2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Vinny01]

While the price to acquire him was way too high by giving up beloved flame Sean Monahan and likely a top 20 pick but Kadri has been full value for his contract so far and I get the sense he is going to age like Pavelski who was impactful until his late 30’s. I have no interest in simply dumping that contract to get out of the final 4 years. I think he is a super valuable veteran who brings the right intensity and preparation to the game that the Flames want their young players exposed to.

I am not interested in Middelstat but if it was Middelstat+1st+2nd then I am ready to deal with that price is probably way too steep for Colorado but I more than happy to keep Kadri on the Flames

[Gordon Bombay]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

After the Colorado trade, they are not a big contender for the cup. The Flames probably have a better chance now in the next 5 years.

Maybe I'm just overreacting but you don't trade a Rantanen.

All comes down to goaltending for COL I think. When you have the #1 center and the #1 defenceman in the league, you will be considered a contender. And now that they have a true #2 center, they could be better. Also could be a bit worse. Time will tell.

COL definitely has a better chance of winning the cup within next 3 years than Calgary.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Something to consider as well is how tight this group of flames are at this point. I think it was Kelly Hrudey who said a few weeks ago that this is the closest group he has seen since covering the flames. That sounds like a good work environment for Kadri as well as any player. His family is all here and, by all accounts, he loves living here.

So it’s a team that’s winning, is in a playoff spot, is a tight group and could be considered to have a bright future with all the young talent on the way. Kadri is also considered a leader on a team for likely the first time in his NHL career. Which most players appreciate.

All that sounds like a situation where a player would not want to leave. Colorado probably has a better chance at a cup but I bet they are not feeling as good as a team right now as the flames are.

This is bang on stemit. I am on the tear it down crowd, by which i mean trading Anderson however i have changed my mind. This is a tight nit group thats in the playoffs it would be devastating to move a core piece: kadri or Anderson.

I dont believe that kadri wants to be traded. If the team is in a playoff hunt Anderson probably wouldn’t either. Without those two we probably dont make the playoffs.

Conroy find that top six center!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

After the Colorado trade, they are not a big contender for the cup. The Flames probably have a better chance now in the next 5 years.

Maybe I'm just overreacting but you don't trade a Rantanen.

They have arguably the best center in the league. They have indisputably, the best defenseman in the league. They have been lacking depth since the cup run, and yesterday sold high on their third best player (who they were likely losing anyway), in order to build more depth around the best one-two punch in the NHL. And they have space now to add more at the deadline.

IMO, they just moved closer to the cup, not further away (and even if not this year, in future years for sure)

[TOfan]

About a week ago, or perhaps earth is week, Seravelli seemed to get under the skin of a lot of folks here who did not like hearing the suggestion that the Flames might be looking at a third pair D, presumably for a mid-late round pick.

That, in and of itself, is probably not going to be a popular move.

That said, what if it were balanced by the Flames utilizing their cap space and being third party brokers. What if the Flames do both? Trade to bring in depth but then also brining in picks?

I know some are hard-liners and no pick should ever be traded but I think people also need to be realistic. If the Flames are in a playoff spot, or close to it, I think we’ve all seen enough from this organization to know that , they will.

My view is that I’m fine so long as at the end of the day, they don’t have a pick deficit. Similar to last year, I hope they have 9-20 picks by the time the draft rolls around.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

After the Colorado trade, they are not a big contender for the cup. The Flames probably have a better chance now in the next 5 years.

Maybe I'm just overreacting but you don't trade a Rantanen.

Fully agree, seems like trading for mediocrity over an extended period of time.

Colorado is not a very well managed team.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TOfan

About a week ago, or perhaps earth is week, Seravelli seemed to get under the skin of a lot of folks here who did not like hearing the suggestion that the Flames might be looking at a third pair D, presumably for a mid-late round pick.

That, in and of itself, is probably not going to be a popular move.

That said, what if it were balanced by the Flames utilizing their cap space and being third party brokers. What if the Flames do both? Trade to bring in depth but then also brining in picks?

I know some are hard-liners and no pick should ever be traded but I think people also need to be realistic. If the Flames are in a playoff spot, or close to it, I think we’ve all seen enough from this organization to know that , they will.

My view is that I’m fine so long as at the end of the day, they don’t have a pick deficit. Similar to last year, I hope they have 9-20 picks by the time the draft rolls around.

I have been meaning to address this...

