Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[shotinthebacklund]

https://markcarney.ca/media/2025/01/...mer-carbon-tax


Mark Carneys plan for Climate action.

Promote fair competition and improve environmental outcomes by developing a Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism.
- This is his introduced carbon tariff. A plan to make any goods coming into the country that do not come from a ( Climate action) country EG. all of them. to be subject to a Carbon Tariff.

Have big polluters pay consumers to lower their carbon footprint by developing and integrating a new consumer carbon credit market with the industrial pricing system.By linking the consumer carbon market, we will improve market efficiency and maintain fiscal neutrality, while the government will ensure price certainty for consumers that supports investment.
- I bet they will love just paying the carbon tax for everyone. No way that makes it down to the consumer level right?

Improve subsidies for heat pumps to make home heating more affordable by strengthening the current oil-to-heat pump affordability program, allowing low- and middle-income households to save more on their home energy bills.

Introduce new consumer incentives to lower costs for families investing in our clean future, such as through home retrofits. We will enhance and recapitalize the Greener Homes Grant and improve the efficiency of the application process. These measures will be targeted to lower income households.
- If you have ever tried to use these programs, you will know he means spend 50k and we will maybe try and give you 1500 back (eg windows) Targeted to lower income households, well, hope you own your home or that rent is going up because its been upgraded.

Phase out the use of fossil fuels in federal government buildings by 2030 to reduce government energy bills.
Implement a taxonomy for every priority sector by fall 2026. As a key early priority, we will kickstart the development of clear, science-based criteria to identify those economic activities that are in “transition.” These guidelines will apply to activities in the electricity, transportation, buildings, agriculture and forestry, manufacturing, and extractives sectors
- Someone will need to explain what the goal is here for me. Whats the goal here? How does it apply to climate policy?

Mandate broad coverage of climate risk disclosure for companies across Canada. This will increase transparency for investors to better assess climate risks and opportunities and help align capital towards a sustainable economy. We will prioritize working with provincial, territorial, and international partners and ensure disclosure requirements align with international best practice.
This sounds like its play by our rules or else to me... To bad for any industries they dont agree with.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Life sentences for Fentanyl Kingpins! 43lbs smuggled into the US from Canada...

New 3 word slogan! PP is on it!!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poi...ence-1.7450915

Im personally finding this new Liberal stand on drugs interesting. Now its apparently a conservative detractor to worry about drugs on the streets?

Who gives a crap about what political party you vote for. Drugs on the streets are a huge issue. 2 MG is fatal!

https://www.dea.gov/resources/facts-about-fentanyl
Pull your head out of your partisan butt and look at the real issues here.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

Im personally finding this new Liberal stand on drugs interesting. Now its apparently a conservative detractor to worry about drugs on the streets?

Who gives a crap about what political party you vote for. Drugs on the streets are a huge issue. 2 MG is fatal!

https://www.dea.gov/resources/facts-about-fentanyl
Pull your head out of your partisan butt and look at the real issues here.

Speaking about partisan butts... hahaha

For sure it's a huge problem. Why didn't he start his campaigning with this instead of Cut the Tax? because the moron didn't clue in until the orange moron brought it up.

Hey when Harper had a majority govt i was hoping he would crack down on crime and put in longer sentences. Our laws are so laxed it is the best place on the earth to committ crimes. But the Cons diden't.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Speaking about partisan butts... hahaha

For sure it's a huge problem. Why didn't he start his campaigning with this instead of Cut the Tax? because the moron didn't clue in until the orange moron brought it up.

Hey when Harper had a majority govt i was hoping he would crack down on crime and put in longer sentences. Our laws are so laxed it is the best place on the earth to committ crimes. But the Cons diden't.

Its been part of PP's talking point for months. This is not a new subject for him.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

Im personally finding this new Liberal stand on drugs interesting. Now its apparently a conservative detractor to worry about drugs on the streets?

