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Old 03-07-2025, 07:53 AM   #11801
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Toronto is really zeroed on him too. That is my bet on Kunin.
Interesting. Thanks Diss. Hope Conroy’s at least makes Treliving have to pay a higher price for him.
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Old 03-07-2025, 07:53 AM   #11802
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IMO There will be no weaponizing cap space today. That money will be saved for and spent in free agency. I genuinely believe that’s always been the plan.
If they’re using it to retain on pending UFAs in other deals, though, they can do both. I think that’s what Valji’s referencing rather than us retain money on our own players over multiple years
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Old 03-07-2025, 07:54 AM   #11803
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This team isn't going to be competitive in the playoffs. Not when they'll go up against Dallas or Vegas in the first round.

This is just short sighted but I guess it's been the plan all along.
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Old 03-07-2025, 07:55 AM   #11804
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To me it would be just as short sighted to trade away players just because you can regardless of a poor return. No one is on an expiring contract, the Flames are playing poker knowing they'll be holding a hot hand in 365 days. If they start just giving guys away it does nothing for them long run. If they stand pat, they give Zary, Coronato and Wolf their first taste of meaningful hockey.

Looking at the returns right now, it's a great market. I'm not sure why you think Conroy would be giving away guys, he's done well so far in trades. I think it would be the opposite in fact, he could get major hauls to speed up the rebuild.
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Old 03-07-2025, 07:55 AM   #11805
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I think I'm resigned to minor moves today, which truly is a disappointment. Silver lining I suppose is that if anyone of significance is moved, it should be for a haul. Let's just hope someone decides to offer that haul.
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Old 03-07-2025, 07:57 AM   #11806
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Oh man if this team sees itself as “competitive” that is certainly not ideal. That is not the mindset I would want our GM to be in right now.
We’re in a playoff spot. That’s why we’re remaining competitive. Is most certainly is ideal. And we shouldn’t be making big moves unless we can land someone that has an age range that fits. Otherwise, why bother?
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Old 03-07-2025, 08:02 AM   #11807
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This team isn't going to be competitive in the playoffs. Not when they'll go up against Dallas or Vegas in the first round.

This is just short sighted but I guess it's been the plan all along.
We don't know how competitive they or any team will be until they get there. Going on a deep run would be a miracle but with a goalie like Wolf they could atleast win a series.

Either way, being in the playoffs would be a good experience for the younger players and only make them hungier to want to go back which is good for their development. It's more than just drafting.
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Old 03-07-2025, 08:04 AM   #11808
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I wonder what Craig would do if guys like Kadri, Rasmus and Coleman were pending UFA's?

My bet is he'd sell every last one of them despite being in a playoff spot. The fact that they are all under contract past this season means he doesn't have to sell them right now and submarine the team that's battled hard to stay in the playoff hunt.

If the Flames were 5+ points out though, I also bet he'd be attempting to maximize these assets right now.

All we can do is take solace in the fact that the biggest reason we are in a playoff spot right now is because they appear to have a legit starting goalie who should be around for another 8+ years through his prime.

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I wonder what Craig would do if guys like Kadri, Rasmus and Coleman were pending UFA's?

My bet is he'd sell every last one of them despite being in a playoff spot. The fact that they are all under contract past this season means he doesn't have to sell them right now and submarine the team that's battled hard to stay in the playoff hunt.

If the Flames were 5+ points out though, I also bet he'd be attempting to maximize these assets right now.

All we can do is take solace in the fact that the biggest reason we are in a playoff spot right now is because they appear to have a legit starting goalie who should be around for another 8+ years through his prime.
Probably keep them and still believe the flames can make it far in the playoffs.
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Old 03-07-2025, 08:07 AM   #11810
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I don’t mind waiting till next year to sell so that we have more leverage to demand picks in the 26 draft
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The more I think about it, the more comfortable I am with the Flames trying to get into the playoffs. They will be probably out in 5 games if they get there, but it gives the younger players a taste of playoff intensity and gives management a chance to see if any of the younger players can elevate their game even more
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Old 03-07-2025, 08:09 AM   #11812
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I wonder what Craig would do if guys like Kadri, Rasmus and Coleman were pending UFA's?

My bet is he'd sell every last one of them despite being in a playoff spot. The fact that they are all under contract past this season means he doesn't have to sell them right now and submarine the team that's battled hard to stay in the playoff hunt.

If the Flames were 5+ points out though, I also bet he'd be attempting to maximize these assets right now.

All we can do is take solace in the fact that the biggest reason we are in a playoff spot right now is because they appear to have a legit starting goalie who should be around for another 8+ years through his prime.
It's a tough pill to swallow when teams seem to be paying higher prices than expected. Trades so far seem to be great for selling teams.
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Old 03-07-2025, 08:10 AM   #11813
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It's a tough pill to swallow when teams seem to be paying higher prices than expected. Trades so far seem to be great for selling teams.
Flames luck to sell off UFAs in a weaker market
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Probably keep them and still believe the flames can make it far in the playoffs.
That is exactly what he did last year. Checks out
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Old 03-07-2025, 08:11 AM   #11815
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Ya gotta think the Lindholm deal was still about right, Tanev would’ve got a 1st, and Hanifin likely gets a good prospect included. Maybe zadorov gets a 2nd too
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Old 03-07-2025, 08:11 AM   #11816
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Probably keep them and still believe the flames can make it far in the playoffs.
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Old 03-07-2025, 08:13 AM   #11817
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While I am big on selling Anderson, I realize that’s not going to happen. I have been thinking that conny did a great job acquiring frost and farabee when he did. Something tells me he would be paying more for that trade if it was done today.
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Old 03-07-2025, 08:15 AM   #11818
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Old 03-07-2025, 08:16 AM   #11819
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I don't think Conroy is saying this team is competing for a cup. He wants to keep the team in a competitive mindset on winning every night, and not having a dog-#### roster/mentality expecting to lose every night.
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I can see how it's frustrating that the Flames seem to consistently be in a position of indecision because they're a bubble team at inopportune times. Like last year was a buyer's market when we had our big UFA sell off and this year is the seller's market and the players we could potentially move for a good haul aren't able to be moved.

Just seems to be wrong timing for almost everything.

I believe today we will see a big deal come together for the Flames in the waning9ments leading up to he deadline. It'll be fun. If not, can't wait to see what they get for Anderson in a buyer's market next year. And it will be a buyer's market because of the cap going up.
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