Yeah, it's pretty clear that it's a nod to naziism. He's written op-eds in German newspapers calling for AfD as the only hope for Germany. AfD are neo-nazi's. He brought them to the inauguration. He's platformed Nick Fuentes, a neo-nazi. Taking all of that context into consideration, you're out here defending a nazi. I wonder what that makes you?
Musk’s support for AfD as proof of being a Nazi requires more than an op-ed or indirect association. Supporting a party, even if problematic, doesn’t automatically equate to endorsing every extreme element of it.
Platforming someone doesn’t inherently mean endorsing their ideology—it could also be a result of poor judgment or a broader strategy, not an endorsement of their beliefs.
If you can give me something better than strawman arguments (Distorts or oversimplifies another person’s position) (misrepresent or oversimplify your position in order to attack it more easily) we can have a conversation but you have severe case of confirmation bias that is clouding your judgment.
Are you insinuating that Elon's dealers are over-charging him because they're aware of his net worth?
Thats low...even for Terrys...
Nah it ain't that. For a guy that rich he is getting pretty much the rawest of the raw, absolute top quality #### us plebs could never get. And that ain't cheap.
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But the most astute drug users you know don't have an unlimited budget. Imagine if they had $400 billion to splurge...
Even the hard core tolerances have a limit before medical assistance intervenes. I suppose if you add in medical costs into the equation, yeah 10k a day is easily attainable.
Especially if you're really into ketamine, there's a limit even for hard core users.
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Musk’s support for AfD as proof of being a Nazi requires more than an op-ed or indirect association. Supporting a party, even if problematic, doesn’t automatically equate to endorsing every extreme element of it.
Platforming someone doesn’t inherently mean endorsing their ideology—it could also be a result of poor judgment or a broader strategy, not an endorsement of their beliefs.
If you can give me something better than strawman arguments (Distorts or oversimplifies another person’s position) (misrepresent or oversimplify your position in order to attack it more easily) we can have a conversation but you have severe case of confirmation bias that is clouding your judgment.
What evidence would convince you?
What is your definition of Nazi?
Once these are clarified then perhaps someone can give the answer you seek but right now you are playing no true Scotsman and no matter what piece of eveidence anyone produces you will dismiss with the same rational as above.
So what are your definitions and evidentiary requirements?
What evidence would convince you?
What is your definition of Nazi?
Once these are clarified then perhaps someone can give the answer you seek but right now you are playing no true Scotsman and no matter what piece of eveidence anyone produces you will dismiss with the same rational as above.
So what are your definitions and evidentiary requirements?
To substantiate claims that someone is a Nazi, the evidence must demonstrate intent or alignment with core Nazi beliefs (e.g., racial supremacy, authoritarianism, anti-Semitism, or support for the Holocaust). For example:
1. Public statements explicitly endorsing Nazi ideology.
2. Active participation in organizations that promote Nazi beliefs.
3. Advocacy for policies rooted in Nazi principles.
A gesture, association, or poorly chosen comment alone does not inherently prove alignment with Nazi ideology. Context matters, and intent must be clear.
What is a Nazi
1. Belief in racial hierarchy, especially Aryan supremacy.
2. Advocacy for totalitarian governance.
3. Support for ethnic cleansing, anti-Semitism, or Holocaust denial.
I’m not dismissing evidence outright; I’m arguing for the importance of relevant and sufficient evidence
I believe it’s essential to approach such accusations with care and ensure that evidence meets a standard of clarity and relevance. Mislabeling someone as a Nazi without clear intent or alignment risks trivializing the term and undermining its historical significance. I hope this clarifies my position, and I’d be happy to engage further if you have evidence that directly addresses these points.
So Trump has pardoned hundreds of violent criminals. That’s an affirmation that his administration supports and encourages political violence, as long as it’s carried out by Trump supporters. So, if you’re planning to commit any crime, first don a MAGA hat, and you’ll be able to get away with it. It’s a get-out-of-jail card.
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Where does an allusion to the 14 words fall on mels 'he might not be a nazi' scale?
Winston Churchill allied with Joseph Stalin during WW2. Given the level of discourse by some people in this world, that should definitely make him a communist.
Musk’s support for AfD as proof of being a Nazi requires more than an op-ed or indirect association. Supporting a party, even if problematic, doesn’t automatically equate to endorsing every extreme element of it.
Platforming someone doesn’t inherently mean endorsing their ideology—it could also be a result of poor judgment or a broader strategy, not an endorsement of their beliefs.
If you can give me something better than strawman arguments (Distorts or oversimplifies another person’s position) (misrepresent or oversimplify your position in order to attack it more easily) we can have a conversation but you have severe case of confirmation bias that is clouding your judgment.
How about
1) runs a website that since he took over has made it just fine to post antisemite revisionist and pro nazi posts to the degree they have become commonplace, by his actions he has done everything in his power to create a breeding ground for racist and antisemite thought on twitter under the guise of free speech (whilst apparently his algorithm actually suppresses opposing views)
I personally tried to flag a post a few months ago that argued Hitler was actually the good guy and we should have fought to eliminate Jews from the earth, this apparently wasn't hate speech and my complaint was rejected
2) espouses a very similar nazi ideological interest in childbirth, this is exactly the same social darwinism that fueled the nazis
So Trump has pardoned hundreds of violent criminals. That’s an affirmation that his administration supports and encourages political violence, as long as it’s carried out by Trump supporters. So, if you’re planning to commit any crime, first don a MAGA hat, and you’ll be able to get away with it. It’s a get-out-of-jail card.
It will be interesting to see if any of those psychos go after any of the prosecutors, jurors, or judges involved. With about 1,500 of them, there are probably a few nutty enough to try.
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Winston Churchill allied with Joseph Stalin during WW2. Given the level of discourse by some people in this world, that should definitely make him a communist.
But he wasn't
He wasn’t allied with him except out of necessity. Damn you’re thick.
1) runs a website that since he took over has made it just fine to post antisemite revisionist and pro nazi posts to the degree they have become commonplace, by his actions he has done everything in his power to create a breeding ground for racist and antisemite thought on twitter under the guise of free speech (whilst apparently his algorithm actually suppresses opposing views)
it’s entirely valid to question Musk’s decisions and policies, particularly regarding content moderation, but accusations of aligning with Nazi ideology must be based on clear, substantiated evidence, not opinions or assumptions. Discussions like this benefit from a careful distinction between opinion and fact.
Platform moderation decisions are complex and often flawed, and a lack of sufficient moderation does not automatically equate to actively promoting Nazi ideology.
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I personally tried to flag a post a few months ago that argued Hitler was actually the good guy and we should have fought to eliminate Jews from the earth, this apparently wasn't hate speech and my complaint was rejected
I bet
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2) espouses a very similar nazi ideological interest in childbirth, this is exactly the same social darwinism that fueled the nazis
Advocating for increased childbirth in general does not inherently align with Nazi beliefs unless it explicitly involves racial superiority or eugenics. Without clear evidence that Musk’s stance involves these elements, this claim seems speculative.
Please keep arguing with the person splitting hairs about how many beliefs you can share with Nazis without being a Nazi yourself. Definitely someone posting in good faith and worth engaging
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