2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[traptor]

Dach + CGY 2025 1st for Rasmus.

Who says no?

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Problem with moving him at the draft is that is when draft picks are at their highest value. GMs want to make picks at that point. Between now and the TDL is when the picks are valued less and the players are valued more.

And then player value goes up on UFA day when teams have more cap space and can shape their team for the upcoming season.

If Andersson communicates now that he is open to a trade then moving him at the 2025 deadline would be great value for the Flames.

Otherwise, I would ignore the draft trade scenario and wait for July 1st. At that point either you sign him to the extension or trade him to a contender that wants an excellent value on a great D with an option to extend right away. (That would also be a great time for the Flames use a retention slot to get a bigger return.)

Moving him at the 2026 trade deadline would not be as ideal. At that point you are either getting a rental return or maybe a sign-and-trade. Either way I think the 2025 trade scenarios yeild a better return.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by traptor

Dach + CGY 2025 1st for Rasmus.

Who says no?

I think Montreal probably says no. They don’t really need to add to their defence at this point - their prospect and organizational depth at that position is as deep or deeper than Calgary’s.

[stemit14]

While I do think it’s best for Calgary long term to trade Andersson, I also understand that it’s a tough trade for the team. He’s obviously a leader on the team and a big voice in the room. Would likely be a devastating blow to the team to trade him right now. It’s one thing if a player like him has made it clear he wants to be traded but when the team is in the thick of a playoff hunt and it seems like a tight-knit group, it could really be tough on the team. I can understand a reluctance from management to trade him without more certainty of where the team will finish this year.

I really think the flames are a 5-6 game rough stretch from having a clearer picture.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Don't think the standings should matter this year, the long term is what we should be focused on.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Don't think the standings should matter this year, the long term is what we should be focused on.

It matters to CGY. And they'll hang onto trying to keep him until the last possible moment as they always do. So next year's TDL.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Possibly but I think in that case teams will push for the trade to be picks in the 2026 draft - which I’m fine with. It’s just becoming more and more rare for players to be traded for picks in the days leading up to the draft or on draft day. It does happen but it’s more rare than it used to be.

Certainly that has been the trend recently but I wonder if this year might be different.

Listening to 32 (or maybe it was DFO) this morning the question came up ‘how many teams are legitimately out of it at this point’? The answer was Chicago, for sure, and maybe 3-4 more.

The playoff race in both conferences is pretty tight. If this holds there are going to be teams that miss by a point or two, or on a tie-break. Leads me to question, are those teams or some of them going to be aggressive this offseason to bolster their roster for next year. Even if the Flames give up their pick to MTL, might they still be able to get into the top 10 after all?

[saillias]

Originally Posted by TOfan

The thing that I find most interesting around the trade discussions and Andersson is none of the big boys (for lack of a better term) have spoken, at all, about Andersson being in the block. I’ve yet to hear/read anything from Friedman, Serivalli, CJ, Lebrun, etc. on Andersson even being available. I haven’t seen Andersson on one trade board.

In fact, I’ve heard the opposite from Stienberg saying, repeatedly, that he thinks the Flames keeping a homegrown guy as something he thinks the Flames should (want?) to do.

Respectfully homegrown is no longer relevant once they hit their UFA years. The core he was part of and group he developed with has been dismantled including his own former Stockton teammates Kylington and Mangiapane

I don't want to be too mean but damn Steinberg didn't think the logic of that one

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Don't think the standings should matter this year, the long term is what we should be focused on.

Agreed. I wonder if trading Andersson could be a real tipping point for the direction of the team from the management perspective. While the flames have traded several players over the last couple years (Zadorov, Toffoli, Lindholm and Hanifin), I don’t think any of them are as much of a leader in the room as Andersson. He very well could have been named captain a couple years ago. Trading him could disrupt the room and make other vets get frustrated and want out themselves. That would lead to a complete rebuild down to the studs. A different direction than what management is likely planning right now.

