American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Speaking of patrolling Blackhawk Helicopters:

An American Airlines regional jet went down in the Potomac River near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport after colliding with a U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopter, Wednesday night, prompting a multi-agency search-and-rescue operation, according to officials.

Being discussed in the Aviation thread if you're looking for updates.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

It’s not our job to secure his ****ing border.

No, but we shouldn’t have drug producers / importers or unaccounted for immigrants in the country in the first place. The fact that they get through the border is mostly the US’ issue, but that they are around and able to get to the border is ours. We ought to be beefing up law enforcement and immigration controls moreso than sending helicopters to the border.

The overall issue is comparatively tiny compared to Mexico but it’s still an issue.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Being discussed in the Aviation thread if you're looking for updates.

Thanks, I added this to make it relevant

Trump Guts Key Aviation Safety Committee, Fires Heads Of TSA, Coast Guard, Hiring freeze on air traffic controllers...not sure if they were a factor here but shows how short sighted gutting these agencies is.

Hiring freeze on air traffic controllers is insane but Trump does so much dumb #### it was barely noticed...I think it will be noticed now. Trump can go to LA and blame the democrats for fires, I hope he is ready for some backlash. Last major US airliner accident was like 16 years ago...one week of Trump cutting airline safety agencies.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I haven’t been this worried about the country since Trudeau was elected.

Thinking we are in for a very rough few years. Would not be surprised to see record declines in GDP and the C$. And that’s assuming PP wins a majority.

Here’s hoping Trump pulls back on tariffs and Singh follows through on his promise.

Ya I’m dreaming.

Imagine being more worried about Trudeau than a psychopathic rapist being leader of a superpower next door.

Absolutely bizarre.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by AFireInside

Imagine being more worried about Trudeau than a psychopathic rapist being leader of a superpower next door.

Absolutely bizarre.

What I meant was I was really worried about the direction of the country, mainly economically, when Trudeau first came to power, but am really concerned now with Trump and his tariff threat.

Not sure how you interpreted my post otherwise, but whatever.

[Locke]

[dino7c]

Quote from the Clown on Truth social while bodies are being pulled from the water:

“The airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport. The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time. It is a CLEAR NIGHT, the lights on the plane were blazing, why didn’t the helicopter go up or down, or turn. Why didn’t the control tower tell the helicopter what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane,” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform.

“This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. NOT GOOD!!!” the president continued.

It was not immediately clear whether Trump’s post was based on information on which he had been officially briefed. CNN is reaching out to the White House.

Days after he implemented a hiring freeze on air traffic controllers no less

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Quote from the Clown on Truth social while bodies are being pulled from the water:

“The airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport. The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time. It is a CLEAR NIGHT, the lights on the plane were blazing, why didn’t the helicopter go up or down, or turn. Why didn’t the control tower tell the helicopter what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane,” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform.

“This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. NOT GOOD!!!” the president continued.

It was not immediately clear whether Trump’s post was based on information on which he had been officially briefed. CNN is reaching out to the White House.

Days after he implemented a hiring freeze on air traffic controllers no less

One of the most stressful and high importance jobs there are… everyone on shift must be devastated and are going to need help… and the ####ing president instantly bad mouths them. Insanity.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I haven’t been this worried about the country since Trudeau was elected.

Thinking we are in for a very rough few years. Would not be surprised to see record declines in GDP and the C$. And that’s assuming PP wins a majority.

Here’s hoping Trump pulls back on tariffs and Singh follows through on his promise.

Ya I’m dreaming.

Yeah conservative governments are often poor financial stewards

[puffnstuff]

New Zealand tried this recipe in October 2023 when a right-wing government#swept to power#on a similar wave of populist anger. The results so far? Government debt is#now forecast to be higher. The deficit is#getting worse, and#GDP has fallen#at its fastest rate since 1991. Unemployment is#increasing rapidly, particularly among#young people.

