2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...e-uncertainty/

So it sounds to me like the Flames are exploring moving Andersson, rather than Andersson wanting to be traded

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

So it sounds to me like the Flames are exploring moving Andersson, rather than Andersson wanting to be traded

Believe what you want to believe, my guy.

[stemit14]

I know there’s lots of season left, but it’s looking more and more like the Kings will face the Oilers in the first round once again. What do they need to beat the oilers this year? Do they already have it in Kuemper playing well and Byfield gaining steam throughout the season?

Just wondering if they will be in the market for something and can the flames help facilitate that? The flames can act as a 3rd party to retain salary if necessary. And they have tradeable players of value as well. What do we have to do to get the oilers out in the first round?

[heep223]

He’s probably my favourite flame right now, and I believe the best move unfortunately is to move him. He’s going to want and he deserves first pairing money but the team’s timeline doesn’t line up with his. The teams that are perennially good make these kinds of tough decisions.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I know there’s lots of season left, but it’s looking more and more like the Kings will face the Oilers in the first round once again. What do they need to beat the oilers this year? Do they already have it in Kuemper playing well and Byfield gaining steam throughout the season?

Just wondering if they will be in the market for something and can the flames help facilitate that? The flames can act as a 3rd party to retain salary if necessary. And they have tradeable players of value as well. What do we have to do to get the oilers out in the first round?

Kings need to piss or get off the pot here. Being a free square on the playoff bingo card every season is not cool

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Kings need to piss or get off the pot here. Being a free square on the playoff bingo card every season is not cool

Agreed. But what do they need to beat them? I will say the oilers are a team seemingly designed to be easier and easier to beat as the playoffs go on. They play their top players a crazy amount of minutes so they get worn down. And they rely heavily on their powerplay. The first round sees tons of powerplays - maybe even more than typical regular season games but then fewer and fewer powerplays are called as the playoffs go along.

What is the anti-Oiler piece that LA needs to beat them in the first round? I personally think they could use more scoring and/or a 2nd/3rd line centre that has strong possession numbers. They also need Doughty back and at the top of his game.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Agreed. But what do they need to beat them? I will say the oilers are a team seemingly designed to be easier and easier to beat as the playoffs go on. They play their top players a crazy amount of minutes so they get worn down. And they rely heavily on their powerplay. The first round sees tons of powerplays - maybe even more than typical regular season games but then fewer and fewer powerplays are called as the playoffs go along.

What is the anti-Oiler piece that LA needs to beat them in the first round? I personally think they could use more scoring and/or a 2nd/3rd line centre that has strong possession numbers. They also need Doughty back and at the top of his game.

One thing they need is steadier goaltending.

Quick was the best one they had but he went back and fourth from good game to bad game. Korpisalo was ass for most the series, and Talbot wasn't much better. Rittich was fine in the 1-0 loss but wasn't good the last game.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Inferno

One thing they need is steadier goaltending.

Quick was the best one they had but he went back and fourth from good game to bad game. Korpisalo was ass for most the series, and Talbot wasn't much better. Rittich was fine in the 1-0 loss but wasn't good the last game.

Not sure his record against the oilers but Vladar might be a good fit as a backup. Kuemper is looking really good this year so it looks like they should have better goaltending but the playoffs are a different beast for goaltenders. It’s amazing how many good regular season goalies turn into poor goaltenders in the playoffs.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by stemit14

not sure his record against the oilers but vladar might be a good fit as a backup.

3-2
2.48 gaa
.921 sv%

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Inferno

3-2
2.48 gaa
.921 sv%

Good numbers. Would be a good fit for LA.

But I feel LA can’t stop at just a backup goalie. They need to make a push to get past the oilers.

Doubt they have the assets for it but something like T.J. Miller would be a good target for them. Use their LTIR space from Doughty to get him now, fix any cap issues in the summer. Miller and Petterson are the only top line scoring forwards available in most trade boards but I don’t think LA can pull off what’s needed to get either of them.

Might have to go for something depth-oriented like Trent Frederic from Boston. He could be a good fit.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I really think the flames are a 5-6 game rough stretch from having a clearer picture.

I think the next 21 games have a lot of opportunities for the Flames to drop in the standings.

We have more road games than home games (and we are bad on the road).
We have more back to backs than elsewhere in the schedule.
We are playing some tougher competition - if you add up the number of playoff teams over the next ~22 games (especially on the road).

The toughest segments of the schedule will be the road trip next week and the 6 game road trip right before the trade deadline against the Capitals, Lightning, Panthers, Hurricane, Flyers, and Stars. (I think most people would expect us to go 1-5 on that trip.)