Everyone is in agreement that the Flames' #1 need is a right-shot C. No debate there.

But what they also need is an upgrade on their D, with another puck-moving defenseman. Yes, the forward group lacks offensive finish. But part of the problem is also an inability to move the puck up-ice quick enough. It's Weegar, Andersson, then crickets.

Add a defenseman that solidifies the D-core a bit, and helps the transition game, and every forward in the top 9 becomes more productive.

Yes, we need Sharangovich and Kuzmenko to pick it up. But look at the points from the blueline: 75 pts this year (on pace for 134), vs last year when they had 193.

I once ran some numbers on points from the back-end and the gist of it was that playoff teams are over 150 (14-16 of the playoff teams each year) , and non-playoff teams are under 150.

I think that adding a decent Dman would be as impactful for this team as adding a right-shot C.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by TOfan

About a week ago, or perhaps earth is week, Seravelli seemed to get under the skin of a lot of folks here who did not like hearing the suggestion that the Flames might be looking at a third pair D, presumably for a mid-late round pick.

That, in and of itself, is probably not going to be a popular move.

That said, what if it were balanced by the Flames utilizing their cap space and being third party brokers. What if the Flames do both? Trade to bring in depth but then also brining in picks?

I know some are hard-liners and no pick should ever be traded but I think people also need to be realistic. If the Flames are in a playoff spot, or close to it, I think we’ve all seen enough from this organization to know that , they will.

My view is that I’m fine so long as at the end of the day, they don’t have a pick deficit. Similar to last year, I hope they have 9-20 picks by the time the draft rolls around.

As long as we have more picks it’s fine. I am hardliner on no picks should be moved so it’s super disappointing that the team remains short sighted.

As we saw cap space probably isn’t worth as much now so what are we looking at a 3rd?

[868904]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I have been meaning to address this...

Everyone is in agreement that the Flames' #1 need is a right-shot C. No debate there.

But what they also need is an upgrade on their D, with another puck-moving defenseman. Yes, the forward group lacks offensive finish. But part of the problem is also an inability to move the puck up-ice quick enough. It's Weegar, Andersson, then crickets.

Add a defenseman that solidifies the D-core a bit, and helps the transition game, and every forward in the top 9 becomes more productive.

Yes, we need Sharangovich and Kuzmenko to pick it up. But look at the points from the blueline: 75 pts this year (on pace for 134), vs last year when they had 193.

I once ran some numbers on points from the back-end and the gist of it was that playoff teams are over 150 (14-16 of the playoff teams each year) , and non-playoff teams are under 150.

I think that adding a decent Dman would be as impactful for this team as adding a right-shot C.

They should give Barrie a try with Weegar then. Hanley and Miromanov haven’t been great and haven’t been that type of puck moving defenceman in the past.

I can’t see the Flames getting anyone better than Barrie at a cost less than a 3rd round pick and I’m definitely not interested in doing that.

They should also give Solo a shot too. And when I say a shot, I mean play him with Weegar and see what he can do. Don’t play him in the 3rd pairing with Pachal or Bean, play Solo with Weegar.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by 868904

They should give Barrie a try with Weegar then. Hanley and Miromanov haven’t been great and haven’t been that type of puck moving defenceman in the past.

I can’t see the Flames getting anyone better than Barrie at a cost less than a 3rd round pick and I’m definitely not interested in doing that.

They should also give Solo a shot too. And when I say a shot, I mean play him with Weegar and see what he can do. Don’t play him in the 3rd pairing with Pachal or Bean, play Solo with Weegar.

Barrie solves the puck-moving part of the equation, but not the 'solidify the D' part of the equation. If anything, he weakens it.

If they're going to do it, it needs to be someone better than Barrie. And like the right-shot C problem, it makes sense, if the person acquired is young enough to fit the timeline.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We have a bunch of puck moving prospects.

[dammage79]

I'd prefer the Flames call up Grushnikov or Solo or Kuznetsov before going the trade route to upgrade the left side defense.

But if the playoffs are a real chance they'd probably want to go add some experience.

Really in my opinion, the Flames really only need to upgrade on the Hanley/Miromanov rotation. Bean and Bahl are just fine where they are. And I don't know if there's a better right side trio out there that play to their strengths as good as Razz, Weegs and Pachal. They're locktite.