If the flames drop out of playoff contention and Andersson ends up saying he wants to move on, I think it’s a different story. The other vets on the team would likely be more understanding of an Andersson trade at that point.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Brad Marchand responds to a radio personality in Boston reporting there is a rift between Marchand and Pastrnak and that Pastrnak has requested not to be put on the same line as Marchand.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1877803801395986503

Link to the radio segment:
https://www.audacy.com/weei/sports/b...medium=twitter

edit; Pastrnak also responded

https://twitter.com/user/status/1877807417947296015

Between the clip and his twitter, the scooper is exactly how I imagine most M#######s are.

Who knows if it's real or not, but man, it does feel like someone just put a Bruins skin on the Vancouver drama

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dammage79

It matters to CGY. And they'll hang onto trying to keep him until the last possible moment as they always do. So next year's TDL.

They traded Zadorov and Lindholm early last season...not sure why posters want them to come out and say they are desperate for a trade

[Braden]

Originally Posted by stemit14

While the flames have traded several players over the last couple years (Zadorov, Toffoli, Lindholm and Hanifin), I don’t think any of them are as much of a leader in the room as Andersson.

By all accounts Tanev was a leader though and they seemed to carry on fine without him

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dino7c

They traded Zadorov and Lindholm early last season...not sure why posters want them to come out and say they are desperate for a trade

Zadorov requested a trade publicly and the Canucks overpaid for Lindholm.

If fans want the Flames to make a deal soon need to hope a desperate GM steps up to the plate with an offer Conny can’t refuse

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Brad Marchand responds to a radio personality in Boston reporting there is a rift between Marchand and Pastrnak and that Pastrnak has requested not to be put on the same line as Marchand.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1877803801395986503

Link to the radio segment:
https://www.audacy.com/weei/sports/b...medium=twitter

edit; Pastrnak also responded

https://twitter.com/user/status/1877807417947296015

I haven't listened to a lot of Marchand over the last few years, but he seems to have matured quite a bit. Maybe it's media training and coaching on this issue, but he comes across pretty legitimate--and also acknowledged that the team hasn't been good enough.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Zadorov requested a trade publicly and the Canucks overpaid for Lindholm.

If fans want the Flames to make a deal soon need to hope a desperate GM steps up to the plate with an offer Conny can’t refuse

that is the point....fans get all bent outta shape about Conroy saying he wants to see how things go since they are 1 point out. Like I would love to play poker with some of you, what else would he say? We are desperate to make trades!!

Conroy told Vancouver they didn't want to move Lindholm because they were close in the standings so...Vancouver upped their offer.

"They do everything they can to come in 8th every year!"
Yeah that's why they have multiple firsts the next two drafts

[sureLoss]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...e-uncertainty/

Rasmus Andersson wants to remain a Calgary Flame.

For the rest of this season, next season and hopefully beyond.

But it’s not that simple.

He admitted as much Friday in a quiet one-on-one with Sportsnet.

“I love playing here and I’ve always loved playing here and that’s never going to change,” said the Flames defenceman.

“I hate the Oilers, I hate the Canucks and that’s just the way I am.

“Of course I would love to stay here, but I’ve heard from everyone else who has been in my situation that it’s a business.

"So we’ll see what happens.”

[SuperMatt18]

If that Boston stuff is true then Pettersson for Pastrnak would be a really interesting trade TBH.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

If that Boston stuff is true then Pettersson for Pastrnak would be a really interesting trade TBH.

My BS monitor listening to Marchand and Pastrnak talk about it, was pretty low. Not that my personal BS monitor means anything, but they came off as pretty genuine, at least compared to Miller and Petersson IMO.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by traptor

Dach + CGY 2025 1st for Rasmus.

Who says no?

Easy yes, turn around and dangle a 1st + prospect for Wright.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Kind of glad to hear Andersson might want out since I really don’t want the flames to give him the extension he is eligible for.

Whoops