Please keep arguing with the person splitting hairs about how many beliefs you can share with Nazis without being a Nazi yourself. Definitely someone posting in good faith and worth engaging
I have close family members whose country was invaded by real Nazis, and I’ve heard first-hand accounts of what they were truly like. Comparing someone to a Nazi over ideological disagreements trivializes the suffering caused by actual Nazis. If you want to dilute the meaning of Nazism simply because you despise someone who doesn’t align with your beliefs, that’s your choice—but it’s not a comparison I can accept.
To substantiate claims that someone is a Nazi, the evidence must demonstrate intent or alignment with core Nazi beliefs (e.g., racial supremacy, authoritarianism, anti-Semitism, or support for the Holocaust). For example:
1. Public statements explicitly endorsing Nazi ideology.
2. Active participation in organizations that promote Nazi beliefs.
3. Advocacy for policies rooted in Nazi principles.
A gesture, association, or poorly chosen comment alone does not inherently prove alignment with Nazi ideology. Context matters, and intent must be clear.
What is a Nazi
1. Belief in racial hierarchy, especially Aryan supremacy.
2. Advocacy for totalitarian governance.
3. Support for ethnic cleansing, anti-Semitism, or Holocaust denial.
I’m not dismissing evidence outright; I’m arguing for the importance of relevant and sufficient evidence
I believe it’s essential to approach such accusations with care and ensure that evidence meets a standard of clarity and relevance. Mislabeling someone as a Nazi without clear intent or alignment risks trivializing the term and undermining its historical significance. I hope this clarifies my position, and I’d be happy to engage further if you have evidence that directly addresses these points.
If I ever get to the point where I spend my free time copy and pasting chatbot responses to troll a message board in support of the richest person in the world, I hope someone puts me out of my misery.
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If I ever get to the point where I spend my free time copy and pasting chatbot responses to troll a message board in support of the richest person in the world, I hope someone puts me out of my misery.
I can understand how it might seem unusual to defend someone as high-profile as Musk, but my intention here isn’t about ‘supporting the richest person in the world.’ It’s about addressing accusations with fairness and ensuring discussions remain grounded in evidence and context. Labels like ‘Nazi’ carry serious weight, and throwing them around lightly risks trivializing their historical significance. I think it’s worth discussing ideas and actions critically, regardless of who’s involved, rather than reducing it to trolling or blind support.
I can understand how it might seem unusual to defend someone as high-profile as Musk, but my intention here isn’t about ‘supporting the richest person in the world.’ It’s about addressing accusations with fairness and ensuring discussions remain grounded in evidence and context. Labels like ‘Nazi’ carry serious weight, and throwing them around lightly risks trivializing their historical significance. I think it’s worth discussing ideas and actions critically, regardless of who’s involved, rather than reducing it to trolling or blind support.
I hope you at least have a bot handling this for you; I seem to recall you were a web developer, so hopefully that's the case. The level of emptiness that would be needed to drive someone to manually spam dozens of posts every day by copying and pasting chatbot output is too depressing to think about.
I can understand how it might seem unusual to defend someone as high-profile as Musk, but my intention here isn’t about ‘supporting the richest person in the world.’ It’s about addressing accusations with fairness and ensuring discussions remain grounded in evidence and context. Labels like ‘Nazi’ carry serious weight, and throwing them around lightly risks trivializing their historical significance. I think it’s worth discussing ideas and actions critically, regardless of who’s involved, rather than reducing it to trolling or blind support.
Dude, you throw all sorts of unjustifiable labels at people and groups of people constantly. Don’t pretend that’s your line.
A new low from you. Go fawn over neo-nazis somewhere else.
I hope you at least have a bot handling this for you; I seem to recall you were a web developer, so hopefully that's the case. The level of emptiness that would be needed to drive someone to manually spam dozens of posts every day by copying and pasting chatbot output is too depressing to think about.
I appreciate your perspective, but my goal here isn’t to spam or blindly copy responses. I enjoy engaging in thoughtful discussions and exploring different viewpoints. If I use tools to help articulate my thoughts, it’s because I value clarity and respect in how I present my arguments. That said, I think it’s more constructive to focus on the ideas being discussed rather than assumptions about how they’re being shared.
Tools used: Spell checker
Reason: Someone made fun of my spelling and grammar , so i did better.
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A significant amount of the Musk fortune Elon enjoyed growing up, and which his dad used to support him in Canada and America—and this will explain why Elon for years lied about his father’s support, even to the point of falsely implying he had written his father out of his life entirely—came from illegal apartheid-era mines in Zambia that exploited their Black workers but made the Musks fantastically wealthy.
The Musk Family refused to pay taxes on these mines or reveal their interest in them for a reason that makes sense if you know that the Musks comes from generations of white supremacists and some of them—e.g., Elon Musk’s grandparents—were even open Nazi sympathizers.
Further down the article (linked in the article in italics):
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(For more information on Elon Musk’s personal racism, see all the exhaustive Proof reporting here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. For more information on his obsession with white-run autocracies, see here, here, here and here. This essay also draws explicitly from Musk’s public Twitter feed, his interviews at major tech conferences that have been audio- and/or video-recorded, the long list of anonymous implicitly neo-Nazi and white supremacist accounts he often amplifies on Twitter, the Walter Isaacson and Ashlee Vance and Zoë Schiffer and Kate Conger and Ryan Mac biographies of Musk, and major-media reports on the many lawsuits brought against him and/or his many companies, which include suits alleging racial discrimination, union-busting, sexual harassment, fraud, willful violation of federal safety regulations, and contempt for all government regulation.)
But remember, according to Mel, Musk is just misunderstood.
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But remember, according to Mel, Musk is just misunderstood.
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You’re bending over backwards defending people who do nazi salutes, celebrate neo-nazi groups, and praise individual neo-nazis.
There’s no misrepresentation.
That may be how you perceive it, but in reality, that’s not what I’m doing
I don’t know who these ‘people’ are that you’re referring to. If you mean Elon Musk, I don’t believe he embodies the things you’re accusing him of. You’re free to make those claims, but without evidence, they remain unsubstantiated and incorrect.
Living in a world where accusations are thrown around without careful thought or proof isn’t just unproductive—it’s dangerous. It’s important to approach such discussions with fairness and accountability.
, so i did better.
