American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Zelensky interview on Fox News right now

https://www.foxnews.com/video/5614615980001

Absolutely devasting stuff today and it absolutely sucks for Zelensky to be in this situation. He's still trying to keep diplomatic ties with such an insane asylum with clear lips on Putin's #### because he has to.

Lol! Calling for Zelenskyy to step down??

What kind of Kool-Aid is that clown chugging? Because he's chugging it by the gallon!

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

That's definitely not true. You're confusing electoral college results with the actual popular vote count.

Trump had 77,284,118 votes, or 49.8 percent of the votes.

Harris had 74,999,166 votes or 48.3 percent of the votes.

It's a difference of a little over 2 million votes in a country of 340 million, which is less than 1% of the total population (not total voting population, but still).

The idea that this man has an overwhelming majority of the population on his side or some sort of mandate from the people is bull####. He's losing support quickly and is probably only going to have total Republican control of the branches for 2 years until midterms. People are already pretty pissed with the results of his work. It's gonna be a bloodbath.

This is adorable. Good luck dude.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

That's definitely not true. You're confusing electoral college results with the actual popular vote count.

Trump had 77,284,118 votes, or 49.8 percent of the votes.

Harris had 74,999,166 votes or 48.3 percent of the votes.

I think you missed the point. There were ~245 million eligible voters.

75 million / 245 million = 30 percent of people decided to show up and try do something about stopping Trump from taking office, or 1/3 as Huntingwhale said.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Safe to say that the G7 meeting in June is gonna be an absolute s*** show if Trump actually shows up. If he tries to pull the same childish reprehensible crap that he did with Zelensky today, I hope every other leader there tells him to shove it up his stupid fat arse.

There is no way in heil that Trump is turning up.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

I think you missed the point. There were ~245 million eligible voters.

75 million / 245 million = 30 percent of people decided to show up and try do something about stopping Trump from taking office, or 1/3 as Huntingwhale said.

It was in response to someone saying that trump had more than 50% of the people vote for him. Saying that only 30% voted for Harris in response doesn't really make sense. You could also say that only 31% voted for Trump.

I don't have any way of predicting the future, so any absolute suggestions of what will happen are only guesses at best, but what would be a more ridiculous suggestion? The idea that there won't be elections, or that there won't be a backlash from voters? America has a lot of problems right now, but one thing I'm very, very certain about is that nobody in the population would accept not being able to cast a vote.

Geez, I know the thread is doom and gloom, and for good reason, but let's not lose our heads okay?

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Safe to say that the G7 meeting in June is gonna be an absolute s*** show if Trump actually shows up. If he tries to pull the same childish reprehensible crap that he did with Zelensky today, I hope every other leader there tells him to shove it up his stupid fat arse.

I honestly hope he steps out to take a leak in the woods and gets mauled by a bear.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

I honestly hope he steps out to take a leak in the woods and gets mauled by a bear.

I'd prefer gored by a Moose or devoured by a rabid pack of Beavers. Maybe even a coordinated Canadian Air Force attack from our unofficial Air Force of indiscriminately angry Geese...

Maybe all at once? Lets go all out. Why half-ass this?

[Locke]

Okay, okay....the Beavers dont 'have' to be rabid, just angry.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Locke

I'd prefer gored by a Moose or devoured by a rabid pack of Beavers. Maybe even a coordinated Canadian Air Force attack from our unofficial Air Force of indiscriminately angry Geese...

Maybe all at once? Lets go all out. Why half-ass this?

I know a guy.

Spoiler!

[bluejays]

I'm not adding anything because most have already said it, but I bet Zalenskyy predicted it to have stayed so calm. I felt like punching those two asses through the screen. It was infuriating watching that. Even if you voted for Trump, it's hard to say that was appropriate. To see those brown nosers hover around Trump and bully, is so embarrassing. It's completely second hand embarrassment to see these bums.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by devo22

I know a guy.

Spoiler!

He's the Hero we deserve...but he's also the Hero we need right now!

Because Scorch DGAF!!

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Geez, I know the thread is doom and gloom, and for good reason, but let's not lose our heads okay?

