The Tariff Thread

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Slava

No, you absolutely curtail production. It's not made up by OPEC because they need heavy oil and it's the Midwest that needs this. They can get that from Venezuela or Iraq, but let them figure that out. He gave us the opening and showed that he's vulnerable with energy, so you hit them where it hurts to stay in the game longer term.

I have to plead ignorance on this one; I don't know anything about various grades of oil, if that's even the correct term.

[FlameyMcFlameFace]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

This.

Threaten to boycott certain resources as a negotiating tactic.

Don't follow Trump down the stupid slide and implement Canadian Tariffs. That's what will truly hurt the average Canadian.

Part of me thinks that sick #### wants to make it worse for Canadians under the guise of "fighting back", because surely our own PM must know how tariffs work.

At least I think he does...

I am curious about the other perspective to this. So you would think a boycott to American products/resources is the path to take vs tariffs? Such as American liquors? or various other products. I'm just curious and intrigued about all perspectives.

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Seems obvious to me but it should go Alberta fully supports it if it means we get pipelines in place. Done problem solved.

I was about to say this. Might be good long term for Alberta to agree to go along with tariffs on energy in exchange for all the provinces agreeing to allow the Feds (with or without private partners) to build 2-3 more pipelines to get less reliant on the US, funded by the tariff money.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Trump voting nutjobs should not be allowed in this thread. My husband is quite a nice fellow.

This was actually a very reasonable 6 pages worth of discussions until you pulled in with your ####ing nonsense and useless garbage as the biggest POS contributor on CP.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

She is a California Trump Voter.... hhahaha. Takes guts to vote for an orange rapist in that state.

What kind of useful advice can she offer to us other than to suck it up and pay the tariffs!

You understand that American importers are responsible for paying the tariffs, right? Probably not.

I've already made it public that I voted for Chase Oliver, Joe Kerr, and Adam Schiff.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1885741722828685666

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by RogerWilco

Many seem to be focusing on these tariffs on Canada hurting Canada more that the US. But everyone seems to forget that Trump is placing tariffs on multiple countries, meaning they are going to get hit back by multiple sides.

No one will suffer from Trump's tariffs more than Americans. Especially since it's being placed on all of their biggest/most direct trade partners.

Trump supporters literally think customs agents will be walking up to the Canadian government with collection jars but those collections are coming at the expense of American companies who must adjust costs to accommodate those fees.

I wonder how he plans to claim that he "reversed inflation" when everything imported (which is a lot) skyrockets in price.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

She is a California Trump Voter.... hhahaha. Takes guts to vote for an orange rapist in that state.

What kind of useful advice can she offer to us other than to suck it up and pay the tariffs!

Trumpers shouldn’t be allowed here. They’ve declared themselves our enemy. They are trying to harm us. Fk these clowns.

[FlameyMcFlameFace]

Originally Posted by butterfly

You understand that American importers are responsible for paying the tariffs, right? Probably not.

I've already made it public that I voted for Chase Oliver, Joe Kerr, and Adam Schiff.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1885741722828685666

I'm not going at you, Butterfly, I simply want to pick your brain for a moment as it seems you are the other perspective.

What is your stance on what the Canadian government should do in response to these tariffs? If may, can I ask why?

Im just trying to truly understand everyones perspective.

[Slava]

haha, I just read that part of this is that they removed the "de minimis" exemption for small packages. So say you send a gift to someone in the US...they have to pay the tariff of 25% on that!

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

This was actually a very reasonable 6 pages worth of discussions until you pulled in with your ####ing nonsense and useless garbage as the biggest POS contributor on CP.

https://www.polltab.com/bracket-poll/M40PBhc-NcXRZ

Technically they’re the runner up lol

[calgarybornnraised]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Sorry, I prefer to avoid arguments with Pravda scribes. Let me know if you stop beating your wife.

How flipping classless. Accusing someone of beating their wife should be an auto ban. JFC.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by calgarybornnraised

How flipping classless. Accusing someone of beating their wife should be an auto ban. JFC.

They're not actually saying that .

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by FlameyMcFlameFace

I'm not going at you, Butterfly, I simply want to pick your brain for a moment as it seems you are the other perspective.

What is your stance on what the Canadian government should do in response to these tariffs? If may, can I ask why?

Im just trying to truly understand everyones perspective.

Sure, happy to oblige. I think the Canadian government has a duty to do the best thing for Canadian citizens, which is to not harm them. If I were them I would do nothing.

Trump doing this to our three biggest trade partners simply hurts American consumers. Why would you want to raise prices for your own consumers? It's senseless and leads to an inefficient allocation of resources. Chinese, Mexicans, and Canadians can bring unique goods and services to market at a better price than Americans can, and they're all things that we desire. Trump is lying when he claims "we don't need them", because if we could get these things for cheaper we would already be doing it.

So if they're happy to trade with us, why not do it? It really should have nothing to do with the government as it's obvious interference between parties willing to trade.

If I were Canada I certainly would not want to increase prices on my own consumers in an attempt to demonstrate some false sense of strength.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

https://www.polltab.com/bracket-poll/M40PBhc-NcXRZ

Technically they’re the runner up lol

Small technicality, that was for annoying not ####tiest poster.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by calgarybornnraised

How flipping classless. Accusing someone of beating their wife should be an auto ban. JFC.

It's a demonstration of how difficult it is to disprove a false claim.

"You're an Oiler fan and Trump supporter" when neither are true is the same thing. Salem witch trials.

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Sure, happy to oblige. I think the Canadian government has a duty to do the best thing for Canadian citizens, which is to not harm them. If I were them I would do nothing.

Trump doing this to our three biggest trade partners simply hurts American consumers. Why would you want to raise prices for your own consumers? It's senseless and leads to an inefficient allocation of resources. Chinese, Mexicans, and Canadians can bring unique goods and services to market at a better price than Americans can, and they're all things that we desire. Trump is lying when he claims "we don't need them", because if we could get these things for cheaper we would already be doing it.

So if they're happy to trade with us, why not do it? It really should have nothing to do with the government as it's obvious interference between parties willing to trade.

If I were Canada I certainly would not want to increase prices on my own consumers in an attempt to demonstrate some false sense of strength.

The Canadian government would implement Tariffs only on items that are luxuries that can be easily replaced. Like we can drink local whiskey rather than a bourbon that comes from a red state, ect. This isn't a false sense of power, this strategy has worked in the past. Here is the thing, Americans seem to think they are immune to everything until they find out. Its a pattern.

[PepsiFree]

There are actual Canadian MAGAs/Trump supporters on here that are turning around and frothing at the mouth to blame Canada for the leopard eating their face that I’m not sure we have to go and accuse people like butterfly of being one of them.

[Leondros]

I wonder what the chances are that Trudeau uses this opportunity to declare a state of economic emergency and defer the election to 2026…

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by Leondros

I wonder what the chances are that Trudeau uses this opportunity to declare a state of economic emergency and defer the election to 2026…

Zero

[Leondros]

Originally Posted by RogerWilco

Zero

It’s certainly not zero…