Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Hey Matlock, they went to the same high school. Do you have some photos of them posing happily for the camera and smiling? You know imagine the Trump and Epstein and Maxwell pose, the holy trinity of rapists, child sex offenders, and underage sex traffickers.

I would imagine given the amount of people out to get Trump, if he had any connection to Epstein's illegal matters, you darn well bet it would be out in public.

Having said that if being photographed is all it takes to raise suspicion then we must certianly hold carbon tax carney to the same standard.

Most likely it's all a big nothing burger on both accounts.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Just let him roll on. At 100 posts a day, there's much higher chance he'll slip up and be banned finally lol

Oh i am sure they're out to get me but so far i've only been dinged for calling myself stupid lol.

Mel plays by the rules.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Having said that if being photographed is all it takes to raise suspicion then we must certianly hold carbon tax carney to the same standard.

Spoiler!

This is Trudeau next to a convicted felon, rapist, sex offender, suspected sex trafficker, and Putin ally. I suppose Trudeau is involved in all that #### too, using your own comprehensive and rigorous approach to forensic image analysis?

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Muta

Spoiler!

This is Trudeau next to a convicted felon, rapist, sex offender, suspected sex trafficker, and Putin ally. I suppose Trudeau is involved in all that #### too, using your own comprehensive and rigorous approach to forensic image analysis?

Are we playing make believe lol?

s T r A w M aN

You need a sense of humor brah

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

I would imagine given the amount of people out to get Trump, if he had any connection to Epstein's illegal matters, you darn well bet it would be out in public.

Having said that if being photographed is all it takes to raise suspicion then we must certianly hold carbon tax carney to the same standard.

Most likely it's all a big nothing burger on both accounts.

I mean Trump wished Ghislaine Maxwell well in a live interview AFTER everything had come out. They were all good pals.

Its the company you keep.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Are we playing make believe lol?

s T r A w M aN

Right? Who knew images could actually have context, instead of what you see and make biased judgements about. What a mind-bending concept!

[fotze2]

You guys still going? I got got orange wedges and Super Socco if needed.s

[Muta]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

You need a sense of humor brah

There's absolutely nothing funny about rape, sex trafficking, misogyny, treason, and breaking the law. But you do you Mel, keep it up.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I mean Trump wished Ghislaine Maxwell well in a live interview AFTER everything had come out. They were all good pals.

Its the company you keep.

Yes cause innocent until proven guilty is actually still a thing and a good thing, we don't live in a banana republic.

Fake outrage.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Muta

There's absolutely nothing funny about rape, sex trafficking, misogyny, treason, and breaking the law. But you do you Mel, keep it up.

You are correct sir.

But don't misrepresent what i mean't pal, that's highly disingenuous.

Night all.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

But don't misrepresent what i mean't pal, that's highly disingenuous.

Oh don't worry, you did that all yourself.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Dammit, how did I end up in Firebot trap? I'm out. I've made my points, hopefully clear enough.

You’ve had 56 posts today. If you haven’t made your points yet, it’s time to throw in the towel.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Muta

Oh don't worry, you did that all yourself.

Wasn’t he just running around calling people misogynists for criticizing Smith? Now he’s criticizing Ardern and joking about rape?

Yikes.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Yes cause innocent until proven guilty is actually still a thing and a good thing, we don't live in a banana republic.

Fake outrage.

Well two points, Trump knew of Epstein's love of underage girls, he joked about it years before and Maxwell used to recruit girls out of Mar a Lago, so again no way he wasn't aware but even if you want to engage in fantasy normal people don't wish sex offenders well, you might not advocate hanging them but you don't wish them well, it's just not one of those crimes you can ignore, unless you think ####ing teenagers when you are in your 60's is fine, you know one of the privileges of being wealthy, then you would wish your pederast friends well

[SebC]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

gay marriage abortion ect ect, nowhere near right wing, whoever thinks that is just moving the goal posts because they themselves have drifted to far left

This post is an unintentional masterpiece. A conservative complaining unironically about goal posts moving.

Moving the goalposts is the pretty much the entire point of human civilization. To make things better, aim higher, achieve more. We invest in capital and technology to move the goal posts. Scientists, artists, philosophers, businessmen, and civil rights advocates all seek to build on what has come before.

The government should provide security -> security includes health -> health includes dental and drug coverage -> well actually people need homes and money too

The king makes the law -> non-indigenous men get to vote -> non-indigenous people get to vote -> people get to vote

Imagine if we had stopped our progress earlier at any time in the past because what was once radical became normal. I'm proud to be a goalpost mover.

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by SebC

This post is an unintentional masterpiece. A conservative complaining unironically about goal posts moving.

Moving the goalposts is the pretty much the entire point of human civilization. To make things better, aim higher, achieve more. We invest in capital and technology to move the goal posts. Scientists, artists, philosophers, businessmen, and civil rights advocates all seek to build on what has come before.