I can understand why Conroy would wait to see how things play out.

[Nelson]

Yesterday, Darren Dreger’s appearance on Barn Burner included the following:

(1) At 45:09-46:27, Darren thinks things remain to be seen. But today, Conroy would lean towards keeping Andersson at the TDL, because he believes the Flames have “the guts, the nucleus of a group that can win” (45:27). However, there’s a great debate within the Flames, about the direction the team should be headed.

(2) At 47:19-48:29, in the context of Boomer suggesting the Flames might be able to get a lot for Andersson, Dreger talks about a hypothetical big return for Andersson. He suggests a big return of a 1st + Fraser Minten/Easton Cowan + eating Nic Robertson. (He is not talking about a rumoured trade, but he is giving his perception of what a big trade for Andersson would look like.)

[Paulie Walnuts]

Easter Cowan ####ing sucks and the Toronto 1st will be mid 20s plus a cap dump ? wtf is he smoking.

If that’s his idea of a big package I’d just walk Andersson to free agency.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Easter Cowan ####ing sucks and the Toronto 1st will be mid 20s plus a cap dump ? wtf is he smoking.

If that’s his idea of a big package I’d just walk Andersson to free agency.

Think you might need a reality check.

First of all, who is offering more? If Dreger’s assessment is accurate, what team is beating that? How do you know?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Think you might need a reality check.

First of all, who is offering more? If Dreger’s assessment is accurate, what team is beating that? How do you know?

Plenty of teams can beat Cowan. He sucks. I’m sorry I know the Toronto media wants to hype up some local kid being some superstar but he’s nothing special.

I don’t think a cap dump is a big package. We got a lot more for Lindholm. This is a signed player surely we can do better.

Not surprising it’s Dreger trying to pump up a trade with Toronto and over value their crappy assets.

I also think the hatred for Treliving is real we won’t be helping Toronto.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Plenty of teams can beat Cowan. He sucks. I’m sorry I know the Toronto media wants to hype up some local kid being some superstar but he’s nothing special.

I don’t think a cap dump is a big package. We got a lot more for Lindholm. This is a signed player surely we can do better.

Not surprising it’s Dreger trying to pump up a trade with Toronto and over value their crappy assets.

I also think the hatred for Treliving is real we won’t be helping Toronto.

Sure, return for Lindholm has been seen as a ‘win’ but you could easily make the argument that the returns for Tanev, Markstrom, Hanifin were ‘adequate’.

I’m go out on a limb and say, rightly or wrongly, Andersson won’t be traded this year. So it’s a moot point this year, but in a year from now, a late first (likely going to a contender) and another asset in the Miromano/Grushnikov tier doesn’t seem that far off the mark. Perhaps there’s another pick in there.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Sure, return for Lindholm has been seen as a ‘win’ but you could easily make the argument that the returns for Tanev, Markstrom, Hanifin were ‘adequate’.

I’m go out on a limb and say, rightly or wrongly, Andersson won’t be traded this year. So it’s a moot point this year, but in a year from now, a late first (likely going to a contender) and another asset in the Miromano/Grushnikov tier doesn’t seem that far off the mark. Perhaps there’s another pick in there.

Ok well maybe that’s why our values are off. I’m talking deadline now or the draft.

Also if we go from talking A prospect and 1st not Cowan but think a Helnius from Buffalo to a freaking Miromanov and 1st or 2nd round pick I think we can start to question the skills of Conory. That is feaster level asset management.

[Vinny01]

The only chance Andersson is moved this year is in a deal that will leave all of us extremely pleased. I see no way Conroy is moving him before the summer with the team being in the race. Andersson clearly has not asked to be moved at this time so the only chance he does get traded is if Conroy gets an offer he can’t refuse.

They will talk on locker clean out day and hopefully Andersson will advise he is not looking to sign an extension and can be dealt at the draft.

[Harry Lime]

After watching a bit of Cowan at the WJC, he seems like a puckhog, and that's how he puts up points. If you can't use your teammates, you are not going to have success as a professional.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Not sure his record against the oilers but Vladar might be a good fit as a backup. Kuemper is looking really good this year so it looks like they should have better goaltending but the playoffs are a different beast for goaltenders. It’s amazing how many good regular season goalies turn into poor goaltenders in the playoffs.

Kuemper managed to win a Stanley Cup.

Rittich is likely a better back up than Vladar. HIs career stats are very much better and has been a starter.

It's not like Vladar has been a playoff warrior. He has 2 mop up games, allowing 3 goals on 22 shots.