Who gives a crap about what political party you vote for. Drugs on the streets are a huge issue. 2 MG is fatal!

https://www.dea.gov/resources/facts-about-fentanyl
Pull your head out of your partisan butt and look at the real issues here.

As a big L Liberal. I support drugs.

They won the First War on Drugs; i suspect they will win WOD II

It's anyones game during the Cold Spoon War though.

[Firebot]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/arti...-break-ad-buy/

Liberal government ends its own imposed ban on Meta advertising to promote a Liberal government handout. The ban was a result of the whole Online News Act fiasco which resulted in the removal of real news on social media platforms like Facebook and Instagram, and apparently reminding us of the GST rebate was worth bypassing its own ban and giving money to Meta.

In the end, despite a lot of good will being given as a result of Trudeau's stance against Trump, Liberals gotta Liberals and need to remind us why they got so unpopular.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

Its been part of PP's talking point for months. This is not a new subject for him.

hmmm yeah prob not. Unless it got in his word salad where every 3rd word was Trudeau.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

hmmm yeah prob not. Unless it got in his word salad where every 3rd word was Trudeau.

Go to his youtube page and in the search bar for the channel type Drugs-

https://www.youtube.com/@PierrePoili...ch?query=drugs

There are dozens of videos going back years. Or ignore it and you do you. I dont care.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

Go to his youtube page and in the search bar for the channel type Drugs-

https://www.youtube.com/@PierrePoili...ch?query=drugs

There are dozens of videos going back years. Or ignore it and you do you. I dont care.

hahaha you follow that kyit? 2 of the first 'videos' are saying that Trudeau will decriminalize hard drugs including fentanyl... hahaha

Only a brainwashed muppet would believe these shock headlines. Are you a Johnny Somali fan? lol

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

hahaha you follow that kyit? 2 of the first 'videos' are saying that Trudeau will decriminalize hard drugs including fentanyl... hahaha

Only a brainwashed muppet would believe these shock headlines. Are you a Johnny Somali fan? lol

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/o...riminalization


How the Health Canada Exemption works

Health Canada granted the province of B.C. a three-year exemption under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act to decriminalize people who use drugs, which came into effect January 31, 2023.
Under the exemption, possessing small amounts of certain illicit drugs for personal use in specific locations is allowed.
In these locations, adults 18 and older will not be arrested, charged or have drugs seized for possessing small amounts of certain illicit drugs for personal use. Instead, people will be offered health information and referred to treatment and supports if requested.
Locations:

• Private residences
• Places unhoused individuals are legally sheltering (indoor and outdoor locations)
• Overdose prevention, drug checking and supervised consumption sites
• Places that provide out-patient addiction services like rapid access addiction clinics

Illicit drugs covered under the exemption (up to 2.5 grams combined):

• Opioids (such as heroin, morphine and fentanyl)
• Crack and powder cocaine 
• Methamphetamine (meth)
• MDMA (ecstasy)

[Johnny Makarov]

hahahhahaha ....in BC

Check out the National Inquirer headlines the moron put out!

Trudeau decriminalized hard drugs in Canada

Trudeau will legalize hard drugs if he is re-elected.

are you that gullible? hmmm i guess you are since you follow Pierre the Pomeranian on youtube.

[Drak]

I hope we're amping up our military defense.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Throwing this against the wall. Is it possible as a result of this the Liberal party moves to the right somewhat, maybe even dead centre in terms of how they might manage the economy going forward? This is a huge wake up call and I wonder if (Liberal) voters are going to be united against the past Liberal agenda/priorities?

Is it possible we might even see cooperation between the Libs and CPC should either win a minority government?

The Liberals would have had to move left for their to be a need to move right. The LPC is still a staunchly centre to centre-left party.

Ever since Jack Layton moved the NDP closer to the centre, Canada hasn't had a true leftist party.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

hahahhahaha ....in BC

Check out the National Inquirer headlines the moron put out!

Trudeau decriminalized hard drugs in Canada

Trudeau will legalize hard drugs if he is re-elected.

are you that gullible? hmmm i guess you are since you follow Pierre the Pomeranian on youtube.

