2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The Flames aren't going to try and lose lol...they are currently in a playoff spot

And its not like its one team that needs to pass the Flames to get into the bottom 10 there are a handful, most of whom the Flames have games in hand on.

We agree, I don't think the Flames are going to tank, they're going to push for a playoff spot no matter what trades might or might not happen, as they should.

The point I was trying to make was that trading a vet just to try cement a top 10 pick is stupid, when they could just force it to happen without losing an bargaining leverage Re: players whose contracts expire in 2026.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by dino7c

based on what exactly? They are getting worse not better...they traded Miller and are now gonna move Boeser. When they had those guys they were even with the Flames

As I said, they're a mess, but they've still got more weapons than the Flames.

Look at the Flames remaining schedule in March. I've got 3-4 wins, perhaps optimistically.

It's just not as big of a hill as you're suggesting. Not even close.

[dino7c]

Flames have 2 games in hand on the blues, 2 in hand on the Bruins, 1 on Montreal, 1 on Utah, 1 in hand on the Rangers.

Even if the Flames lose and all those teams win you have teams like CBJ slightly above that could easily drop too. I'm certainly not guaranteeing playoffs but its not as simple as "2 points out of top 10"

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

As I said, they're a mess, but they've still got more weapons than the Flames.

Look at the Flames remaining schedule in March. I've got 3-4 wins, perhaps optimistically.

It's just not as big of a hill as you're suggesting. Not even close.

The Flames play 4 current playoff teams in their next 10 games...I mean if you want to bet I will take the over on 4 wins in March. The Panthers game is the only game the Flames actually played bad in.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Vancouver and Montreal can absolutely pass us without a sweat.

So then you're talking about 3 teams: Boston, St. Louis and Utah. To make up 2 points in 20 games.

Not that crazy.

Boston is hosting a fire sale, I doubt they will improve in the standings.

[Beninho]

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[dino7c]

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Beninho

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[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The Flames play 4 current playoff teams in their next 10 games

After tonight, it's tough sledding. Only 5 of their remaining 12 games this month are against non-playoff teams, and 2 of those non-playoff teams are middle of a pretty tough road trip.

[dammage79]

That's what I mean, the Flames have been operating at full power most of the season relying on low scoring games and the Stellar efforts of Wolf. And their reward is exactly where they are in the standings. In theiddle of the tightest race I can recall and now that teams are picking up steam they're slipping little by little.

They're literally on the razors Edge of one side being the low seed in a playoff or a top ten pick. It can go either way. But we've seen their best. I don't think it's good enough to make it.

[TheIronMaiden]

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

After tonight, it's tough sledding. Only 5 of their remaining 12 games this month are against non-playoff teams, and 2 of those non-playoff teams are middle of a pretty tough road trip.

I will take the over on 4 wins in March...Like I have said they have 3 wins in their last 10 and are virtually in the exact same spot standings wise. Teams below them are gonna sell more than the Flames.

They were a bounce or call away from beating the Canes on the road. They played one terrible game in Florida. Played well in Washington and Tampa IMO.

Might as well be cheering for the Devils to tank because I don't think the Flames are picking top 10. Just my opinion.

[dammage79]

You know a LHS dman I think would be good for the Flames? Alexander Romanov.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I will take the over on 4 wins in March...Like I have said they have 3 wins in their last 10 and are virtually in the exact same spot standings wise. Teams below them are gonna sell more than the Flames.

They were a bounce or call away from beating the Canes on the road. They played one terrible game in Florida. Played well in Washington and Tampa IMO.

Might as well be cheering for the Devils to tank because I don't think the Flames are picking top 10. Just my opinion.

They’ve been good against bad teams, and like you or someone else said 6 of their next 10 are against teams outside the playoff spots.

I’d love it if they made the playoffs without adding anyone, or ant least not adding anyone over 26 years or age.

Then trade a vet or two at the draft for picks/prospects.

[dino7c]

I'm not even saying they will make the playoffs...I'm saying we should hope they do because I don't think they are picking top 10 if they don't.

Tankathon has the Flames remaining schedule at a mid 14th and Vancouver at 7th hardest. Flames have ticked off a few of their hard games this past week and flipped the Canucks. Also that last game against LA could be a gimme (famous last words I know) but the chances of that meaning anything for them is low.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The Flames play 4 current playoff teams in their next 10 games...I mean if you want to bet I will take the over on 4 wins in March. The Panthers game is the only game the Flames actually played bad in.

I agree with alot of what you are saying in this thread but you're setting the bar way too low. High danger chances at even strength were something like 17-4 in the Carolina game. Flames aren't scoring and it's not because of hot goalies. They can't generate anything, a trend that has been there all season long and might be catching up with them.

[dino7c]

Maybe, there are a lot of spots between WC2 and 10th though...its not either or

Boeser also turned down 5x8 apparently so he is probably gone

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I agree with alot of what you are saying in this thread but you're setting the bar way too low. High danger chances at even strength were something like 17-4 in the Carolina game. Flames aren't scoring and it's not because of hot goalies. They can't generate anything, a trend that has been there all season long and might be catching up with them.

It's actually the "against" that's run away from them.

They are something like 30% worse in what they are giving up per game now compared to 20 games ago, but only 5% worse in what they're generating.

Through like 30 games they were averaging about 10.0 high danger chances against per 60 minutes which was top 10 to top 12 in the league.

Now they are over 13.0 / 60 which is 32nd.

So top 20 offence and top 10 defense became top 15 offence and bottom 5 defense.

That's not going to end well.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Maybe, there are a lot of spots between WC2 and 10th though...its not either or

Boeser also turned down 5x8 apparently so he is probably gone

I agree, I'm not even thinking about bottom 10. Flames have shown an ability to keep it close, doubt that disappears entirely.

[dino7c]

basically I'm saying they can outplay Vancouver the rest of the way...not a high bar and they have an "easier" schedule based on opponent win percentage than the Canucks do. Its also more likely the Canucks sell because they actually have a significant UFA.