How the eff do people here get “I am not endorsing Trump” and “sad state of politics” with not sure if Trudeau is worse that Trump?
I am trying to explain why politicians in the past own a part in crafting an environment of Trump. One I lement. As I wrote.
Anyways, put words in my mouth. Shrug.
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Clinton impeached. Trudeau several ethics violations. Both caught in lies multiple times. Trudeau exposed as a fake over and over. Trump re-elected despite clearly being as much if not worse.
So what words exactly did people put in your mouth? I kind of feel like this language is incredibly cut and dry and that there's not really any nuance required to understand what you are saying, but if you'd like to try and expand on what we all misinterpreted feel free to do so.
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Wakey wakey you stupid ####ing yanks, are yall doing anything today about this or just going to keep “hoping” and dismissing everything as “doom and gloom”?
I think Canadians should be very concerned about that exchange yesterday. It’s not hard to see our PM sitting there, being dressed down by Trump and Vance with the same rhetoric and facing our own existential crisis. Would anyone really be that surprised at this point, if whoever our Prime Minister ends up being faces this same line of attack and same idea of a US claim on our sovereignty and resources in exchange for defence?
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Wakey wakey you stupid ####ing yanks, are yall doing anything today about this or just going to keep “hoping” and dismissing everything as “doom and gloom”?
Thoughts and prayers oughtta do it!
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There are two choices you face as a world leader at the WH - neither are attractive. You’re either a sycophant or you’re bullied.
It’s probably best to just not go. What is the point? Even if you do agree something, the US will welch on any deal whenever it suits.
It's always been this way with the US. This time though, they're doing it to a white, European nation. Normally, they're consistent with doing it to brown/Asian nations.
I read a tweet or something the other day, something along the lines of:
500 million civilian guns in the US. Surely we can find one, just one, that knows the mission.
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The other day the Palm Beach county sheriff’s department put out an alert for a missing and endangered person. I get an automated call and text when that happens.
This missing person was a young Hispanic woman, last seen at PBIA, asking for directions to Mar a Lago. That was pretty interesting. She wasn’t “missing”, she just got here.
I’ve never heard anything more about it but I hope she’s okay.
The apparent apathy from the general American public about all of this is incredibly worrisome. What happened to all that second amendment bulls*** about rising up against a tyrannical government? Now's the time, you idiots. Wakey wakey.
The great majority of Americans have zero interest in anything that happens outside their borders. Americans care more about the price of eggs than about anything that happens in Ukraine. Or Canada for that matter.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
I think Canadians should be very concerned about that exchange yesterday. It’s not hard to see our PM sitting there, being dressed down by Trump and Vance with the same rhetoric and facing our own existential crisis. Would anyone really be that surprised at this point, if whoever our Prime Minister ends up being faces this same line of attack and same idea of a US claim on our sovereignty and resources in exchange for defence?
It wouldn’t be surprising at all. And if it did, I doubt we’d get the kind of diplomatic support Ukraine is getting from Europe. Ukraine is vital to their security and Canada isn’t. We’re on our own, folks.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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When the world's safety blanket turns heel. I think the world could accept America's Flaws because they kept the Putin's at bay. But now that's it's turned it back on all Allies, everyone kind of scared and wondering who's going to step up to the largest military in the world who's decided to tag team with the 2nd largest, or 3rd largest don't exactly know where the rankings are at today.
Luckily, I think the war in Ukraine showed that Russia isn't as powerful as they show. Maybe that is something we should have known given the whole iron curtain thing. We didn't know how effed they were until the U.S.S.R crumbled.
The whole premise of perception of power doesn't work when you can't even take over the country you're invading and desperately need help to accomplish the goal..
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It wouldn’t be surprising at all. And if it did, I doubt we’d get the kind of diplomatic support Ukraine is getting from Europe. Ukraine is vital to their security and Canada isn’t. We’re on our own, folks.
Yup. We are Ukraine without Europe.
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It was in response to someone saying that trump had more than 50% of the people vote for him. Saying that only 30% voted for Harris in response doesn't really make sense. You could also say that only 31% voted for Trump.
I don't have any way of predicting the future, so any absolute suggestions of what will happen are only guesses at best, but what would be a more ridiculous suggestion? The idea that there won't be elections, or that there won't be a backlash from voters? America has a lot of problems right now, but one thing I'm very, very certain about is that nobody in the population would accept not being able to cast a vote.
Geez, I know the thread is doom and gloom, and for good reason, but let's not lose our heads okay?
#### man, aren’t you one of the well educated ones???? Don’t you work at a uni or something. Holy #### you guys are more clueless to what’s happening than I can even imagine.
I don't know, I think there's likely been a lot of discussion happening behind closed doors between the remaining democratic countries, and these talks probably ramped up even more after yesterday's disgraceful events.
As soon as Trump announced tariffs back in February, Trudeau, Melanie Joly and other Canadian officials were already in Brussels meeting with various leaders. And I seriously doubt that they were just talking about AI. Trudeau and Macron had a private meeting as well while he was over there. Exactly what was discussed between the two was not made available to the press.
A Canadian trade delegation was also sent to Australia around the same time.
And I read yesterday that Trudeau has spoken to the British PM twice in the last couple of weeks, and Joly was also in the UK earlier this week meeting with British officials. Maybe I'm just trying to find some hope in all of this, but I refuse to believe that Canada is alone in this fight. I said this earlier in the thread and I'll say it again. The only way the world will get through this is if the remaining free democratic countries can band together and come up with solutions. And I think we're seeing evidence of that happening. It's the only way forward, and I think leaders around the world are realizing this.
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