It doesn't matter because it wouldn't happen, but Canada is not governable as a single entity in that fashion. 10 Provinces larger don't become 1 state, even if this were a conversations that's not the way the math works.
If we became 10 or 13 states we’d have 20 or 26 senate seats, the majority of which would be blue. And we’d likely have the same total number of EC votes (assuming they relatively distributed by population), in fact might gain some given how tiny PEI is. So if one 51st state would be bad for the republicans adding 51-60 or 63 would be worse.
The border stuff makes me laugh. I always have more trouble coming back from the US with the Canadian Border officials, than I do with the US Border officials when entering the States.
They seem to scrutinize ground travelers far more than air travelers. Fly.
If we became 10 or 13 states we’d have 20 or 26 senate seats, the majority of which would be blue. And we’d likely have the same total number of EC votes (assuming they relatively distributed by population), in fact might gain some given how tiny PEI is. So if one 51st state would be bad for the republicans adding 51-60 or 63 would be worse.
They'd carve out areas of BC/AB/SK to be separate states and mitigate the problem. But it isn't happening in my lifetime so I don't know why I'm talking about it.
What did he get? The stuff Trudeau committed to will benefit Canadians almost exclusively.
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There are no real concessions by Canada here. What he really got was (a) a surge in popularity for the Liberals in Canada, (b) a spanking by the markets, (c) the reality of his idiocy bared for a while. This was a blow to his image.
Thats not the point.
Nobody gives you a 30 day 'reprieve' for giving up essentially nothing. This is 'Round 1' and he's letting Canada think they won it.
At the same time he can turn around and claim to be magnanimous with his allies.
But its only 30 days.
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There are no real concessions by Canada here. What he really got was (a) a surge in popularity for the Liberals in Canada, (b) a spanking by the markets, (c) the reality of his idiocy bared for a while. This was a blow to his image.
Lol the markets hardly moved. As I said yesterday, this was telegraphed in November. S&P was -0.9% at the worst before the Mexican news? That happens frequently.
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Thats not the point.
Nobody gives you a 30 day 'reprieve' for giving up essentially nothing. This is 'Round 1' and he's letting Canada think they won it.
At the same time he can turn around and claim to be magnanimous with his allies.
But its only 30 days.
How he acts and what he says is immaterial. All that matters is what happens. Next time it comes around we will only have 3 years and 10 months left. So we killed about 2% of his term with this. That's not nothing.
It's funny because if that happened, Alberta would be ruled by Ontario for the most part. States have a lot more domestic power than provinces. So if it was one state, the governor would be elected by the whole of Canada - no Danielle, and the stae leg would be dominated by the east.
Another thing, I don't know why a lot of people don't discuss that in the news, that the idea of taking over Canada probably involves an actual war, like actually 10s of thousands of people, if not millions, dying. The idea of taking over a country is not a business transaction that people just sit at home, roll over, and say "oh, I guess I am American now, uh, where do I change my driver's license?". People are going to wage a physical war and it would be chaotic considering how big the countries are. Loss of life and infrastructure would be massive and US would never let Trump do it.
Any other leader of a country saying such a thing is a threat of military confrontation.
It's somewhere between a fentanyl shogun and a fentanyl maharaja but the key differentiating point is it is highly attuned in its programmed sensitivity to orange bull####
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That’s what I’m hoping. Canada is his current weird obsession, so of course that’s all he’s been blathering about. Here’s hoping he’ll just move on to something else over the next 30 days and he ends up forgetting about us.
Alberta should do the same and work with other provinces to divert oil away from the US (with the country renewing talks of Energy East in the longer term).
Saskatchewan should diversify and plan to divert potash away from the US.
I don't see any of this stopping while Trump continues to 'delay' yet continue to threaten tariffs, leaving our economy in turmoil if we don't move to a more stable partner. He struck a cord that most Canadians do not like and threats of annexation should not be taken lightly. There is no going back here in my view.
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Another thing, I don't know why a lot of people don't discuss that in the news, that the idea of taking over Canada probably involves an actual war, like actually 10s of thousands of people, if not millions, dying. The idea of taking over a country is not a business transaction that people just sit at home, roll over, and say "oh, I guess I am American now, uh, where do I change my driver's license?". People are going to wage a physical war and it would be chaotic considering how big the countries are. Loss of life and infrastructure would be massive and US would never let Trump do it.
Any other leader of a country saying such a thing is a threat of military confrontation.
I have been tempted to start a thread on that but was wary of how people would respond.
Personally, I'm going to get a PAL, get some training, and have legitimate questions about what the onboarding process for the reserves looks like. There are some interesting positions with Calgary-based units. If there are any reservists here, please PM me if you're willing to chat.
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