Every team in both the west and east chasing the 8th spot all have negative goal differentials. I don’t think I’ve seen that before. It happened with Washington last year.
The really surprising thing is that only six teams in the West have positive goal differentials. (Minnesota, at –3, could easily flip to make seven.)
That means, by normal standards, somebody who doesn't deserve to be in the playoffs is probably going to get in this year. As Doodles Weaver once said, it'll either be a photo finish or an oil painting.
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Didn’t know the Wild are a - as well. Kings are just a plus 8. Might just end up being Winnipeg Colorado or Vegas as the contenders out of the west. Pretty brutal.
Goal differential is pretty useless unless you can remove ENGs, since those occur at times when allowing an additional goal would not affect the outcome of a game.
For example, in this game, the Flames really won by 2.
Didn’t know the Wild are a - as well. Kings are just a plus 8. Might just end up being Winnipeg Colorado or Vegas as the contenders out of the west. Pretty brutal.
Goal differential is pretty useless unless you can remove ENGs, since those occur at times when allowing an additional goal would not affect the outcome of a game.
For example, in this game, the Flames really won by 2.
Unfortunately, the stats aren't set up to allow you to do that easily.
Fortunately, ENGs tend to be pretty randomly distributed among teams that lose games. Which means they tend to slightly increase the positive goal differentials of good teams and the negative goal differentials of bad teams, without really affecting the rankings.
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Goal differential is pretty useless unless you can remove ENGs, since those occur at times when allowing an additional goal would not affect the outcome of a game.
For example, in this game, the Flames really won by 2.
ENG don’t make good teams a positive and don’t make bad teams look even worse.
Unfortunately, the stats aren't set up to allow you to do that easily.
Fortunately, ENGs tend to be pretty randomly distributed among teams that lose games. Which means they tend to slightly increase the positive goal differentials of good teams and the negative goal differentials of bad teams, without really affecting the rankings.
I’m open to seeing the data, if you have any. I don’t think coaches are equally cavalier about when they will do so and encouraging(!) defensive play when it’s done. My hypothesis is that a lot of the uptick in scoring in recent years has been due to a light bulb finally going off league wide that losing by 1 or 10 is the same thing.
Let's see... play against the top team in the league in WPG, Flyers win. Team that is struggling to score, playing 4th game in 6 nights and looks lost in CGY, Flyers loss. This game has classic Flyers written all over it.
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Booo. Top pick for top center prospect is far more important than sneaking into playoffs to lose in 1st round
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Excited for the game but way more excited for some trades.. its getting close to the wire and the closer we get the more I feel like nothing will happen...
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Sam is my slam dunk #1, this coach is so awful.
This guys isn’t a NHL goalie
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I wanna lose but hope Meech continues his tear. Also hope Pelletier has a good game against his former team
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Sam gone from Anti-Tank to Tank Commander in a hurry
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I'm attending which means that one of these teams will have a 2-0 lead.
Every game i've been to this year has had that occur.
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Looks like tank’s back on the menu boys!
Homecoming Parade
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Here’s hoping for hattys by both Frost & Farabee.
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i came to say the exact same thing
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Do Farabee and Frost get ovations TN?
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i was thinking brotherly boo’s
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Are we expecting Torts to scratch Kuzmenko/Pelletier out of pure spite?
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He's going to try to scratch Frost on Calgary's behalf.
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I forgot Pelletier was on this team
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We all know how these games go.
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Do Farabee and Frost get ovations TN?
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This game decides who won the trade, right?
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I obviously want a flyers win , but I hope Beezer and Frosty get a warm welcome home their first time back from the crowd , they may have dropped off towards the end but they played their hearts out for this city.
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Looking forward to seeing the boys again. I know Bee and Frost aren’t exactly thriving in Calgary just yet (3G 1A combined in 10 games), but I really do wish them the best in their careers.
Not tonight though. Tonight I wanna get the revenge game for Kuzy, not be revenge game victims.
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So that's how you get Frosty to complete a pass to a Flyer, put him on the other team.
Gotta Spite Torts
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Frost had more movement on that single powerplay than his entire tenure with the Flyers.
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Ristolainen is the first option on the PP...not Drysdale, not York, not Sanheim....Ristolainen
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I take it our goaltending has been lacking this game. Is Brink-Cates-Foerster our 1st line now?
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Dumb franchise.
Why develop young players into bottom 6 forwards, when you can just over pay 35 year olds?
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Tortorella still going to run Ersson into the ground,cause why not?