The government should provide security -> security includes health -> health includes dental and drug coverage -> well actually people need homes and money too

The king makes the law -> non-indigenous men get to vote -> non-indigenous people get to vote -> people get to vote

Imagine if we had stopped our progress earlier at any time in the past because what was once radical became normal. I'm proud to be a goalpost mover.

Venezuela, is that you?

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

The governor of the bank must still be appointed one way or the other. I'm not sure I would agree on general on many of PPs ideas with regards to the bank. I do however think he believes that the governor should be non partisan.

As for there being no conflict for Carney, that is quite correct. However if Carney sets a precedent that it's okay for bank governors to consider this a career path, there is certainly conflict for upcoming governors.

Carney is a professional, as you say. But he's also a much more extreme ideologue than you would think from his outward demeanor.

Carney I really think is the exception as opposed to the rule. I have followed his career in some ways for about 20 years, which is shocking to me when I say that out loud considering I was into this stuff as a teenager. He was kinda the key point man for Finance Canada on a few important files like selling the remaining stake in Petro Canada for the Paul Martin government.

He was discussed as a very smart and ambitious leader and was elevated in importance by Harper to eventually become BOC Gov. I have read and heard plenty that Conservatives gush over him back then and touted as a Harper replacement but his love of the environment and how to deal with it was the deal breaker for both sides. I will admit as a Conservative myself and someone in finance I really admired the guy.

Carney kind of had a rockstar quality to him in global finance that just doesn't really happen to central bank governors. I can only really recall Alan Greenspan from the US Fed getting wild press outside of his actual role. Who he dated, what he ate and drank, people quoting him randomly, it was crazy. Other's in the Fed, the BOC, the ECB are kinda blah. You can't envision them PM's or Presidents to the same degree. Former ECB Pres. Mario Draghi did become Italy's PM for a while but Italy changes PM's almost yearly it seems so that was a given I guess.

Carney got all sorts of attention for his looks, his suits, his love of hockey, his thoughts on everything in major publications. He was being talked about everywhere! Look at even this thread, this is a guy who is stirring debate amongst everybody. I just don't see many scenarios where a Tiff Macklem, Stephen Poloz are running the country.

I am kinda torn in some ways. I think Carney would be great for Canada from an economic perspective potentially but I am also very cautious on how certain topics like the environment are discussed

[BoLevi]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Carney I really think is the exception as opposed to the rule. I have followed his career in some ways for about 20 years, which is shocking to me when I say that out loud considering I was into this stuff as a teenager. He was kinda the key point man for Finance Canada on a few important files like selling the remaining stake in Petro Canada for the Paul Martin government.

He was discussed as a very smart and ambitious leader and was elevated in importance by Harper to eventually become BOC Gov. I have read and heard plenty that Conservatives gush over him back then and touted as a Harper replacement but his love of the environment and how to deal with it was the deal breaker for both sides. I will admit as a Conservative myself and someone in finance I really admired the guy.

Carney kind of had a rockstar quality to him in global finance that just doesn't really happen to central bank governors. I can only really recall Alan Greenspan from the US Fed getting wild press outside of his actual role. Who he dated, what he ate and drank, people quoting him randomly, it was crazy. Other's in the Fed, the BOC, the ECB are kinda blah. You can't envision them PM's or Presidents to the same degree. Former ECB Pres. Mario Draghi did become Italy's PM for a while but Italy changes PM's almost yearly it seems so that was a given I guess.

Carney got all sorts of attention for his looks, his suits, his love of hockey, his thoughts on everything in major publications. He was being talked about everywhere! Look at even this thread, this is a guy who is stirring debate amongst everybody. I just don't see many scenarios where a Tiff Macklem, Stephen Poloz are running the country.

I am kinda torn in some ways. I think Carney would be great for Canada from an economic perspective potentially but I am also very cautious on how certain topics like the environment are discussed

Greenspan will be looked upon as a an unmitigated disaster by history. Draghi the same.

Volcker and Bernanke were also pretty famous.

Perhaps Carney's celebrity got to him, and he started to follow a path of self indulgence. It all went to his head and he lost sight of the practicalities of economies and the foibles of humans that will always be a limitation. His pivot to an environmental crusader is completely incompatible with good economic policy, as we have seen. People can't feed their kids with platitudes about externalities. If we are going to alter the course of climate change it is not going to look anything like what Mark Carney thinks it should.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

you mad bro? just the interwebs loooozzzzzz

Money is always earned by someone.

Even when you sit at home and cash those goverment cheques, someone earned that, you didn't, some did.

Money well wasted.

Interesting perspective

Sitting at home and cashing those dividend cheques, someone earned that, you didn’t.

Money well wasted.

[Fuzz]

Watched the Carney Stewart interview. Mark is going to wipe the floor with PP in a debate. Dude is sharp and knows what to say. I think once Canadians get to know him there are gonna be a lot of voters comparing him to PP, and it's not gonna look good. Dude has the financial chops to shred PP's three word slogans to pieces. Really worth watching if you don't know much about him right now.