Who is losing their heads? Thinking free and fair elections are definitely happen at this point a lot of hope. And I get it, you live there, you don't want to believe you're not too far away from North Korea territory. But you are, sadly. Will it happen? The fact it's probability is closer to 50% than 0% says it all, doesn't it? Remember we're not even at 40 days and it's this grim. In another 100....#### you guys are screwed lol.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

There is no way in heil that Trump is turning up.

Of course he will show up. Anything for publicity.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

That's definitely not true. You're confusing electoral college results with the actual popular vote count.

Trump had 77,284,118 votes, or 49.8 percent of the votes.

Harris had 74,999,166 votes or 48.3 percent of the votes.

It's a difference of a little over 2 million votes in a country of 340 million, which is less than 1% of the total population (not total voting population, but still).

The idea that this man has an overwhelming majority of the population on his side or some sort of mandate from the people is bull####. He's losing support quickly and is probably only going to have total Republican control of the branches for 2 years until midterms. People are already pretty pissed with the results of his work. It's gonna be a bloodbath.

And if the popular vote actually mattered Harris would have won even bigger in Cali and NY

[Whynotnow]

What an absolute sham of an event that was, it was a setup to denigrate and minimize Zelysnky and continue to establish the necessary conditions within the US for a complete withdrawal of support and appeasement of Russia. Trump doesn’t care one bit about Ukraine, and clearly is holding a grudge from his first term.

Let’s start with the fact that Russian state media was there, I’m not sure what they are doing in the US, let alone the White House and even worse the Oval Office. This was no mistake and sends a very clear message to Russia.

Next we have the planted question about clothes, meant to humiliate him in front of the new king.

Now we move to the lecture by Vance on diplomacy. That’s like saying you should speak nicely to the lion eating your leg. His people are dead and wounded, he either sits there and takes that crap, thus ceding the ground in front of state media and for the public or he pushes back and gets the response he did.

In the end what changes?

Russia gets a stronger signal the US will capitulate in everything and the end is near.

The rest of the world gets an even deeper view to the unreliability of the US as a partner for the foreseeable future, and better start figuring it out. My one wish is that all foreign leaders stop visiting this idiot, he’s feeding off the world coming to him. Start to ignore him and isolate him, there’s no upside to the visit.

In the US nothing really changes, the right will move closer to achieving unity in abandoning Ukraine, Europe and becoming more isolationist. The left will get angrier, but can’t do anything. And I’ve lost all hope for independents actually doing much, they created this mess and they won’t suddenly turn, cause the economy or something.

This is what you get when a reality star deals with real world problems.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Who is losing their heads? Thinking free and fair elections are definitely happen at this point a lot of hope. And I get it, you live there, you don't want to believe you're not too far away from North Korea territory. But you are, sadly. Will it happen? The fact it's probability is closer to 50% than 0% says it all, doesn't it? Remember we're not even at 40 days and it's this grim. In another 100....#### you guys are screwed lol.

problem here is that the rest of the world gets shafted too. In times like these, the US being a reliable partner would be vital, yet we get this clown show while Vladimir is popping one bottle of champagne after another. ####ing grim.

[Senator Clay Davis]

And that's the sad part. If only Americans were suffering here then whatever, but we're all gonna pay.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

The idea that there won't be elections, or that there won't be a backlash from voters? America has a lot of problems right now, but one thing I'm very, very certain about is that nobody in the population would accept not being able to cast a vote.



Geez, I know the thread is doom and gloom, and for good reason, but let's not lose our heads okay?

Supposedly, 87 million Russians voted in 2024 and, supposedly, 76 million voted for Putin. That's what the republicans will be trying to do to the voting system in America.

[Mr.Coffee]

Cali, your country is lost. Time to wake up man. Like- time to panic. Wakey wakey- you guys are ####ed if you don’t act… like now…

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Obligatory lol at thinking there will be midterms, or that they will be fair. Kind of impressive to keep that kind of hope when everything else suggests otherwise.

I expect there will be clear and fair midterms in 2026. Why? Because it's becoming increasingly clear that to this White House Administration, Congress (and Judicial for that matter) don't really matter. They just do what they want, anyway and there doesn't seem to be any recourse.