2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Calgary is the 5th best place to live in the world according to the economist. Why do you all have such little faith in the actual city? Blake Coleman, notable recent UFA signing, can be quoted as choosing us for at least partially that reason.

Why are you all so pessimistic?

What team do you feel has given out the least trade protection?

I just looked at Tampa and Vegas and they have 10 players with NTCs/NMCs each.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Calgary is a great place to live as a normal person. It is not an exciting place to live as a multimillionaire athlete.

Not only that but players especially ones who have been in the league for years, have been to all the other NHL cities a number of times and have friends in all or most of them. They know, or have a pretty good idea, what life is like elsewhere. They would also have the support of that new organization informing them what community to live in, where their kids can go to school, best way to the rink, things their wires/partners might want to do, where their parents might want to stay when the visit, etc etc.

These guys are probably pampered beyond belief. Knowing that they live in a City that ranks high on livability surveys is kinda like hearing about a nice restaurant that opened up on the other side of town. ‘Oh, that’s nice. Maybe I’ll go there one day’.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Calgary is the 5th best place to live in the world according to the economist. Why do you all have such little faith in the actual city? Blake Coleman, notable recent UFA signing, can be quoted as choosing us for at least partially that reason.

Why are you all so pessimistic?

What team do you feel has given out the least trade protection?

I guess that is why the top UFA's are always clamouring to come to Calgary.

Guys like Coleman came here because Calgary was offering him the best contract. But I agree Calgary is not a horrible choice, just not top tier.

Now, I think Calgary is the greatest City in the world, but that's because of business reasons and no desire to live in the States. But I do head down south on a regular basis to break up the winter.

[Monahammer]

Best livability out of nhl cities, one of the newest arenas in a couple of years, well known paths for NHL development for the kids, mid to low all in tax rate compared to all nhl cities...

I dont know guys. I think you're underselling our position and attractiveness.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Sharangovich is also having a terrible year, has a long term contract, and is older. I doubt that Buffalo value him that much.

I agree that Cozens has risk, but it's likely the right risk to take.

Calgary likely needs to take risk to get its #1 centre.

Sharangovich actually is shooting below his career shooting % while Cozens is right on mark for his career averages, with the big season being the outlier.

So, it could be 2 distressed assets being moved for each other. I wouldn't be adding much more as Cozens is likely going to be a winger going forward.

I also listened to the Conroy piece, RHS center is a priority, but he didn't say #1 of via trade it can be through the draft as well. Not sure if it's good to pigeonhole yourself to it has to be a RHS center. Lots of teams are lefty 1-4.

[Monahammer]

PS Buffalo is the team that's given out the least trade protection in the league. If players were really willing to trade things for trade protection, wouldn't buffalo potentially have the most?

Perhaps there's an alternate effect here where protection to stay in Buffalo is just undesirable and valueless lol.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Best livability out of nhl cities, one of the newest arenas in a couple of years, well known paths for NHL development for the kids, mid to low all in tax rate compared to all nhl cities...

I dont know guys. I think you're underselling our position and attractiveness.

I’ll be interested to see if Makar signs here. I don’t think it proves the argument one way or the other, but it will be interesting to see if (big if a lot can happen) the Flames are in position to sign him if he chooses to come home.

I don’t think it be a slam dunk. Probably closer to a three-pointer.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Trade protection is just about the city, it is the player having say over where they are traded.

Buffalo may have the most probably because players are hoping they get shipped out and will go anywhere. Buffalo may have been the only team offering a larger deal.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't know how much value Sharangovch has on his current contract. He has a clear pattern of producing at a $5 million clip every second season and any trade involving him would be a bad contract for bad contract kind of thing. Pelletier was passed on by every team at the beginning of the season so his value is minimal at best. Pospisil may have sneaky value because pests that can play are valued by a lot of teams.

Objectively one could say that the Sharangovch situation is slightly better than Cozens who had a breakout year, signed a $7M contract, and then regressed 40%. At least Sharangovch has a cheaper contract, 2 seasons of good scoring production, and his current lull could be attributed to his injury.

If Sharangovch is not that asset that the Sabres wants then I think Conroy needs to get to work on a 3-way trade to send Andersson to a contender, have that contender send the parts needed for the Sabres and Cozens to Calgary.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I just looked at Tampa and Vegas and they have 10 players with NTCs/NMCs each.

Didn’t St.Louis lose Pietriangelo, in part, due to them not agreeing to give him trade protection?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by zukes

Do me a favour. Go back through any teams' Top 10 prospects from every year, tell me how many of them actually become something. I'll wait.

The same thing can be said though about top 10 draft picks that many posters think is the only way to build a contender. Just sayin.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by traptor

Cozens has his own warts.

They're not getting a bonafide two-way top 6 forward that's locked up for him. And they need them locked up or they'll leave.

I guess they could package him with their own futures, but still whose going to trade that. I do wonder if the vancouver stuff is holding some of this up.

A player like sharangovich is probably the closest thing to that they could get.

I don't think Conroy has any interest in moving Sharangovich anyhow.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Frank on 960 this morning, says the Flames have nothing the Sabres would want and sees them as incompatible trade partners.

I do find it odd that Frank has noted, several times in the past, that the Flames are in on Cozens.

Feels like Conroy banging his head against a wall but what do I know.

Don’t think frank is wrong. They don’t want futures and rumours are they want a center back with leadership skills . No chance any flames are waiving to go there. I also have my doubts they need wingers or d men.

[Toonage]

^^ Steinberg said as much last night on the post game show (re: moving Sharangovich)

[Enoch Root]

Wanting a no-movement clause is more about the security of not having to worry if you're going to be traded all the time. Being able to feel like you can settle in and expect to stay in one place for multiple years.

Like someone said, VGS and TBL have 10 of them. Calgary has 8. EDM has 8. TOR has 10.

This isn't a location problem, it's a contract problem.

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1880085465208082536

[gvitaly]

Pelletier - Sharangovich - Kerins is already our 4th most productive line at even strength on the season with 9 points. I wouldn't be in any hurry to move Sharangovich! There's definitely more there.

Flames lines even strength:
Coleman - Backlund - Coronato: 27P, 281mins, +9
Huberdeau - Kadri - Pospisil: 25P, 225mins, +5
Huberdeau - Pospisil - Mantha: 10P, 62mins, +4
Kerins - Sharangovich - Pelletier: 9P, 30mins, +4
Zary - Backlund - Coleman: 8P, 99mins, +4
Pelletier - Zary - Sharangovich, 8P, 79mins, +2
...
Kuzmenko - Kadri - Pospisil: 1P, 99mins, -4
Lomberg - Rooney - Duehr: 0P, 70mins, -5

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by mile

https://twitter.com/user/status/1880085465208082536

Back to Buffalo in a 3-way trade?!?

[Ba'alzamon]

It figures that the dam finally broke on Sharangovich's shooting luck as soon as Zary got hurt.

[traptor]

Yeah I could see Conroy wanting to keep Sharan.

I do get the vibe that Conroy only wants to trade futures for these Center, but it doesn't seem like there's many teams interested in future deals.


I wonder how everyone will feel if we stay put at the deadline, lose our pick/miss playoffs this year and then stay put at the draft.

I get the vibe that is what might end up happening.