The big winners have been higher-income earners who benefited disproportionately from tax cuts, and landlords.

https://www.thetyee.ca/Analysis/2025...e-New-Zealand/

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I haven’t been this worried about the country since Trudeau was elected.

Thinking we are in for a very rough few years. Would not be surprised to see record declines in GDP and the C$. And that’s assuming PP wins a majority.

Here’s hoping Trump pulls back on tariffs and Singh follows through on his promise.

Ya I’m dreaming.

Trudeau is leaving a huge #### sandwich for the next party or whomever ends up being the next Liberal leader. We've already got a dropping Canadian dollar, productivity and housing crisis, and a GDP that's only propped up by fake degree mills via his 100 million Century Initiative. It'll take years just to start to try to clean up this mess.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

New Zealand tried this recipe in October 2023 when a right-wing government#swept to power#on a similar wave of populist anger. The results so far? Government debt is#now forecast to be higher. The deficit is#getting worse, and#GDP has fallen#at its fastest rate since 1991. Unemployment is#increasing rapidly, particularly among#young people.

The big winners have been higher-income earners who benefited disproportionately from tax cuts, and landlords.

https://www.thetyee.ca/Analysis/2025...e-New-Zealand/

That's shocking. And by shocking I mean completely expected. Can't wait until that's us when PP is PM.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

What’s the downside if it means saving our economy (I mean avoiding tariffs)?

The downside is that there is no reasonable way for the Canadian government to secure the American government's border. So we are in a lose/lose.

We could develop a system often employed by communist dictatorships that don't allow people to leave without special and explicit permission by the upper echelon of the government offices. Then the government packs your bags for you and escorts you over the border and monitors your movement in the US.

Or every single border crossing is closed and every flight cancelled.

Like I said, there is no reasonable way.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

One of the most stressful and high importance jobs there are… everyone on shift must be devastated and are going to need help… and the ####ing president instantly bad mouths them. Insanity.

we can expect 4 years of the president very inappropriately "dunking" on people. It's the new normal.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Black Hawk helicopters are monitoring the border as we speak.

Maybe not literally as we speak, but basically yes, we have them and are now using them to appease the US (their main purpose is to stop people coming in from the US border, of course).

Thanks see that at least one was just deployed. I also read Smith is telling Trudeau to put a General in charge of the border. I think it's a great idea.

We really need to shape hearts and minds here. Deploying the military to the border effective or not would be a show of force that may head off the tariffs. Cost wise it probably would be way cheaper than a head on fight. Seems like a no brainer.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

Thanks see that at least one was just deployed. I also read Smith is telling Trudeau to put a General in charge of the border. I think it's a great idea.

We really need to shape hearts and minds here. Deploying the military to the border effective or not would be a show of force that may head off the tariffs. Cost wise it probably would be way cheaper than a head on fight. Seems like a no brainer.

Impossible.

The military doesn't have the operational capacity.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

Thanks see that at least one was just deployed. I also read Smith is telling Trudeau to put a General in charge of the border. I think it's a great idea.

We really need to shape hearts and minds here. Deploying the military to the border effective or not would be a show of force that may head off the tariffs. Cost wise it probably would be way cheaper than a head on fight. Seems like a no brainer.

Someone who valued Canadian independence may suggest that allowing a foreign leader to directly order and dictate Canadian actions and policy might be not good. But that's just me.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Impossible.

The military doesn't have the operational capacity.

Trump doesn't need to know that. We need a Potemkin style border protection facade with empty shipping containers labelled like "fentanyl detector 7000" and "migrant macerator 1500."

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Trump doesn't need to know that. We need a Potemkin style border protection facade with empty shipping containers labelled like "fentanyl detector 7000" and "migrant macerator 1500."

Trudeau can just phone Trump "Mr President, we caught Glen. Glen has been the rascal smuggling all the fentanyl, but we got 'em. Nothing more to worry about"

[WideReceiver]

Busted!
Kash Patel denied knowing Stew Peters. Then he was reminded of his eight appearances on his podcast.
Haha