bad for the environment is in the rear view mirror and we can move forward to diversify our economy and trading partners on the global market.

Man, we really fell for that crap years ago. I hate to beat a dead horse, but think of how much stronger Canada would be and how much stronger our tariff negotiations would be if we had a functioning Northern Gateway, along with LNG export terminals on the way.

That LNG plant in Kitimat should be starting operations later this year.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by chummer

That LNG plant in Kitimat should be starting operations later this year.

Correct. We are selling LNG to China.

We could be well on our way to selling LNG to Germany, but the Liberal government of the time told them they should go green. So they are burning coal. Monstrous mistake there.

We could also be selling LNG to Asia, but…..

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

I don’t believe that we should keep our tariffs on if he US removes theirs. We don’t need to inflict more damage on Canadians by keeping tariffs on longer than we have to. So retaliatory tariffs are something we need to do, but nothing more. We all have heard and read how tariffs are harmful to both sides, so we don’t need to contribute to the damage.

One thing that is nice to see, and unifying country-wide is that there isn’t the same hate and protest hate for new pipelines that there used to be. Wasn’t it he Liberals who were paying grants or something for people to protest the very pipeline me that they ended up buying? Crazy.

Anyways, hopefully all that virtue signaling about how all pipelines are bad for us and bad for the environment is in the rear view mirror and we can move forward to diversify our economy and trading partners on the global market.

Man, we really fell for that crap years ago. I hate to beat a dead horse, but think of how much stronger Canada would be and how much stronger our tariff negotiations would be if we had a functioning Northern Gateway, along with LNG export terminals on the way.

The thing is their tariffs were broad and untargeted, and ours were specifically targeted to minimize pain on Canadians and maximize pain on Republican Governors / Senators constituents. Will orange juice be more expensive? yes. But Canadians have the option of substituting some other beverage. There is no overcoming the idea of taxing a quarter of their domestic oil supply and mixing it into a commodity market.

The $30M should stay in place until he surrenders, the escalations should be put on hold unless he re-attacks.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Eventually the fentanyl/national security horse*** isn’t going to work anymore. Can’t remember where I read it, but it sounds like Canada has filed a dispute with the WTO over the illegality of the Americans breaking their existing trade agreement. Trump and the GOP know that their national emergency excuse is a load of bunk and that they don’t have a leg to stand on in regards to their reasoning.

My guess is that they’ll keep pulling the 30-day reprieve crap for as long as they can before finding some kind of an an off-ramp to save face, likely with the renegotiation of USMCA.

They’ll then spin it as a win to soothe Trump’s ego and the MAGA cult will applaud. “See? He’s the best deal maker ever!”

This is 1000% how it is going to go. I have been saying the same thing all along.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Syke warfare.

[direwolf]

I think Ford should hold off on his planned 25% tariff on electricity that is expected to go into effect on Monday. This is already starting to be reported in the U.S. as Canada escalating the fight, which of course the Trump administration will run with in the media. The last thing we need is everyday Americans suddenly thinking that we're the aggressor.

Trudeau and the federal government should tell him to hold off until April 2nd when the next round of Trump tariffs are expected.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/0...icity-00216265

Ontario Premier Doug Ford is steaming ahead with his pledge to impose 25 percent tariffs on electricity sent to the United States starting Monday, despite President Donald Trump’s decision to suspend most tariffs on Mexico and Canada Thursday afternoon.

The move is an escalation of the trade tensions between the two countries after Trump has repeatedly threatened and withdrawn tariffs against Canada, which is the U.S.’ biggest energy trading partner.

[Fuzz]

I dunno, it's kinda fun having our own unpredictable wild card to counter Trump. It's not like anything else has worked.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I dunno, it's kinda fun having our own unpredictable wild card to counter Trump. It's not like anything else has worked.

It's also mostly blue states that would be affected, so I suppose it's quite possible that Trump wouldn't even care.

I'm not seeing it being widely reported on the other major outlets yet. Perhaps they're just unaware of it, even though Ford was on Fox Business and CNN yesterday telling them exactly what he was going to do.

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

I don’t believe that we should keep our tariffs on if he US removes theirs. We don’t need to inflict more damage on Canadians by keeping tariffs on longer than we have to. So retaliatory tariffs are something we need to do, but nothing more. We all have heard and read how tariffs are harmful to both sides, so we don’t need to contribute to the damage.

One thing that is nice to see, and unifying country-wide is that there isn’t the same hate and protest hate for new pipelines that there used to be. Wasn’t it he Liberals who were paying grants or something for people to protest the very pipeline me that they ended up buying? Crazy.

Anyways, hopefully all that virtue signaling about how all pipelines are bad for us and bad for the environment is in the rear view mirror and we can move forward to diversify our economy and trading partners on the global market.

Man, we really fell for that crap years ago. I hate to beat a dead horse, but think of how much stronger Canada would be and how much stronger our tariff negotiations would be if we had a functioning Northern Gateway, along with LNG export terminals on the way.

This is a pretty big conspiracy theory. I mean, I think the Liberals didn't do themselves any favors trying to play the legal game with environmentalists (like giving them their time of day in court and such that was never going to go anywhere), but I don't think you'll find that they were directly funding them from any reputable source.

[MissTeeks]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1898058455635591436