Makes too much sense to give Fedotov more starts
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According to torts, its also the 2nd and 3rd line too
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Tortorella would've had a stroke if Frost scored that.
Damn it.
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Looks like torts has the lines in a blender already
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Torts? Unsavory language? Whaaaaaaaat?
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me to torts: play hot hand
torts to me: no
Zary with a tip
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Nice tip by Zary. Ersson a little deep there.
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Couple MM points and one more for frost and then we seal the loss
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You know if we had a really good puck moving dman. No offense to sanheim and maybe York, but one D who could either skate or pass up ice with efficiency they'd probably be in a better spot.
That and if they had more skilled forwards
And better coaching
And a better run organization
And better everything really.
Kadri rips one short-side
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Hmmmm
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Oh look, 2-0.
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WTF Tippet. That was beer league defense. Hopefully he yelled "lookout!"
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This is gonna get ugly lol
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Well that was a really bad goal.
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Lolllllzzzz Tippett. What was that defense?
Kadri makes it 2-0.
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wait. I thought Calgary couldnt score
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Disgusting
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WTF is going on? f***ing Yandle vibes going on right now.
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I walked away to make coffee and 2 Goals happened?
*Edit* Well, it wasn't me.
Zary chases the goalie
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3-0 haha
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3-0 is the new 2-0.
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Well, that escalated quickly
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I know everyone wants to go down all the time nowadays but seems when a guy is wide like that the goalie should just stand up straight.
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Not even half a period, damn. That's going to be a confidence killer.
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You hate to love to see it.
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lol ersson is a number 1 goalie
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Ersson just #### his last 4 periods.
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Ersson is on fire tonight
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erss i’m literally your #1 defender but what were you doing
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Gotta pull Ersson. F***ing terrible.
Can't put into words how awful that goal was by Ersson.
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When Ersson is bad he is the worst goalie that ever lived.
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Looks like I made the correct decision to leave Ersson on the bench in fantasy
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Ersson and a 1st for Georgiev
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Ersson is either very good or dog ####. There is no in-between.
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Just tuning in. Am I seeing this right that Ersson let in 3 goals on 5 shots?
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misheard boosh and heard "wolf is a 200 ft player" and now I need offensive goalies that rush up the ice every play, center ice rule be damned
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can’t believe my mental health rests entirely on whether erss has a good game or not…my boy
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Something tells me Ersson don't got it
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“I got it! I got it!…….I….dont got it.”
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Pulling Ersson? Can we pull Laughton and Risto too?
Sharangovich snaps the slump
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That's bad, Fedotov
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Alas!
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Oh for ####'s sake.
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we cannot give up a goal immediately after scoring one
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This game is going to end 9-7 lol
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It took until the fifth goal for either one of Farabee or frost to get a point
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It’s so bad. How can they be this dumb?
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Beat the best team in the league on the road, come home and lose
Experience Flyera hockey
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Perfectly logical sequence of hockey going from jets game to this.
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The light at the end of the tunnel might be an oncoming train
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Ersson tanked the game in under 10 minutes, they played fine for the next 5, and since then no one on the ice seems to give a ####
Weegar rips one on the PP
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i seriously just can’t understand how our game can fluctuate this much within a week
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Flyers need 3 goals...in the 3rd period...Michkov is #39...3+3+3=9...Michkov hat trick confirmed!
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Back to .500 and hopefully under .500 like we belong
Team has -25 goal differential and still has some people hoping for the playoffs
What we need is a top pick
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The Flyers sure are easy to play against for a team dedicated to the idea of being hard to play against, rather than to actually winning.
Scoronato into the EN
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MM goal, regulation loss, perfect!
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Feels like a Monday night game against a crap team .
Not mentally engaged.
Only thing worth anything on entire Calgary team is Kadri. And Kadri ain’t marketable so he’s in Calgary for a reason too at this point . He’s just not a great human being from what I’ve been told . But he’s a legit top 6 center for sure
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The first 30 minutes of this game was so much fun. And it has been open skate since. They should just have some little kids with walkers on the ice.
DIG THE #### IN!
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wow. we look certifiably terrible in all facets of the game
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This is some decade of darkness #### man
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This feels like a players only meeting type game. Hoping they pull their collective heads out of their asses.
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Time for a player only meeting. And someone pls tell KK to stop icing new lines every game
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This recent stretch of poor games has significantly increased the price for the Oilers acquiring a goalie.
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Stauffer and Gage couldn’t have made it any clearer during the intermission that the Oilers management believes Stuart Skinner is their man and they have no intention of trading him this season. That convinced me this team is missing the playoffs.
