2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[CliffFletcher]

BUF needs an experienced, reliable two-way forward who can play in the top six and provide scoring without being a defensive liability. The Flames player who best fits that profile is Coleman. But unlikely he waives.

[Toonage]

Buffalo doesn't want futures. All the Flames have are futures. Just don't see how that gets done but Im curious to see what happens.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

BUF needs an experienced, reliable two-way forward who can play in the top six and provide scoring without being a defensive liability. The Flames player who best fits that profile is Coleman. But unlikely he waives.

Originally Posted by Toonage

Buffalo doesn't want futures. All the Flames have are futures. Just don't see how that gets done but Im curious to see what happens.

Exactly.

Buffalo would be looking for one of two things, I suspect.

1) two way forward who can play top six now.

2) see above, player with contract control.

The Flames, arguably, have two of these players named Connor Zary and smart Coronato. Buffalo might not get that, but I bet that’s their ask.

Otherwise, it’s one of Coleman or Kadri + some future asset to offset the age gap, maybe Buffalo adds as well to balance. Problem, obviously, is I strongly suspect neither player accepts a move to Buffalo.

[traptor]

Buffalo can qant a two way forward top 6 forward whose 25 and under control, but that doesn't necessarily mean a team is going to give that up for Cozens.

Maybe they can get someone like Frost or Jt miller I guess.

But I do think sharangovch,pelletier or pospisil + something futures should hold some value.

They can always flip the futures into another player they want.

[Erick Estrada]

I don't know how much value Sharangovch has on his current contract. He has a clear pattern of producing at a $5 million clip every second season and any trade involving him would be a bad contract for bad contract kind of thing. Pelletier was passed on by every team at the beginning of the season so his value is minimal at best. Pospisil may have sneaky value because pests that can play are valued by a lot of teams.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't know how much value Sharangovch has on his current contract. He has a clear pattern of producing at a $5 million clip every second season and any trade involving him would be a bad contract for bad contract kind of thing. Pelletier was passed on by every team at the beginning of the season so his value is minimal at best. Pospisil may have sneaky value because pests that can play are valued by a lot of teams.

Agree on Pelletier. I don’t think he moves the needle, much. Truthfully, every team in the league probably has a guy like this, or even a few.

Posposil is intriguing but I think the injury history is going to be concerning to every team in the league.

[Toonage]

Frank on 960 this morning, says the Flames have nothing the Sabres would want and sees them as incompatible trade partners.

I do find it odd that Frank has noted, several times in the past, that the Flames are in on Cozens.

Feels like Conroy banging his head against a wall but what do I know.

[Monahammer]

Nothing the sabres want (that will accept a trade to the sabres, at least).

We have given out far too many trade protections.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Nothing the sabres want (that will accept a trade to the sabres, at least).

We have given out far too many trade protections.

Doubled edged sword.

You don’t give trade protections, you’re either paying more, or losing players/unable to attract them.

Trade protections is the cost of doing business if you’re a small Canadian market.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Doubled edged sword.

You don’t give trade protections, you’re either paying more, or losing players/unable to attract them.

Trade protections is the cost of doing business if you’re a small Canadian market.

Exactly. And they aren't given out. They are negotiated.

[traptor]

Cozens has his own warts.

They're not getting a bonafide two-way top 6 forward that's locked up for him. And they need them locked up or they'll leave.

I guess they could package him with their own futures, but still whose going to trade that. I do wonder if the vancouver stuff is holding some of this up.

A player like sharangovich is probably the closest thing to that they could get.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Well Buffalo will probably have to soften their demands, most likely why no deal with Detroit was done. The team trading for Cozens is assuming all the risk with that big contract for an underperforming player whose numbers suggest this may be who he is.

So Sharangovich isn't worthless in an offer. They are not getting a 1st top prospect and roster player.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

We have given out far too many trade protections.

Calgary also wants to field a team.

You seem to think they are given out without thought, like a candy bar. for participating.

Calgary likely signs no material UFA without them.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Well Buffalo will probably have to soften their demands, most likely why no deal with Detroit was done. The team trading for Cozens is assuming all the risk with that big contract for an underperforming player whose numbers suggest this may be who he is.

So Sharangovich isn't worthless in an offer. They are not getting a 1st top prospect and roster player.

Sharangovich is also having a terrible year, has a long term contract, and is older. I doubt that Buffalo value him that much.

I agree that Cozens has risk, but it's likely the right risk to take.

Calgary likely needs to take risk to get its #1 centre.

[Monahammer]

Calgary is the 5th best place to live in the world according to the economist. Why do you all have such little faith in the actual city? Blake Coleman, notable recent UFA signing, can be quoted as choosing us for at least partially that reason.

Why are you all so pessimistic?

What team do you feel has given out the least trade protection?

[traptor]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Sharangovich is also having a terrible year, has a long term contract, and is older. I doubt that Buffalo value him that much.

I agree that Cozens has risk, but it's likely the right risk to take.

Calgary likely needs to take risk to get its #1 centre.

It wouldn't be straight across. Calgary would need to sweeten the deal forsure. But it still gives them a forward with over 300 gps capable of 30goals and playing pk/pp coming back.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Calgary is the 5th best place to live in the world according to the economist. Why do you all have such little faith in the actual city? Blake Coleman, notable recent UFA signing, can be quoted as choosing us for at least partially that reason.

Why are you all so pessimistic?

What team do you feel has given out the least trade protection?

I think you may be confusing life as an average person versus life as a millionaire.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Calgary is the 5th best place to live in the world according to the economist. Why do you all have such little faith in the actual city? Blake Coleman, notable recent UFA signing, can be quoted as choosing us for at least partially that reason.

Why are you all so pessimistic?

What team do you feel has given out the least trade protection?

Calgary is a great place to live as a normal person. It is not an exciting place to live as a multimillionaire athlete.

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by Ashes

it definitely sounds like Buffalo has no interest or need for defensemen

In other words, the Sabres are unable to identify their extremely obvious, crippling organizational weakness.

Their top five defenders by TOI/game are all lefties lol (one of them has only played 3 games though, so I guess he doesn't count). Their two righties are Jokiharju and Clifton, who are terrible.

No wonder they've been unable to hoist themselves out of the basement all these years.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Calgary is the 5th best place to live in the world according to the economist. Why do you all have such little faith in the actual city? Blake Coleman, notable recent UFA signing, can be quoted as choosing us for at least partially that reason.

Why are you all so pessimistic?

What team do you feel has given out the least trade protection?

Calgary is a great place to live, that’s not the discussion though and it may not mean anything to a certain percentage of players or people. You know what other City’s consistently rank high on those surveys? Toronto and Vancouver. That said, I know, personally as I’m sure you do as well, many people who wouldn’t have much of an appetite to live there.

Interesting you point out Coleman here. He has trade protection and I would bet trade protection was a negotiated part of his contract. If the Flames didn’t include it, they certainly would have had to add term and/or dollars and even if they did, Coleman may have signed with another team that did offer him trade protection.