2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[SuperMatt18]

All Conroy is saying is it's not going to take normal rental prices to move Andersson

It's "pay the premium if you want the player now"

[Sylvanfan]

When you look at what Anderson's next contract would be and what his age will be when he signs it. You do see why a team looks at Seth Jones and thinks 5 more years that costs us 7 million for a guy this age is not so bad. Less money and less term for a guy who could be as good and possibly better.

To be clear today's 29 year old going on 30 Anderson making his salary is better. But move forward 2 years...31 year old Anderson set to make 8.5 for 7 years vs 32 year old Jones set to make 7 for 4 more.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W

While this may be true, as Royle said CC doesn't want another repeat of the Markstrom situation where the trade talk was VERY public

Maybe a cone of silence ala Luka to the Lakers. No leaks, or no deal.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

It'd take some stones for Conroy to move Rasmus in a playoff spot.

It would certainly dispell some of the stuff around direction of the team, catering to ownership to get in the playoffs and see what happens, etc.

Last year, Conroy's hand was forced. But to move Andersson? That'd be the first to really forge his vision IMO.

If Anderson gets moved, one of three things is likely true.

(1) Conroy has full autonomy of decision making;
(2) Management has bought into the rebuild philosophy, playoffs be damned; or
(3) They know Andreson will test UFA in a year and a bit, because they won't give him the AAV or the term (likely the term is the problem), so moving him now because the return is thought to be better makes sense, playoffs be damned.

In any scenario, I think its positive, as it means they understand that notwithstanding the Flames are currently in a playoff spot, they aren't really a particularly good team, and need to continue to get younger with better draft picks to become a real contender.

Getting a good return for Anderson is a very good outcome.

Anderson hasn't done himself any favours with his generally poor play this year after a hot start in his contract negotiations.

I expect any contender trading for him will see him as a two playoff rental acquisition, and go from there.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Not to put a damper on anything but Friedman said to say Anderson is not going anywhere. Conroy wants to try and re-sign him after season. Said the same about other vets not going anywhere. Also said they might try and re-sign hanly and vladar

Try to re-sign Hanley and Vladar? If you put contracts in front of them and they don't immediately sign, then bye.

[Flames_F.T.W]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

All Conroy is saying is it's not going to take normal rental prices to move Andersson

It's "pay the premium if you want the player now"

This is how he should be approaching an Andersson deal. But given his position and salary plus a chance for 2 playoff runs, surely someone will pony up

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Maybe a cone of silence ala Luka to the Lakers. No leaks, or no deal.

Could also be planting the seeds for a deal in the summer, like you said about the Luka deal all it starts with is a hey would you ever consider this.

The Markstrom situation was Fitzgerald. Not all GM's are freaks like him who can't control themselves.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I was under this impression until yesterday evening.

Although we all like big trades, if I were to bet, the conversation between now and the deadline is likely setting the table for offseason moves.

I would be pretty surprised if we see an Andersson, Coleman, or Kadri trade in the next two days. Highly unlikely, I think. Someone would have to step up big. Usually doesn’t happen.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

If Anderson gets moved, one of three things is likely true.

(1) Conroy has full autonomy of decision making;
(2) Management has bought into the rebuild philosophy, playoffs be damned; or
(3) They know Andreson will test UFA in a year and a bit, because they won't give him the AAV or the term (likely the term is the problem), so moving him now because the return is thought to be better makes sense, playoffs be damned.

In any scenario, I think its positive, as it means they understand that notwithstanding the Flames are currently in a playoff spot, they aren't really a particularly good team, and need to continue to get younger with better draft picks to become a real contender.

Getting a good return for Anderson is a very good outcome.

Anderson hasn't done himself any favours with his generally poor play this year after a hot start in his contract negotiations.

I expect any contender trading for him will see him as a two playoff rental acquisition, and go from there.

I think he's probably made a strong case for number 1 on your list based on this year's results. He's demonstrated that turning over the roster and going younger can achieve a team that competes, and maybe sooner than anticipated.

[Vinny01]

I could see the Flames do the buy and sell type approach the Canucks took a couple years back with the Horvat and Hronek trades. There was the Carlo rumors which make more sense if Andersson is being traded.

[Muta]

While I want the best offer for Andersson regardless whether its today or in the summer... hopefully a GM or two get desperate today and swing for the fences, and completely blow Conroy's tits off.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I was under this impression until yesterday evening.

That’s what I like to hear. Get it done conny!!

[TheIronMaiden]

So anything imminent or should I quit slacking and checking CP every 15 minutes?

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

lol saying Rasmus is a depth dman and that he might not crack their top 4 is a huge undervaluing of the player.

Honestly it's one is the sliliest posts I've seen here, the guy just played for Sweden in a best on best and now he can't crack the stars top 4.

I guess Nils Lundqvist, Codi Ceci, or Iyla Lybushkin are all better RH dmen.

If the Stars trade for Andersson he's paired with Harley or Heiskanen and they are instantly better

He would no question be the Stars 4th best dman at best. What's the definition of depth, bottom half of your defense core?

Comes playoffs Harley and Heiskanen will be around 25-30 minutes a night and I'm putting Lindell out against the top guys on the other team over Rasmus. Why pay top prospects that are already on the team for a guy that will not crack your top unit, the PP at all or your top pk unit? Sounds like a depth add to me.

50% RS you could get a lot, not Bichsel though. That is silly IMO

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

All Conroy is saying is it's not going to take normal rental prices to move Andersson

It's "pay the premium if you want the player now"

I get that. I just wonder if connys “ premium” is realistic.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

He would no question be the Stars 4th best dman at best. What's the definition of depth, bottom half of your defense core?

Comes playoffs Harley and Heiskanen will be around 25-30 minutes a night and I'm putting Lindell out against the top guys on the other team over Rasmus. Why pay top prospects that are already on the team for a guy that will not crack your top unit, the PP at all or your top pk unit? Sounds like a depth add to me.

50% RS you could get a lot, not Bichsel though. That is silly IMO

Andersson is better than Lindell. And in terms of current on ice impact he's probably equal to Harley in terms of current performance with Harley being worth more and younger.

I think he could potentially get Bichsel as a return but even if it's not Bischel that doesn't mean he's a depth dman that doesn't crack the top 4

[iloveicedhockey]

I'm surprised we haven't seen more trades go through today so far. Probably a big domino to fall first perhaps.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey

I'm surprised we haven't seen more trades go through today so far. Probably a big domino to fall first perhaps.

The entire league is busy trying to acquire and sign Rantanen.

Just before the deadline this will be completed and the other trade will be Miromanov for a 6th. The talking heads will be exhausted trying to fill air out of nothing all day.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Not to put a damper on anything but Friedman said to say Anderson is not going anywhere. Conroy wants to try and re-sign him after season. Said the same about other vets not going anywhere. Also said they might try and re-sign hanly and vladar

But why?....

Like if someone wants Coleman, by all means, send us an asset.

And did we lose faith in Cooley already?

Hanley and Andersson I'm fine with for the right terms.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

In light of playing Dallas later today, who says no :

Andersson (50% retained)

For

Bishcel and Bourque

I think maybe Dallas.