Oh I did not realize BC is no longer part of Canada. I dont know how I missed that. Must have been watching too many PP videos. My mistake.

They want to expand the safe supply program across Canada btw. A program that has a huge amount of Diversion of intended users.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by rubecube

The Liberals would have had to move left for their to be a need to move right. The LPC is still a staunchly centre to centre-left party.

Ever since Jack Layton moved the NDP closer to the centre, Canada hasn't had a true leftist party.

Chrétien party was considered Centrist/ Centre left. The liberal party of today is not that same party, as the Former PM just said a few weeks ago.



"It is a fundamental condition for the party to come back to be the radical centre, as I used to say, because it is what has been the Liberal party all along," Chretien said in an exclusive interview with CTV Question Period airing Sunday.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

Oh I did not realize BC is no longer part of Canada. I dont know how I missed that. Must have been watching too many PP videos. My mistake.

They want to expand the safe supply program across Canada btw. A program that has a huge amount of Diversion of intended users.

You realize the diversion of safer supply drugs means that people are buying them on the street and likely doing less fentanyl as a result, right?

Diversion is also primarily linked to a variety of issues, such as access to health care. The idea that these drugs entering street markets is solely due to criminal elements, and increases the amount of people who are taking unsafe drugs is absurd.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

Chrétien party was considered Centrist/ Centre left. The liberal party of today is not that same party, as the Former PM just said a few weeks ago.

"It is a fundamental condition for the party to come back to be the radical centre, as I used to say, because it is what has been the Liberal party all along," Chretien said in an exclusive interview with CTV Question Period airing Sunday.

Neoliberalism has always been to the centre or centre-right of the political spectrum, and the LPC is ostensibly a neoliberal party.

They have a penchant for veering too far into identity politics at times, but other than certain social issues, they're closer to the centre or centre-right than they are to the left.

They still support mostly free-market solutions to most economic issues, private extraction of resources, lower corporate taxes, etc., etc. The only times they've really moved left on really any economic issues is when they've been forced to as a result of being in a minority government.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

Chrétien party was considered Centrist/ Centre left. The liberal party of today is not that same party, as the Former PM just said a few weeks ago.



"It is a fundamental condition for the party to come back to be the radical centre, as I used to say, because it is what has been the Liberal party all along," Chretien said in an exclusive interview with CTV Question Period airing Sunday.

Chretien was definitely not Centre Left. He was a Centrist on social issues and Centre-right when to came to economic policy, especially so with Paul Martin.

He sold off Crown Corporations, slashed budgets, shrank military spending, reduced government staff levels and implemented many of the neoliberal policies infecting the world at the time. Part of the reason for the collapse of the PC party and the rise of the Reform is that Chretien occupied the place that the PCs would normally hold sway and pushed conservatives Right into the arms of the Reform/Alliance party.

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by rubecube

You realize the diversion of safer supply drugs means that people are buying them on the street and likely doing less fentanyl as a result, right?

Diversion is also primarily linked to a variety of issues, such as access to health care. The idea that these drugs entering street markets is solely due to criminal elements, and increases the amount of people who are taking unsafe drugs is absurd.

I am familiar with the program as well as what are the perceived benefits of the program. Fentanyl is one of the drugs being provided under safe supply. Diversion just means people are attaining the safe supply drugs and then selling them to their "clients". The concept is they should still be "clean" drugs.. There is a whole ring involved of mules getting them then having to turn them into their dealers. I understand some may see the program as a net benefit, I absolutely do not.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

"It is a fundamental condition for the party to come back to be the radical centre, as I used to say, because it is what has been the Liberal party all along," Chretien said in an exclusive interview with CTV Question Period airing Sunday.

I think use of the term “radical centre” is just about the greatest illustration of how absurd using left/right/centre to describe political views really is.

How about we focus less on radical views and more on rational ones?

Seriously, wtf is radical centre supposed to even mean?