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Old 02-13-2025, 03:04 PM   #21681
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Sure, but as we've seen with people, give 'em an inch...


I think sending a message you are going to be there soon crosses beyond clicking a screen for a destination or A/C. But the main point is, once you use your phone for one quick thing, you end up stretching that to other, less quick things until you become that person.
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I gave him a legit try but I hate Ben Mulroney as a talk-show just. He’s the worst since Danielle Smith.
He is stunningly bad. Should hang out with Shaye more, that guy understands how to balance the crazy callers and keep things rational.
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Old 02-13-2025, 03:11 PM   #21683
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He is stunningly bad. Should hang out with Shaye more, that guy understands how to balance the crazy callers and keep things rational.
I was a fan of Ganam but he has too many uninteresting guests. I prefer Courtney Thériault. Oddly, I have hung out with Shaye. Two years ago we traveled with him to see polar bears in Churchill.
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Sure, but as we've seen with people, give 'em an inch...


I think sending a message you are going to be there soon crosses beyond clicking a screen for a destination or A/C. But the main point is, once you use your phone for one quick thing, you end up stretching that to other, less quick things until you become that person.
But... does it? Touch-screens in modern vehicles are arguably just as bad for how much hunting around for stuff you have to do. Even with CarPlay and AA, those only handle navigation and audio, so you're still stuck using whatever lowest cost option the manufacturer was able to slap together for the rest of the vehicle's basic HVAC functions.
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Old 02-13-2025, 04:36 PM   #21685
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Jenna Bush makes Ben look like Carson.
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Old 02-13-2025, 06:32 PM   #21686
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I think work from home is amazing and a revelation but like everything it is going to be and is currently ruined by a smaller segment and it pisses me off.

My current company it’s bad because the outsourced IT with low budget the tempting in is absolutely terrible. Constantly logging in and connection issues and all the other not in the office crappiness.

The American bosses clearly not a fan, made it one day work from home which I think is reasonable as hell. Holy hell the hate from people with kids, now what do I do with childcare????

Isn’t working from home you work and not take care of toddlers? Self sufficient children sure, but toddlers??? I thought that was part of the deal, you can’t take care of toddlers and work unless your toddlers are veggies?

My short term disability rep at RBC is 100% of the time in the car with her kids when I call her and just wants me off the phone. I am asking how do I go back to work on an incremental schedule and she has dragged it on for weeks because she isn’t working. I’m getting $2500 a week tax free. It’s great for me. I could milk this until
June but I won’t. It’s ridiculous. Then our HR person is also working from home so nothing turns around in less than two days.

My neighbor works from home and golfs three days a week in the summer at Glencoe, totally has a system for it, his wife does too, yoga and hiking.

Tl;dr. Working from home is awesome but farrrrrr too many people are grossly abusing it and we are all gonna get fataed.
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Old 02-13-2025, 07:08 PM   #21687
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Tl;dr. Working from home is awesome but farrrrrr too many people are grossly abusing it and we are all gonna get fataed.
WFH has improved quality of life for every worker who does it. Primarily by eliminating commute time. For me, that's 2 hours that I just "get".

WFH has also irreversibly damaged work efficiency, and most "traditional office" companies doing it are doing far worse than they would be otherwise.

People with kids get to spend way more time with their kids. That's great! For everyone except their co-workers who need them.

I figure you're right. Sooner or later any company of size that used to be "onsite" is going to be back to being onsite because of people who couldn't be pros about it.
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Old 02-13-2025, 07:13 PM   #21688
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Sure, and shooting yourself in the arm is safer than in the head. It's still reckless and dumb.
I think we need to talk levels of risk.

Cell phone use while driving is similar in risk to drunk driving.

I don’t think cellphone use at lights would fall into that category of risk. So if you started robust enforcement at lights do thing you would move the probable to while driving enough that it would offset the modicum of savings for distracted at red lights.

In my opinion robust enforcement at red lights would increase use while not at red lights sufficiently to increase risk overall.

I think you need a way to enforce usage while moving.
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I think work from home is amazing and a revelation but like everything it is going to be and is currently ruined by a smaller segment and it pisses me off.

My current company it’s bad because the outsourced IT with low budget the tempting in is absolutely terrible. Constantly logging in and connection issues and all the other not in the office crappiness.

The American bosses clearly not a fan, made it one day work from home which I think is reasonable as hell. Holy hell the hate from people with kids, now what do I do with childcare????

Isn’t working from home you work and not take care of toddlers? Self sufficient children sure, but toddlers??? I thought that was part of the deal, you can’t take care of toddlers and work unless your toddlers are veggies?

