Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Firebot

https://www.thestar.com/politics/fed...a6e815131.html

Carney being supported by Catherine McKenna, Steven Guilbeault, Jonathan Wilkinson, all huge advocates of the carbon tax, while pretending that the carbon tax is dead if you elect Carney.



Sounds like Wilkinson is furiously steaming, and it appears the Liberals core still think it's all just a messaging issue.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wil...nces-1.7146585





https://globalnews.ca/news/10158344/...litical-fight/

This article from January 8 2025 "Energy and Natural Resources Minister Jonathan Wilkinson says he would be 'committed' to the consumer carbon tax should he become Liberal ..."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/arti...al-leadership/

Let's trust these guys to save you from themselves!

They can't support the actual current tax because propoganda has made it unpopular. But they were correct to support it because (a) it works to lower emissions and (b) as predicted, didn't hurt the economy.

https://www.wealthprofessional.ca/ne...0this%20period.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Anyone can move to a city, so we should stop subsidizing rural communities.

Agreed. I know a guy who sells wood and another guy that sells barbed wire, we can have them all rounded up and camps built within a week!

It'll be just like Summer Camp!

And, considering most of them are Rural the inmates guests might actually help.

"Thats not how you put in a post! This is how you put in a post!!"

But unfortunately I cant source German Shepherds on such short notice so we have to suffice with Golden Retrievers and....some of them will be Golden Doodles.

Happiest Internment Camp ever....?

[activeStick]

Sigh.... chat conversation with a friend...

Them: "Our incompetent government has now successful ruined the relationship with the US!"

Me: "Things seemed to be fine between the two countries until recently... I wonder what changed?"

Them: "Trudeau pissed Trump off because he's an idiot and the Alberta premier smoothed things over a bit, but tariffs are still coming Feb 1."

Sigh... There's really no way to reason with these people...

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Equalality is always available to every citizen. They just have to move to the location with the more productive economy.

It's never a good idea to transfer wealth from more productive jurisdictions to less productive jurisdictions. It just reduces labour mobility.

Equalization would be more justifiable if we didn't have freedom of movement. Anyone can move to Alberta.

I used to think that too. But the figures on how strongly happiness and health correlate to the strength of your social support network changed my mind.

25 year olds picking up stakes and moving across the country to improve their income from $60k to $80k has economic value. But it if means abandoning their social network, it may have negative consequences that go beyond the economic calculus.

There’s a civic good in people living around friends and family - especially parents raising children. If viable schools and hospitals in Brandon and Saint John help keep young adults in a community where they have the support of parents and friends, which in turn help sustain marriages, families, and mental health, then that’s good value for public investment.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Sigh.... chat conversation with a friend...

Them: "Our incompetent government has now successful ruined the relationship with the US!"

Me: "Things seemed to be fine between the two countries until recently... I wonder what changed?"

Them: "Trudeau pissed Trump off because he's an idiot and the Alberta premier smoothed things over a bit, but tariffs are still coming Feb 1."

Sigh... There's really no way to reason with these people...

Hmmm....while you're not wrong and normally I'd agree with you, I am inclined to always try and remember that unlike most Governments and Political Leaders, Drumpf does hold grudges. I mean, its the whole reason Biden pardoned everyone he could think of.

Normal Governments and Leaders wouldnt do that, and, if someone like Trudeau had pissed them off for whatever reason (I'm not familiar with any in these circumstances) a normal leader would shrug that off, move along and do whats best for his Country and to maintain good Economic and Diplomatic relationships.

But...Drumpf is a bit erratic and unpredictable? And, unfortunately, on his last term...so he doesnt really have anything to lose.

So while I agree with you and disagree with your friend in principle....there is the chance that anything could happen.

That guy is a lunatic.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Equalality is always available to every citizen. They just have to move to the location with the more productive economy.

Unfortunately there are more people than available good jobs. How can equality be available in those circumstances?

[Fuzz]

Bo is only going to be happy when every human is a cog in a machine to be moved around in whatever way maximizes economic output. He may not actually be human. I'm not convinced he knows what feelings are.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They can't support the actual current tax because propoganda has made it unpopular. But they were correct to support it because (a) it works to lower emissions and (b) as predicted, didn't hurt the economy.

https://www.wealthprofessional.ca/ne...0this%20period.

Beep boop beep beep beep. Firebot has still not firmware updated from Reformparty Ver 1.1.1.

Rightwingers are still steamed the Libs moved on from Blackface Mr. Dressup.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Azure

You know what would also be a good start? Legalizing direct to consumer alcohol sales in Canada across all provinces. Why can't I buy booze online from Quebec, BC or Alberta?

Because your province won’t let you.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Because your province won’t let you.

