[PGT] Flames 3 - Jets 1 AWOOOOOOOOOO

[Enoch Root]

Regarding the comments about fans still calling for a bottom 10 finish...

They are still plenty close enough for that to happen - it would just take a 4-5 game losing streak and they would be right there. But the likelihood of that is now smaller, because they have changed the goalie deployment.

While they were sheltering Wolf, and splitting the games, the possibility of a bottom 10 finish remained not only possible, but still maybe even probable. But since Dec 14th, they are playing Wolf 60% of the time. If they continue to do that, there is little to no chance of bottom 10 (unless injuries and trades completely derail them). And no trades are coming, as long as they are in the playoff discussion.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I will take finding an NHL starting G this season over worrying about whether the team finishes 9th worst or 18th worst.

Only losers cheer for losses.

No kidding.

Oops, our star rookie goalie is carrying us to a wildcard spot… what a developmental nightmare…

[Finger Cookin]

Wolf won't win the Calder because he's a a goalie, because at best he will split the vote with Celebrini, and because of the general bias towards eastern conference awards finalists that the media generally gets to see more of.

And none of those things will diminish his capability as a player and his legitimacy as a franchise cornerstone. We can appreciate what we have in him, even if the recognition doesn't come from elsewhere.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Wolf won't win the Calder because he's a a goalie, because at best he will split the vote with Celebrini, and because of the general bias towards eastern conference awards finalists that the media generally gets to see more of.

And none of those things will diminish his capability as a player and his legitimacy as a franchise cornerstone. We can appreciate what we have in him, even if the recognition doesn't come from elsewhere.

Of the last 15 Calder winners

6 played in the Eastern conference

9 in the West.

But you are correct that (at this time) Wolf would not be the winner.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Last game of a long trip. Tired team mentally tired you are likely to get dominated and need your goalie to steal the game.

Wolf is checking all the boxes every game. Every new challenge he just steps up and proves any doubters wrong. He should be in the hart conversation as well. Huska in the jack Adams as well n

[FBI]

Originally Posted by scotty2hotty

Exactly. If I told you:

- you can draft a Vezina calibre goalie with the first overall pick.
- that goalie will be an immediate starter
- you will also have 4 first round picks in the next 2 drafts
- you will still have tons of cap space

I think every single person in this forum would say, “Cool. Let’s rock”

Just pretend that happened … and enjoy the ride.

Don’t forget potential #1 D coming along cooking nicely.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by transplant99

No it isnt.

If he was skating and moving his legs that whole time, then sure.

But that is not a comparable.

Its just a disadvantage to winning a trophy against skaters that is baked into the position. You dont play as much....you dont get seen as much.

Whether it be the Calder or Hart....G's have a higher bar to clear.

Not arguing he isnt worthy of it, but pointing out historically how it goes and moreso why.

Minutes for a goalie - well, sure they aren't in the play 60 minutes. But a lot of the time players in a shift aren't part of the play either, they are getting into position, looking for an opening, etc.

Let's say goalies only have to be on their toes half the game. It's still 30 minutes per start. And in games like last night an even greater amount.

[FBI]

Thought Miromanov looked pretty good in his first game back..

[PepsiFree]

Wolf reaching his potential was always going to mean that bottoming out wasn’t in the cards for this team. Especially with guys like Zary and Coronato emerging. Like who did Chicago have on the team when they got Bedard? Who did San Jose have when they got Celebrini?

We’ve got some picks looking hot (not least of is the potential Karlsson-esque offensive #1 defenceman), a couple more kicks at that first round can at least, and the assets to play for a good #1 center even if they aren’t elite.

I don’t know. I look at winners like St. Louis and Boston, contenders like Winnipeg and Dallas, and there’s a path there (not saying anything about a model or whatever or dredging up all those circular conversations).

I think whoever said we should focus on building from the net out is right. Lock in the all star calibre goaltender, focus on developing the very promising d-pipeline, and get creative/keep on interesting guys at the draft like they did this year. You never know what happens, maybe we get lucky with a lottery win or something and I’m not saying “rebuild over start getting rentals”, but I like where we’re at already and think it’ll be really fun to see how this plays out.

[Roof-Daddy]

I think there is enough on the roster and in the pipeline that the Flames G, D and W positions will be very good for the next decade. If conroy can dig up some high end Cs via trade and/or draft the Flames should have a top 5 to 10 team that should be in position to have multiple runs at winning a cup.

[dino7c]

Coronato looks like a 30-40 goal scorer

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Coronato looks like a 30-40 goal scorer

Matt Cammallerianato.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Matt Cammallerianato.

Who was it that called him ‘Matt Coroneri’? That was brilliant.

[Jetfire]

Cammalleri was one of my favorite players when I was a kid. Just such a good forward. I wish we had him longer and that he was healthy more often, because when he was, he made a huge impact. The one-knee Cammalleri laser beams were the coolest thing ever to young me.

Coronato, while still really young and developing, is already the closest thing to that particular type of trigger man I've seen since we had prime Cammy, and it's really fun to watch him grow. The amount of improvements he's made this season is incredible.

[Mathgod]

Tre doesn't get enough credit for the work he did here. Were there mistakes? Yes. But we are starting to bear the fruits of his quality drafting. And of course credit to Conny as well, who was helping him every step of the way.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Who was it that called him ‘Matt Coroneri’? That was brilliant.

D as in David

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

D as in David

Can even make it into:
Matthew + Mike = Make Coroneri

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Size pure and simple. The blues are a BIG team with pretty good talent and a few "game breakers". Size is still a pretty big part of the game. Jets are an "average" sized team with few game breakers . The blues are the new Honda curse because they are built like the ducks of the past. You can get by in the nhl with bigger teams and a little less talent if you just throw your opponent around during board battles.Its alot easier to to contain an elite team if they are smaller as your guys are more equal to winning those puck battles. If that makes sense. Every puck battle ends up being more 50/50 vs the bigger teams just dumping you a second or 2 after a puck touch.

I had always thought that the Jets are in fact a big team, so I looked it up and at least according to the below, Winnipeg is tied for 5th in the league. Surprisingly the Blues are in fact below the Flames in the ranking at 26th whereas Calgary is 17th.

Of the top 10 in the below ranking, it's a 50/50 spit too in terms of playoff position or out.

As for the game, sitting down now to watch the replay. Looking forward to watching Wolf dominate!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1831773180392042523

[Enoch Root]

Cats at 29 is surprising

[midniteowl]

The Broadstreet bullies at 31 even more surprising...