My short term disability rep at RBC is 100% of the time in the car with her kids when I call her and just wants me off the phone. I am asking how do I go back to work on an incremental schedule and she has dragged it on for weeks because she isn’t working. I’m getting $2500 a week tax free. It’s great for me. I could milk this until
June but I won’t. It’s ridiculous. Then our HR person is also working from home so nothing turns around in less than two days.

My neighbor works from home and golfs three days a week in the summer at Glencoe, totally has a system for it, his wife does too, yoga and hiking.

Tl;dr. Working from home is awesome but farrrrrr too many people are grossly abusing it and we are all gonna get fataed.
It’s really a failure of middle management to hold people accountable but middle management is often poorly trained and poorly suited especially with technical roles where the skills that made you successful to be promoted aren’t the skills to manage people.
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Or middle management is also slacking / the biggest part of the WFH problem
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Yeah, it’s easy as #### to know who’s working and who isn’t unless the managers are also slacking. I was more productive than I’ve ever been working from home. As the lead, it was also super easy to know who wasn’t working. I worked with my boss to get rid of the do nothings.
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I think we need to talk levels of risk.

Cell phone use while driving is similar in risk to drunk driving.

I don’t think cellphone use at lights would fall into that category of risk. So if you started robust enforcement at lights do thing you would move the probable to while driving enough that it would offset the modicum of savings for distracted at red lights.

In my opinion robust enforcement at red lights would increase use while not at red lights sufficiently to increase risk overall.

I think you need a way to enforce usage while moving.
I disagree, I think the enforcement amount is high enough people would just stop doing it. You catch them at the lights because that's easy.
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Old 02-13-2025, 08:02 PM   #21693
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I disagree, I think the enforcement amount is high enough people would just stop doing it. You catch them at the lights because that's easy.
You have more faith in people than i do.

People don’t stop speeding because of speed on green. People just slow down at the intersections with them (that might actually be enough to improve safety though)
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I disagree, I think the enforcement amount is high enough people would just stop doing it. You catch them at the lights because that's easy.
Fuzz just found the $28 million, CPS! /s

GGG is right on this one; you try and nab people when they’re stopped at lights, you’re pushing that behaviour to in-traffic; you said it yourself, it’s easier to catch them at lights, and knowing CPS’ M.O. for traffic enforcement, they’ll focus only on that because it’s an easy money maker. But it’s also less effective in addressing the actual risk associated with using a cell phone while driving and if anything incentivizes doing it while on the move and away from traffic lights where one is far less likely to get caught.
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Old 02-14-2025, 12:14 AM   #21695
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Have it put down, dude. Pets are supposed to add to your life. If they aren't, ditch 'em. I've gotten rid of a ton of cats over the years. I feel nothing but relief whenever I do.

Seriously. Don't put up with another minute of this. Straight to the SPCA and then celebrate with some ice cream or a beer or something.
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Like I said before for whatever reason there doesn't seem to be much of an appetite to tackle this issue. Maybe they are but I'm certainly not seeing it and people certainly aren't behaving like they are worried about it anymore.
Police organizations are in the business of creating revenue to feed their budget to sustain themselves. You have $900k/mth in officers focusing on 10-20km's speeding over the limit that doesn't have much affect on safety generating millions in revenue or $900k/mth focusing on distracted driving that is waaay more difficult to find, ticket and most importantly hold up in court raking in a small fraction of speeding tickets and it's an easy choice for police agencies, regardless of what they say in the media about caring and going after things.

police are about revenue generating first and safety second as it's self sustaining, but they can't say the quiet part loud
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Old 02-14-2025, 08:37 AM   #21697
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WFH has improved quality of life for every worker who does it. Primarily by eliminating commute time. For me, that's 2 hours that I just "get".

WFH has also irreversibly damaged work efficiency, and most "traditional office" companies doing it are doing far worse than they would be otherwise.

People with kids get to spend way more time with their kids. That's great! For everyone except their co-workers who need them.

I figure you're right. Sooner or later any company of size that used to be "onsite" is going to be back to being onsite because of people who couldn't be pros about it.
Hasn't WFH also improved the quality of life for workers because they're just working less? For example, in fotzes, the guy is golfing three days a week and working from home. Of course, he loves working from home because that's not really work.
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Yeah, it’s easy as #### to know who’s working and who isn’t unless the managers are also slacking. I was more productive than I’ve ever been working from home. As the lead, it was also super easy to know who wasn’t working. I worked with my boss to get rid of the do nothings.
Those that dog fcuked when working in the office are the same people that dog fcuk when working at home.
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Those that dog fcuked when working in the office are the same people that dog fcuk when working at home.
Except they get away with even more dog fcuking at home.
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My favorite line from a co-worker during the pandemic. Well boys, first time I’ve masturbated at work. Not a guy we’d expect to hear that from.
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