The Tariff Thread

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Slava

Yeah, I had a lot to get done in a very short timeframe and with things changing the whole time.



I laughed at "accepting the circumstances" because this is the same stuff they already announced with the addition of the fentanyl czar. Also, I'd like to be the fentanyl czar and that's a great title!

Seriously where do we apply to be the fentanyl czar?

I'd like to put that on my linkedin.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Seriously where do we apply to be the fentanyl czar?

I'd like to put that on my linkedin.

Hey! Back off! That job is mine!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Suit yourself. I'm not a huge fan of the way China conducts itself but the reality is they can supply products I want at a cost I want, so I buy them. If you don't want to take advantage of trade you're only hurting yourself.

With respect to your point on infrastructure, though, I totally agree.

You know it's OK to have principles, right? Like, I assume you wouldn't buy hot dogs from the guy setting your house on fire every night. It just sounds like your principles are soft enough that you have decided it is worth stamping out brush fires occasionally, as long as you get some cheap #### you'll throw out in 6 months. Your call.

[Cowboy89]

Tariffs on hold for 30 days

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...nada-trade-war

Canada has agreed to deploy its $1.3 border plan and nearly 10,000 frontline personnel on the border it shares with the United States.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Rope-A-Dope

[tony-soprano]

December 17, 2024 lol.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safe...on-system.html

[dino7c]

Shocker, Trump was full of #### and now will say he won

[Jiggy]

Joke is on trump, wait until Chrystia Freeland is named Fentanyl Czar.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Shocker, Trump was full of #### and now will say he won

That's basically Trump 101. How Trump has lived his entire life.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Hopefully this is a reminder moving forward that we need pipelines like energy east, TMX and other markets for business to ensure we have our own access that is not fully dependent on the U.S.

Someone once told me that Energy East is dead in the water because it is in violation of NATO and certain international laws. He also said that Asian markets is fine.

The reason being is that if Energy East goes through, in theory Canada has the ability to be energy independent for the entire country. That means that NATO tools such as embargoes will be a lot less effective against Canada in the event of war. Although perhaps the belief is that Canada isn't of major concern for energy independence due to our military size vs borders and proximity to USA, it isn't a great precedence to have any country as energy independent. Other potentially troublesome countries will point fingers at Canada as an example why they too should be allowed to be energy independent.

I do not know the validity to this claim and I'm not going to research NATO/international law to confirm it. But the logic of what he was describing makes sense to the point I doubt he's making it up. I also do not know if this energy independence is a rule being followed by the USA. If Trump does decide to scrap that rule, I'm not against immediately citing them as an example for why we should be allowed to do Energy East.

The same individual said that Energy Asia is fine or USA is fine because it doesn't create a potential energy independence for the entire country situation. Canada can create more pipelines to send the energy wherever we want, Canada apparently just can't allow the Western and Eastern side of the country to link up and make it easy to transfer energy from one side of the country to the other.

[Muta]

Perfect opportunity for Canada to now start making a) more trade agreements behind the scenes with the EU, Asia, Australia and New Zealand, and South America, and b) have a national dialogue again on pipeline development within our own borders, hopefully in our united hatred for the orange #### gibbon and his band of zombie tech-bootlickers.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Muta

Perfect opportunity for Canada to now start making a) more trade agreements behind the scenes with the EU, Asia, Australia and New Zealand, and South America, and b) have a national dialogue again on pipeline development within our own borders, hopefully in our united hatred for the orange #### gibbon.

Can we unify as a country towards common goals? I’d love to see it but that’s a big ask considering the last 10 years of infighting.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by tony-soprano

December 17, 2024 lol.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safe...on-system.html

I don't see Fentanyl Czar there.

Trump: Checkmate

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You know it's OK to have principles, right? Like, I assume you wouldn't buy hot dogs from the guy setting your house on fire every night. It just sounds like your principles are soft enough that you have decided it is worth stamping out brush fires occasionally, as long as you get some cheap #### you'll throw out in 6 months. Your call.