[Tbull8]

I actually dont hate having Barrie now for D depth. If they do make the playoffs, having a vet like him who can step in at any point is a great insurance option. Listened to his interview down with the Wranglers and he seems to have a great attitude

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by TOfan

About a week ago, or perhaps earth is week, Seravelli seemed to get under the skin of a lot of folks here who did not like hearing the suggestion that the Flames might be looking at a third pair D, presumably for a mid-late round pick.

That, in and of itself, is probably not going to be a popular move.

That said, what if it were balanced by the Flames utilizing their cap space and being third party brokers. What if the Flames do both? Trade to bring in depth but then also brining in picks?

I know some are hard-liners and no pick should ever be traded but I think people also need to be realistic. If the Flames are in a playoff spot, or close to it, I think we’ve all seen enough from this organization to know that , they will.

My view is that I’m fine so long as at the end of the day, they don’t have a pick deficit. Similar to last year, I hope they have 9-20 picks by the time the draft rolls around.

I don’t mind them bringing in a depth defender for the playoffs. I also don’t mind them bringing in some scoring help. They’ll get Zary back eventually too.

I think their roster is going to get cleaned up in the summer. So a couple of short term moves (or a longer one if it’s a younger forward) I think would help with the long term culture if they could get into the playoffs. Gets the young players some valuable experience.

The Flames have lots of capspace, draft picks and a ton of young D that they aren’t going to have spots for. They have a lot of flexibility to be creative if they want to. I think they are in a great position.

[BrennyBaller]

I really don’t know why they haven’t tried Bean with Weegar. Miromanov and Hanley have been fine but haven’t worked great. Bean started the year tough but I think has settled in. I feel his issue was figuring out his role, and now that he understands it, him and Pachal have settled in very well as a solid 3rd pair.

He was drafted in the first round for a reason and started his career playing PP in Carolina and CBJ before injuries. I believe it’s worth a shot.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I disagree with the notion of bringing in depth defencemen for the playoffs. Why? I get that you want to reward them for having a great season, but for too long this organization kept throwing away picks on depth defencemen that don't really move the needle.


On top of this - Solovyov, Kuznetsov and Poirier will all need waivers next season (Solovyov has passed through waivers already this season, but he is having a pretty good season). Parekh will be pushing to make the team too. Brzustewicz looked great at camp, and though he had a slow start, his points are really starting to come now, and I expect him to push again. Morin is a dark horse. Grushnikov was labeled as being "almost NHL ready" at the trade - he is still waiver ineligible for another season, but he should start getting some looks.


I would rather test out what we have in-house if the need arises rather than go put up some more roadblocks in front of players, and take away picks like Mews, Mangiapane, Wolf just to try and improve the team for... what exactly? The Flames are probably not going to win or lose a series at this point with a mild upgrade or two on defence. Just keep those picks and use them at the draft, and give some young kids the necessary experience for their continued development.

[Muta]

Still impressed with how awesome Pachal is. Best bottom-pairing defenseman we've had in ages.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Muta

Still impressed with how awesome Pachal is. Best bottom-pairing defenseman we've had in ages.

Part of a growing list of found money

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I once ran some numbers on points from the back-end and the gist of it was that playoff teams are over 150 (14-16 of the playoff teams each year) , and non-playoff teams are under 150.

I think that adding a decent Dman would be as impactful for this team as adding a right-shot C.

Is that meaningful, or are points from anybody meaningful?

For any given number of non-empty-net goals created, is the number that come with contributions from D predictive of winning games?

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Something to consider as well is how tight this group of flames are at this point. I think it was Kelly Hrudey who said a few weeks ago that this is the closest group he has seen since covering the flames. That sounds like a good work environment for Kadri as well as any player. His family is all here and, by all accounts, he loves living here.

So it’s a team that’s winning, is in a playoff spot, is a tight group and could be considered to have a bright future with all the young talent on the way. Kadri is also considered a leader on a team for likely the first time in his NHL career. Which most players appreciate.

All that sounds like a situation where a player would not want to leave. Colorado probably has a better chance at a cup but I bet they are not feeling as good as a team right now as the flames are.

100% agree with you about the importance of having a team where everyone likes each other and actually gets along with each other. I have started to take what I read/hear about how a locker room is with a giant grain of salt after how many times it's turned out to be lies and just what people say. Even when Weegar was interviewed recently by Steinberg at the charity poker event, he mentioned how they always say that the guys are close and that it's the closest the team has ever been when they don't mean it, but this time when he says it, it's "really true". Lol.