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Old 03-06-2025, 08:25 AM   #1901
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Well after all that. It seems like a full USMCA reprieve is coming later today and it will be down to reciprocal tariffs. Donald doesn't like when the stock market sells off.
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Old 03-06-2025, 08:27 AM   #1903
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I say eff them and keep the tariffs on american goods.

Mofos gotta learn.
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I'm torn. I understand Ford's perspective - no more pauses, no more compromises, just get rid of the tariffs and we'll get rid of ours. Can't live in this realm of uncertainty. But at the same time, keeping the tariffs on just hurts Canadians. And the message to the American people still needs to be, "we don't want a trade war, we're just responding to your guy doing this".

So I think we should do the same thing we did last month.
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I'm torn. I understand Ford's perspective - no more pauses, no more compromises, just get rid of the tariffs and we'll get rid of ours. Can't live in this realm of uncertainty. But at the same time, keeping the tariffs on just hurts Canadians. And the message to the American people still needs to be, "we don't want a trade war, we're just responding to your guy doing this".

So I think we should do the same thing we did last month.
So we are going to go repack american liquor every month for the next 10 years? Eff the orange rapist. No more tariffs for the next 10 years when you are in power or we aren't taking our tariffs away.
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Old 03-06-2025, 08:35 AM   #1907
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Trumps game plan is so obvious by now. He just takes some extreme position against a (perceived) weaker opponent so you capitulate and give them the "meet in the middle" deal which is a misnomer because there was no deal extended to meet in the middle on in first place. And then, hopefully the weaker side gives in and he looks like a winner. Or if the weaker side holds, he drops the tariffs and makes up some BS that didn't actually happen about what they got out of the deal, or claims himself a hero for stopping the tariffs he threatened in the first place.

I'm glad we're playing this back at him finally. Neither economy is going to function properly with a new threat of tariffs every 30 days. Canadians are showing resolve and it makes me proud. Pulling US liquor off the shelves I think was a big move.
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Old 03-06-2025, 08:36 AM   #1908
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I'm torn. I understand Ford's perspective - no more pauses, no more compromises, just get rid of the tariffs and we'll get rid of ours. Can't live in this realm of uncertainty. But at the same time, keeping the tariffs on just hurts Canadians. And the message to the American people still needs to be, "we don't want a trade war, we're just responding to your guy doing this".

So I think we should do the same thing we did last month.
Agreed. Canada needs to be cautious here and make sure we don’t escalate anything. The orange turd and his dips*** administration started this, and we need to make sure the narrative stays that way.

If anything this at least gives us more time to beef up existing trade deals with our other allies and make some new deals as well.

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Agreed. Canada needs to be cautious here and make sure we don’t escalate anything. The orange turd and his dips*** administration started this, and we need to make sure the narrative stays that way.
Trudeau is on his way out tomorrow anyways. Might as well stick it to the orange rapist before he leaves. Take one for Canada.
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Yes, if the LCBO has to pay people who would be working their shift anyway $14 an hour to put some bottles into a box again next month, that is in fact what will be done. That's fine. The goal is to maintain the moral high ground, not take the offensive by making demands. It's a trade war - key word war. The way to win any war against the USA is to make sure the American People are opposed to continuing it. If you give them any reason at all to galvanize or whip up any sort of patriotic fervor you've done yourself a disservice.

I do think we should be clear that this is the last time we're doing this dance, three strikes and you're out. We need a clear agreement on what the USA wants us to do with regard to border security, so there's no "well I'm not convinced you've done enough".
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We can remove tariffs and still not bother selling their booze until they have firmly come to their senses. Their is no trade clause which requires us to keep a healthy stock of American alcohol on our shelves.
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I think we can remove the tariffs and act as if we're all hunky dory again, as Corsi says, but realistically I hope that others are also changing their own buying habits independently.

I love bourbon but im not buying another bottle as long as the orangutang is around.
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Brown-Forman boss Lawson Whiting said the Canadian response was "disproportionate" to the 25% levies on Canadian goods imposed by the Trump administration.

"I mean, that's worse than a tariff, because it's literally taking your sales away, completely removing our products from the shelves," Mr Whiting said.
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Knowing it would cost a crap tonne, but how long would it take for Canada to manufacture our own military equipment? Buying equipment from the US should be no longer be considered but considering the state of our armed forces if this even possible?
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Why do any of you think the "Narrative" matters? When his supporters (and the entire ####ing GoP) will genuinely believe whatever bull#### he tells them to believe
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I say eff them and keep the tariffs on american goods.

Mofos gotta learn.

Yeah, I am fine with this too. Kentucky needs to learn to diversify their economy.
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Yeah, I am fine with this too. Kentucky needs to learn to diversify their economy.
Sisterfataing and liquor is a fine base economy, Its what Edmonton aspires to be.
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Even when American booze is on the shelves, I would imagine that it is not selling well. Yanking it is obviously very symbolic and effective, but if nobody buys it and it just sits there, the impact will still be felt.

Of course, soundbites and images of empty shelves are the reason, but I do feel that most Canadians are avoiding it anyway. I know that my late 2024 toe dipping into bourbon has come to an abrupt end after one bottle, and it will take a lot more than the next tariff flip-flop by the US to get me back on board, if ever.
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Knowing it would cost a crap tonne, but how long would it take for Canada to manufacture our own military equipment? Buying equipment from the US should be no longer be considered but considering the state of our armed forces if this even possible?
Drones, we should be building enormous drone fleets.
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Even when American booze is on the shelves, I would imagine that it is not selling well. Yanking it is obviously very symbolic and effective, but if nobody buys it and it just sits there, the impact will still be felt.

Of course, soundbites and images of empty shelves are the reason, but I do feel that most Canadians are avoiding it anyway. I know that my late 2024 toe dipping into bourbon has come to an abrupt end after one bottle, and it will take a lot more than the next tariff flip-flop by the US to get me back on board, if ever.
I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised by Canadian's overall resolve here. Most people I talk to are down to avoid American products as much as they can, even if it costs a bit more. Should be doing it all the time.
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