It's absolutely okay. If there was a guy doing that, well, he'd be in jail instead of selling hot dogs and that's the purpose of insurance. Not to mindlessly pay premiums and look at a piece of paper.

It's not all trash that they sell. I have a heater I bought in 2015 that still works. A cosmetic bag that's around 2019ish, no issue. A stylish floor lamp I got at Home Depot last year (more than six months ago). Even a replacement screen for my car, which is kind of weird since I guess their AM stations work in 9 kHz increments and ours are in 10, but it works fine. The very computer I'm using to type this is Chinese and around 7 years old. Sure, if you buy a 50-cent trinket I doubt anyone expects that to last long.

[CaptainCrunch]

With the 200 million in additional spending, the need to speed up hiring and procurement, the hiring of a senior cop as the Czar, and the establishment of a cross border action group on cartels and Fentanyl, Parliament needs to be recalled and soon.



I'm interested in who hold jurisdiction with the strike group. Are we going to have DEA agents attached to the RCMP for example?


We don't have much time to get this stuff done. 30 days is not a lot of time.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Locke

So far? Looking accurate.

Mexico and Canada both got last minute 'Tariff stays of execution' but for a limited time only!

And when that time limit is up....Drumpf will Blackmail us for something else!!

Wow. Who could have seen this coming?

It's all part of making a puppet state.

It's much more economically beneficial to just bullying a country to adopt policies you want than actually making them a state or territory. All the benefits of having a territory without the burden and complication of actually bringing million of people into the body politic.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Muta

Perfect opportunity for Canada to now start making a) more trade agreements behind the scenes with the EU, Asia, Australia and New Zealand, and South America, and b) have a national dialogue again on pipeline development within our own borders, hopefully in our united hatred for the orange #### gibbon and his band of zombie tech-bootlickers.

That energy corridor needs to absolutely happen and fast, and if Quebec raises a stink which they will, then they have to be pushed into accepting it if that means the government appropriates the land.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

With the 200 million in additional spending, the need to speed up hiring and procurement, the hiring of a senior cop as the Czar, and the establishment of a cross border action group on cartels and Fentanyl, Parliament needs to be recalled and soon.



I'm interested in who hold jurisdiction with the strike group. Are we going to have DEA agents attached to the RCMP for example?


We don't have much time to get this stuff done. 30 days is not a lot of time.

They'll call an election before Mark Carney has a coronation.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

Someone once told me that Energy East is dead in the water because it is in violation of NATO and certain international laws. He also said that Asian markets is fine.

The reason being is that if Energy East goes through, in theory Canada has the ability to be energy independent for the entire country. That means that NATO tools such as embargoes will be a lot less effective against Canada in the event of war. Although perhaps the belief is that Canada isn't of major concern for energy independence due to our military size vs borders and proximity to USA, it isn't a great precedence to have any country as energy independent. Other potentially troublesome countries will point fingers at Canada as an example why they too should be allowed to be energy independent.

I do not know the validity to this claim and I'm not going to research NATO/international law to confirm it. But the logic of what he was describing makes sense to the point I doubt he's making it up. I also do not know if this energy independence is a rule being followed by the USA. If Trump does decide to scrap that rule, I'm not against immediately citing them as an example for why we should be allowed to do Energy East.

The same individual said that Energy Asia is fine or USA is fine because it doesn't create a potential energy independence for the entire country situation. Canada can create more pipelines to send the energy wherever we want, Canada apparently just can't allow the Western and Eastern side of the country to link up and make it easy to transfer energy from one side of the country to the other.

That sounds entirely made up and nonsensical.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Firebot

I don't see Fentanyl Czar there.

Trump: Checkmate

It’s so funny watching people (not you, to be clear) act like this was all part of Trump’s plan. The reality is that the blowback was predictably immense on both sides of the border, something that will have negative ripple effects for the American economy for many, many years to come.

He bluffed his way to an extra $200M in commitments and some extra job titles, and all it cost him was the relationship with his country’s greatest trading partner.

Yuge win for the master manipulator.