2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[dammage79]

1st, pops and Poirier. That sounds good to me.

[Vinny01]

If Buffalo really wants a 1st back I have a hard time providing any more positive value in that package. NJ 1st+Kuzmenko+11-15th ranked prospect in the org today

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dammage79

1st, pops and Poirier. That sounds good to me.

That is a little steep but I could get behind that. Cozens is a risk but one that checks a lot of boxes for the Flames

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by zukes

I don't get the trade Andersson stuff either. He is a low end #1 or high end #2 defenseman in the league. 100% a top pairing defenseman (meaning probably between 20-50th best defenseman in the league). He is 27 all year this year. His contract would kick in before his 29th birthday. He is not a big bruising lumbering defenseman. Defenseman also age better than forwards in many cases and can change their game to suit their diminishing offensive skills.

I would love a 6 year contract as even at 34 and 35 I see him still being at the very least useful, if not still very good.

Trading him for a package of magic beans might produce another Andersson, or it can turn into the Iginla return.

To me, when you have a player that is good, says he wants to be here, works in your system, seems to be the type that will age well and thus be relevant when we are potentially a contender, you SIGN that player to an extension!

He wont be the right age into our contention window baring a miracle. Our contention window will best case start in 3-4 year, and be serious between 5-7 years from now.

He will be early to mid 30's as we start to contend. While this isn't 'that' old for a D, it is an age where a lot of players start to see regression. You could easily have a #4 or #5 D out of him by then.

That is why you trade him. In 4 years if you are starting to contend you can trade for the next Anderson from a team entering their rebuild cycle.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by traptor

I could see it being njd 1st + pospisil + something smaller.

Hes the one player that I could see the flames thinking is expendable and doesnt have trade protection that the sabres would be very interested in.

Unless they're willing to move rasmus

No way Andersson wants to go to the Sabres. I think it is a safe bet that the Sabres are on his 6 team NTC.

If Andersson needs to be moved to make a Cozens trade possible then it would need to be a 3-way trade with a contender.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Adding Nemec isn't the worst idea, adds to a position of strength and we can make a 1 for 1 trade for another forward prospect that fits our window.

If you and get 2 1sts for Andersson or even 1 you can stomach sending a 1st for Nemec.

[Monahammer]

NJ 1st+Andersson for Byram and Cozens still sounds super nice to me.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Do you think anyone is going to waive to go to Buffalo?

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If Buffalo really wants a 1st back I have a hard time providing any more positive value in that package. NJ 1st+Kuzmenko+11-15th ranked prospect in the org today

Kuzmenko and the 10-15 ranked prospect likely has negative value.

I'm guessing that can do better than a late first.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by zukes

I don't get the trade Andersson stuff either. He is a low end #1 or high end #2 defenseman in the league. 100% a top pairing defenseman (meaning probably between 20-50th best defenseman in the league). He is 27 all year this year. His contract would kick in before his 29th birthday. He is not a big bruising lumbering defenseman. Defenseman also age better than forwards in many cases and can change their game to suit their diminishing offensive skills.

I would love a 6 year contract as even at 34 and 35 I see him still being at the very least useful, if not still very good.

Trading him for a package of magic beans might produce another Andersson, or it can turn into the Iginla return.

To me, when you have a player that is good, says he wants to be here, works in your system, seems to be the type that will age well and thus be relevant when we are potentially a contender, you SIGN that player to an extension!

One slight issue with your post is you took a full year off Rasmus’s age. He turned 28 at the end of October and will turn 30 less than a month into his first season with the extension.

[Royle9]

Buffalo is believed to be on Andersson's "no" list
He wants to win, not be moved to the pits of depression so I doubt he's part of any package.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by zukes

I don't get the trade Andersson stuff either. He is a low end #1 or high end #2 defenseman in the league. 100% a top pairing defenseman (meaning probably between 20-50th best defenseman in the league). He is 27 all year this year. His contract would kick in before his 29th birthday. He is not a big bruising lumbering defenseman. Defenseman also age better than forwards in many cases and can change their game to suit their diminishing offensive skills.

I would love a 6 year contract as even at 34 and 35 I see him still being at the very least useful, if not still very good.

Trading him for a package of magic beans might produce another Andersson, or it can turn into the Iginla return.

To me, when you have a player that is good, says he wants to be here, works in your system, seems to be the type that will age well and thus be relevant when we are potentially a contender, you SIGN that player to an extension!

But are you willing to go 8 years at $8M?

Saying signing him but also saying 6 years is likley not going to do it.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I'm guessing that can do better than a late first.

I don't really agree. Late 1st plus a B prospect or something is what I am guessing he will go for if he is traded and they take futures. His contract is bad and so is his defensive play.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Kuzmenko and the 10-15 ranked prospect likely has negative value.

I'm guessing that can do better than a late first.

Not sure how a prospect and an expiring contract have negative value? You could be right about the return but going from 68pts to 47pts to pace for 41pts and a $7+M cap hit for many years how does Cozens have strong value?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Do you think anyone is going to waive to go to Buffalo?

Nope and they are going to be on pretty much any player's list with a NTC

[traptor]

Players that the Sabres might be interested in that don't have trade protection on the flames:

Non-starters: Zary, Coronato, Wolf

Maybes: Sharangovich, Bahl, Pospisil
I think the flames are starting to see Bahl as a key piece going forward. Pospisil or Sharangovich make the most sense. I'd give the edge to Pospisil

Other options: Pachal, Miromanov, Bean, Pelletier
Can't really see them being interested in this group right now, other then as a throw in.

[Vinny01]

I would gladly swap Sharangovich for Cozens but was told Buffalo only needs centers when I proposed that days ago

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by traptor

Players that the Sabres might be interested in that don't have trade protection on the flames:

Non-starters: Zary, Coronato, Wolf

Maybes: Sharangovich, Bahl, Pospisil
I think the flames are starting to see Bahl as a key piece going forward. Pospisil or Sharangovich make the most sense. I'd give the edge to Pospisil

Other options: Pachal, Miromanov, Bean, Pelletier
Can't really see them being interested in this group right now, other then as a throw in.

I think that Bahl is untradable.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Redrum

I wouldn't give any one of those for that contract.

I think Pauline walnuts just made a friend.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I would gladly swap Sharangovich for Cozens but was told Buffalo only needs centers when I proposed that days ago

Sharangovich can play center lol but it is also why I don't think the Sabres actually trade Cozens. They traded Middlestadt last year to give Cozens the #2C spot and don't have anyone else ready to step in.