Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[dammage79]

At what point should Canadians start to really start looking around and getting concerned about the U.S actually ramping up this idea.

This feels alarmingly like Germany looking at Poland. Except for the religious genocidal tendencies. But a natural resource grab of epic proportions.

The sheer amount of fresh water alone is enough to inspire thought on a take over.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Let see the Smith lovers now, bending to Trump and him coming back with taking Canada over.

THat women is a piece of human trash.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Azure

People move towards where they can find better paying jobs and support their families.

Equalization does not make make a poor part of the country create more jobs.

Jobs is what truly funds all the things you are saying is important.

If one region of the country is better at creating those jobs, they shouldn't be punished because of it. Especially under the ridiculous idea that we should now equate equalization payments as 'good value for public investment.'

Alberta isn’t punished. High-earning Canadians end up paying more in taxes than they receive in services, and Alberta has more high-earning Canadians (and fewer old, retired Canadians).

Again, if Alberta conservatives feel that strongly that taxpayers in communities with strong economies shouldn’t subsidize public services in communities with weaker economies, we should review how rural schools, roads, and hospitals in this province are funded. But I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that to appear on the agenda of the next party convention of the UCP.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by dammage79

At what point should Canadians start to really start looking around and getting concerned about the U.S actually ramping up this idea.

This feels alarmingly like Germany looking at Poland. Except for the religious genocidal tendencies. But a natural resource grab of epic proportions.

The sheer amount of fresh water alone is enough to inspire thought on a take over.

Ralph understands.

Spoiler!

[shotinthebacklund]

Originally Posted by dammage79

At what point should Canadians start to really start looking around and getting concerned about the U.S actually ramping up this idea.

This feels alarmingly like Germany looking at Poland. Except for the religious genocidal tendencies. But a natural resource grab of epic proportions.

The sheer amount of fresh water alone is enough to inspire thought on a take over.

If it happens you step back and let it. There is nothing you or Canadians can do about it, You are American now. fighting would be a 100% useless loss of life.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Azure

https://www.iedm.org/provincial-gove...her-provinces/

Uhh, what?

So your complaint has no merit at all and was totally made up?

Weird.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by dammage79

At what point should Canadians start to really start looking around and getting concerned about the U.S actually ramping up this idea.

This feels alarmingly like Germany looking at Poland. Except for the religious genocidal tendencies. But a natural resource grab of epic proportions.

The sheer amount of fresh water alone is enough to inspire thought on a take over.

Trump is just doing his usual stomping his feet, bullying, reprehensible scumbag schtick. This stuff is mostly just for show to make himself look like a tough guy, because that’s what his supporters want. And because he knows it usually gets him results. It’s worked for him his entire life.

The problem is that he’s arguably the dumbest human being on Earth and he doesn’t understand how anything works, particularly things like trade agreements. But in order to try and make himself and his billionaire buddies richer, he’s willing to destroy relationships with America’s closest allies/trading partners and severely damage the economies of all three countries to do it. How do you possibly negotiate with an idiot like that? Canada and Mexico can present him all the facts and statistics they want, but he and the MAGA lunatics in his administration aren’t gonna listen. I don’t know what the solution is for dealing with these assclowns, but it ain’t gonna be easy.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by dammage79

At what point should Canadians start to really start looking around and getting concerned about the U.S actually ramping up this idea.

This feels alarmingly like Germany looking at Poland. Except for the religious genocidal tendencies. But a natural resource grab of epic proportions.

The sheer amount of fresh water alone is enough to inspire thought on a take over.

I think it needs to be taken seriously.
Trump says so much crap that people start ignoring a lot of it; then he acts on some of if and it passes through without most people paying attention.

It's hard to know which thoughts he'll follow thought on (he doesn't even know during his rambles) but none are impossible.

[FlamesAddiction]

Tesla is raising prices in Canada by up to $9,000.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...ws-2025-01-23/

It's not outright stated but implied that it is politically motivated.

[Fuzz]

Once we add a 25% counter tariff they'll basically be unaffordable in Canada, so this is all good stuff. We don't have any Tesla factories or anything in Canada, other than their "dealer" network so this seems like a perfect target.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I used to think that too. But the figures on how strongly happiness and health correlate to the strength of your social support network changed my mind.

25 year olds picking up stakes and moving across the country to improve their income from $60k to $80k has economic value. But it if means abandoning their social network, it may have negative consequences that go beyond the economic calculus.

There’s a civic good in people living around friends and family - especially parents raising children. If viable schools and hospitals in Brandon and Saint John help keep young adults in a community where they have the support of parents and friends, which in turn help sustain marriages, families, and mental health, then that’s good value for public investment.

You want somone else to pay so people can have "social network". This is the kind of daydremy thinking that got this country into this mess.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Unfortunately there are more people than available good jobs. How can equality be available in those circumstances?

Go where the jobs are then. Equalization payments are designed to prevent this.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Azure

https://www.iedm.org/provincial-gove...her-provinces/

Uhh, what?

So what are you complaining about, then?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Go where the jobs are then. Equalization payments are designed to prevent this.

Can you point to the legislation involving transfer payments that indicates this was a purposeful design of the system?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Go where the jobs are then. Equalization payments are designed to prevent this.

Ok let’s dumb this right down.

If there are 100 adults in the country who need to work to be able to afford to keep themselves alive and there are only 50 jobs available, how are all 100 going to be guaranteed equality?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Once we add a 25% counter tariff they'll basically be unaffordable in Canada, so this is all good stuff. We don't have any Tesla factories or anything in Canada, other than their "dealer" network so this seems like a perfect target.

That was my first thought. Like, oh well. I guess Canadians will have to buy more affordable cars whose brand isn't associated with a Nazi. I wonder how many Tesla owners are ashamed to be driving around a symbol of Elon Musk now. I did see a Reddit thread yesterday with someone saying they are getting rid of their Tesla now because him. I imagine there are many more.

Some people are saying the price increase is because Musk is expecting Trumps policies towards Canada will massively devalue our currency.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

That was my first thought. Like, oh well. I guess Canadians will have to buy more affordable cars whose brand isn't associated with a Nazi. I wonder how many Tesla owners are ashamed to be driving around a symbol of Elon Musk now. I did see a Reddit thread yesterday with someone saying they are getting rid of their Tesla now because him. I imagine there are many more.

Some people are saying the price increase is because Musk is expecting Trumps policies towards Canada will massively devalue our currency.

I'd be curious to know how many people that drive a Tesla even know who the CEO is. I think most people are actually clueless about this kind of stuff.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'd be curious to know how many people that drive a Tesla even know who the CEO is. I think most people are actually clueless about this kind of stuff.

In most cases, I think you'd be right. But Tesla and Musk are a major major exception.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Ok let’s dumb this right down.

If there are 100 adults in the country who need to work to be able to afford to keep themselves alive and there are only 50 jobs available, how are all 100 going to be guaranteed equality?

I don't agree with the premise of the question.

You are describing a problem for which the best fix is capitalism and free markets. This is because the answer to your question is, of course, create more jobs.

Equalization is a much worse way to solve the problem you describe.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

I don't agree with the premise of the question.

You are describing a problem for which the best fix is capitalism and free markets. This is because the answer to your question is, of course, create more jobs.

Equalization is a much worse way to solve the problem you describe.

Agreed. It's like the crime problem. Police and a criminal justice system are a terrible way to solve it. People should just move to safer, less violent areas.