We are sitting at 74 points right now. This seems like it could be a down year in the Western Conference so it’s possible that the playoff line could be as low as 92 points this year (it’s usually higher). It’s hard for me to look at what we’ve seen from this team over the last 10-15 games and see where the 9 more wins we are going to need are going to come from. It’s one thing to struggle and lose games but we haven’t even been competitive in most of them. We could be looking at a really ugly 6 weeks to finish the season.
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I cannot ####ing wait to see how the oilers media spin us not trading for a goalie after a 7 game stretch where we’ve had 1 average goaltending performance.
It’s gonna be a masterclass
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The score, frankly, flattered them. They look completely checked out, with no discernible reason or explanation why, and have looked that way for almost a month. WTF is wrong in that room, I've no idea. Deficient EVERYWHERE on the ice.. in net, with the coverage, in puck battles, puck management and decision making, in their preparation to play, in their work rate and effort... There is no way this team doesn't bow out in the first, if they even make it in at this point. Completely shambolic state of affairs -- this is after they managed to make it to first place, FFS.
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I should take another month off.
Thing is I watch teh games anyway so not saving from that pain.
This roster is so flawed, peaked early, now bone tired lineup going down the stretch. Slow and old team getting worse.
Tonight we saw youth and speed just undress us. Not like the Oilers could even do much about it. GEtting beat to pucks all night and getting outskated all night.
Connor Brown symbolic of how much this team sucks and how slow it is. Thought he was supposed to be getting healthy at some point. Lately this is looking like last season Connor Brown. Actually all of 2025 he's been more than awful.
The EV score tonight 6-0, at home. Oilers got their doors blown off.
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Jeff Skinner curse is so real. That man is not gonna play in a single playoff game if we continue to do 2-7-1 every 10 games for the rest of the season.
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This is the same version of the oilers that led to Woodys firing. What are the options here? Maybe coach #...(what is it since mcdavid has been here) 7? Could make a difference. Where the #### do you realistically go from here?
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Damn, player regression, front office mistakes in the offseason, and poor goaltending are reeeaally haunting the team. Absolutely lifeless right now, and I have no faith they will find the cohesion or effort needed for postseason success. Sure hope I'm wrong and they can dig the #### in and get it the #### together.
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I’m as angry as I’ve been at this organization in a while. A quick glance at the analytics from last playoffs showed that Janmark, Henrique and Brown were demolished in shots and chances last playoffs, but were only saved by an unsustainable shooting percentage. The team decided to get rid of all its young guys, depth and hitch its wagon to those aging, bad players. I’ve never seen an organization in pro sports ditch their up and coming 23-26 year old players to sign 30+ journeymen who came from bad teams.
This organization was wandering in the desert until it got gifted Mcdavid and Draisaitl, two of the best in the league. They spent the first part of their careers messing around with Chia gutting their ELC and post ELC years. Finally, in their late 20s the team around them slowly came together, only to be gutted by an organization that AGAIN got fooled by small sample percentages- like they did with trading Eberle, trading Strome for Spooner, signing Nurse to 9.25, signing Kassian and bridging Nurse, etc etc. Not to mention that we haven’t had a legit starter since what, 2017? For one year?
We have no prospects or young guys coming up. I don’t care about how you feel about McLeod and Foegele, they’re miles better than our current bottom 6- not to mention Holloway and Broberg. Summer of JJ will go down in infamy, and if this organization loses 97, they deserve every bit of it.
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Farabee had a great game. He's really coming along.
Easily his best game as a flame IMO. Not just because of the shots but he even looked way faster and had more jump. I understand you get a boost playing against your old team but damn it shouldn’t make that much of an impact, anyways hopefully he continues playing this way.
Came out of it fairly well against teams that "know how to prevent zone entries?" We went 1-2-1 against those teams, were outscored 8-1 in the three games we lost and were shutout twice. The WSH game was promising for sure, but the games against FLA, TBL and CAR most certainly were not.
It's post all-star now. Meaning teams are starting to ramp up their play. Once the trade deadline is gone the play will ramp up even higher. Scraping our way into the playoffs is a nice gesture, and it even puts a couple home gates in the owners' pockets, but if we can't beat the playoff teams now -- what are we gonna do against them when we're actually in the playoffs?
The has been a relatively fun season, and I'm not looking to ruin it for anyone, but I don't want to just fight and battle for two home playoff games every season like it's our version of a Stanley Cup. I want the actual Cup.
We actually played pretty good against Tampa, I know we didn’t score and not excusing our scoring woes but in that game I felt like we were carrying the play but just didn’t have the finish.
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