Not sure is studies have been done but would alcohol delivery result in possibly a slight reduction in DUI?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Like the US? Oh..wait. How many countries have as good and easy a system? Why do you #### on absolutely everything?

Yes, it should also be expected from the US as well. For some who likes to #### on the US all the time why use them as a measuring stick?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Firebot

https://www.thestar.com/politics/fed...a6e815131.html

Carney being supported by Catherine McKenna, Steven Guilbeault, Jonathan Wilkinson, all huge advocates of the carbon tax, while pretending that the carbon tax is dead if you elect Carney.



Sounds like Wilkinson is furiously steaming, and it appears the Liberals core still think it's all just a messaging issue.

Going back in memory lane, on what he thought and how he felt about Canadians and provinces being upset.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wil...nces-1.7146585





https://globalnews.ca/news/10158344/...litical-fight/

This article from January 8 2025 "Energy and Natural Resources Minister Jonathan Wilkinson says he would be 'committed' to the consumer carbon tax should he become Liberal ..."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/arti...al-leadership/



Let's trust these guys to save you from themselves!

Yes, the enviroweenie Steven Guilbeault, who would chain himself to oil equipment to protest how much he hates carbon, is going to support a candidate who is not insanely anti-fossil fuel, and who will not implement and ever harsher and more ridiculous form of the 'punish all people who use fossil fuels' pet project that he forced through.

lol.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I used to think that too. But the figures on how strongly happiness and health correlate to the strength of your social support network changed my mind.

25 year olds picking up stakes and moving across the country to improve their income from $60k to $80k has economic value. But it if means abandoning their social network, it may have negative consequences that go beyond the economic calculus.

There’s a civic good in people living around friends and family - especially parents raising children. If viable schools and hospitals in Brandon and Saint John help keep young adults in a community where they have the support of parents and friends, which in turn help sustain marriages, families, and mental health, then that’s good value for public investment.

People move towards where they can find better paying jobs and support their families.

Equalization does not make make a poor part of the country create more jobs.

Jobs is what truly funds all the things you are saying is important.

If one region of the country is better at creating those jobs, they shouldn't be punished because of it. Especially under the ridiculous idea that we should now equate equalization payments as 'good value for public investment.'

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Azure

Yes, it should also be expected from the US as well. For some who likes to #### on the US all the time why use them as a measuring stick?

OK, so going down the list then, which counties have as easy a system as Canada, or better? You started the measuring contest, so step up with some facts, or STFU.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Because your province won’t let you.

Canada’s provincial and territorial governments should allow consumers to shop online for alcoholic beverages produced elsewhere in the country, indicates an MEI publication released this morning.

“The restrictions imposed by provincial alcohol monopolies are such that it is sometimes easier for a Canadian producer to sell its products on the other side of the world than in the province next door,” explains Shal Marriott, research associate at the MEI and author of the study. “By allowing producers to sell their products online, directly to consumers, our provincial governments would remove obstacles to their growth.”

Manitoba is the only province to allow its residents to shop online for Canadian alcoholic beverages from other provinces, without restriction.

British Columbia, Saskatchewan, Alberta, and Nova Scotia have partial restrictions, allowing consumers to shop online for certain categories of products from specific parts of the country.

Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland and Labrador each continue to prohibit consumers from shopping online for alcoholic beverages from outside the province.

https://www.iedm.org/provincial-gove...her-provinces/

Uhh, what?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

OK, so going down the list then, which counties have as easy a system as Canada, or better? You started the measuring contest, so step up with some facts, or STFU.

No, I said its 2025, and that efficient customs processing should be expected from any 1st world country.

You're the one who made the US comparison. Try to keep up with your own words.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Azure

No, I said its 2025, and that efficient customs processing should be expected from any 1st world country.

You're the one who made the US comparison. Try to keep up with your own words.

OK, so you don't actually have anything to compare it to. It could be that Canada is the only country with this modern system, but you wouldn't know because you can only crap on everything Canada. It's OK to say some good things about your own country occasionally. I promise it won't make you communist.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

OK, so you don't actually have anything to compare it to. It could be that Canada is the only country with this modern system, but you wouldn't know because you can only crap on everything Canada. It's OK to say some good things about your own country occasionally. I promise it won't make you communist.

The US has something similar to Canada with their Mobile Passport Control. I've never used it obviously because of the way that immigration is handled between Canada and the US at airports. Japan also has an electronic declaration process.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1882470582333153287

I still say we should negotiate and take over the US.

Premier Trump has a ring to it.

[direwolf]

Christ, he’s such an insufferable jackass. I don’t envy anyone in government who has to deal with this clown. Only 4 days into his term, and it’s already a complete s*** show.