01-19-2025, 06:25 PM
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#61
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Uncle Chester
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If they lose Ryan, who fills in for McDavid while he serves his suspension?
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01-19-2025, 06:31 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
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We have tons of young guys waiting for an opportunity. I would not pick up Ryan
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01-19-2025, 06:34 PM
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#63
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goriders
We have tons of young guys waiting for an opportunity. I would not pick up Ryan
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Who?
Stromgren (a winger) and...?
The Flames have kinda already brought up their young forwards banging down the door. They were low on centres down there to begin with.
Clark Bishop isn't young; Sam Morton looks just OK. Who else?
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01-19-2025, 06:43 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
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Leave him on waivers if only because picking him up helps the Oilers.
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01-19-2025, 06:47 PM
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#66
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Montréal, QC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Leave him on waivers if only because picking him up helps the Oilers.
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Does it though? He's only making 900k so if he makes it through waivers they can bury his cap hit and call him up in the playoffs if they want.
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01-19-2025, 06:51 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc
Let’s keep in mind that Ryan is no longer good enough to be on Edmonton’s 4th line. Just reflect on that thought before suggesting that the Flames should claim him.
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We should also keep in mind this is the same team that would rather pay Klingberg more to be a 7D and give up one of their few Fs that can PK.
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01-19-2025, 06:56 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Claim him and waive Rooney if necessary. For the 9 minutes per game that Rooney is currently playing, at least Ryan is (or at least was) good positionally and can win faceoffs.
Could also be a great FO teacher for Sharangovich, Posposil, and Zary.
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01-19-2025, 06:56 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Calgary
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The Oilers as always have terrible depth. The piece they felt was the least value to their terrible depth is apparently Derek Ryan. If he's not good enough for the Oilers depth, he's probably not suited for the NHL anymore. Hard pass.
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01-19-2025, 07:13 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc
Let’s keep in mind that Ryan is no longer good enough to be on Edmonton’s 4th line. Just reflect on that thought before suggesting that the Flames should claim him.
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They should claim him for humanitarian reasons.
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01-19-2025, 07:22 PM
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#71
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First Line Centre
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Honzek is a little cold offensively right now but I'd rather him at centre or Kerins than 38 year old Derek Ryan.
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01-19-2025, 07:52 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I don't see Derek Ryan as an upgrade on Rooney.
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And that's a fair argument. But saying he would be taking a spot from a kid isn't.
It is a Rooney / Ryan choice.
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01-19-2025, 07:54 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Groot
The Oilers as always have terrible depth. The piece they felt was the least value to their terrible depth is apparently Derek Ryan. If he's not good enough for the Oilers depth, he's probably not suited for the NHL anymore. Hard pass.
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This is a weak argument. Holloway couldn't crack that awful bottom 6 either.
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01-19-2025, 07:57 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
This is a weak argument. Holloway couldn't crack that awful bottom 6 either.
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It's only a weak argument if you pretend Holloway wasn't 22
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01-19-2025, 08:00 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigThief
It's only a weak argument if you pretend Holloway wasn't 22
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It's a weak argument if you understand that their bottom 6 are poorly utilized
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01-19-2025, 08:47 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: So Long, Bannatyne
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I would love Ryan back for the rest of this year. If Stromgren comes up, he needs to play third line or above.
(I would also be interested in giving Bishop the fourth line C assignment, if they don’t claim Ryan.)
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01-19-2025, 08:54 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
This is a weak argument. Holloway couldn't crack that awful bottom 6 either.
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Holloway played 38 games for the Oilers last year as a 22-year-old, and 51 games the year before. The problem wasn't that he couldn't crack the roster. The problem was that they refused to pay him, and foolishly lost him to an offer sheet.
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01-19-2025, 08:55 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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I'll pass on the traitor.
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01-19-2025, 09:03 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
Holloway played 38 games for the Oilers last year as a 22-year-old, and 51 games the year before. The problem wasn't that he couldn't crack the roster. The problem was that they refused to pay him, and foolishly lost him to an offer sheet.
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I wasn't blaming Holloway, I was blaming the Oilers
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01-19-2025, 09:17 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I wasn't blaming Holloway, I was blaming the Oilers
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I know. But you were saying Holloway couldn't crack the Oilers' bottom 6, which is not exactly true.
The Oilers lost Holloway in the off season because he got a better offer and they had already blown all their cap space. If the Oilers lose Ryan, it will be because they voluntarily threw him away in mid-season. The two cases are not really comparable.
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