2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If they trade Andersson this year, they will have to do something (take back a contract) to remain above the floor.

They will not be constrained by the cap any time soon. In a few years, when (if) they are, he'll be tradable. As will Kadri and Weegar. The Flames will not struggle with cap constraints for quite a while.

So his contract is pretty irrelvant.

Kadri will not be tradeable in a few years. Who trades for 36+ years old players making over 7 million? No one! This is an absolute fantasy.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Kadri will not be tradeable in a few years. Who trades for 36+ years old players making over 7 million? No one! This is an absolute fantasy.

Virtually everyone is tradable. It's a question of price.

Making definitive statements like "he will not be tradable" is pointless.

[Monahammer]

Ha ok, so us being bent over harder than the monahan trade falls under your definition of tradeable? That's ridiculous.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Ha ok, so us being bent over harder than the monahan trade falls under your definition of tradeable? That's ridiculous.

Fans constantly say this guy can't be traded, that guy can't be traded. Then they are traded. But fans keep saying it about the next guy anyway. Knock yourself out. Believe what you want. You believed the Edwards article was proof of everything you've been saying for years. So have at er, I guess.

[Bonded]

Kadri's contract isn't really that worrisome if they need the cap space in the last two years of his deal. They can buy him out and have dead cap of 2.3 million for four years or retain heavily and find a team to take him. The Flames won't be capped out in 4 years unless they already have their #1C drafted.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Fans constantly say this guy can't be traded, that guy can't be traded. Then they are traded. But fans keep saying it about the next guy anyway. Knock yourself out. Believe what you want. You believed the Edwards article was proof of everything you've been saying for years. So have at er, I guess.

People are also forgetting that Tre did that trade when cap was at one of the biggest premiums in years because of the Covid flat cap.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Kadri will not be tradeable in a few years. Who trades for 36+ years old players making over 7 million? No one! This is an absolute fantasy.

I think Kadri may actually change to the positive.

If he continues to put up 55-60 points a season as the cap goes up, the lesser term every year derisks the player and likely adds value.

He had 7 years, now it's basically 4

[Groot]

On a team that is starved for offense, Kadri is still on-pace for his 4th highest career point total ever. His 2nd highest was last season. He's ranked 66th with a 58% Corsi% and 92nd with a 57% Fenwick%.

Even if his play drops off some over the remaining 4 years of his contract, to claim with certainty that he's untradeable or we'll be bent over worse than the Monahan trade is absurd.

[FanSince'01]

I think people forget that a $7 million salary in today's NHL is not the same as a $7 million salary a decade ago or 5 years ago or even 2.5 years ago when Kadri signed his deal. Is he overpaid right now? Perhaps you could make that argument, but even if he is, it's not by a whole lot anymore.

And if in 2-3 years we're looking to trade him, the cap will likely be over $100 million, or very close to it, at that point. The average NHL salary will be almost $4.5 million. You're telling me that contenders wouldn't want a player like Kadri for 1-2 years if he continues putting up 60ish points a season? We should easily be able to get a good return for him even without retention if he maintains decent production and if you do retain around 25%, all of a sudden he's pretty close to the average NHL salary which makes him a very attractive commodity even in his mid 30s.

The only way I see Kadri's contract being an anchor and untradable as he gets older is if his game absolutely tanks or if injuries rear their ugly head. Anything can happen but the argument here assumes he stays healthy and maintains decent-to-good production.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Kadri will not be tradeable in a few years. Who trades for 36+ years old players making over 7 million? No one! This is an absolute fantasy.

Brent Burns at the age of 37 was traded to Carolina and had 3 years at 8 per year cap hit left on his deal. Sure the Sharks ate salary...it was also in the height of that flat cap too. Point is its not impossible to trade a guy like Kadri. Getting multiple first without eating salary...well yeah that is.

[dino7c]

Guy is just a Kadri hater dont bother. He said he wouldnt be tradable if he was a UFA this summer...too biased for a reasonable debate.

[SuperMatt18]

If Nazim Kadri was a UFA this season could he get 4 x $7M?

My guess would be with a raising cap and the need for centers across the NHL the answer to that would be yes.

IMO that means he's moveable.

The bigger barrier to a decent return for Kadri at this point would be his NMC. He has a cup, he is said to be pretty picky about where he wants to play, so that's likely more the barrier.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

If Nazim Kadri was a UFA this season could he get 4 x $7M?

My guess would be with a raising cap and the need for centers across the NHL the answer to that would be yes.

IMO that means he's moveable.

The bigger barrier to a decent return for Kadri at this point would be his NMC. He has a cup, he is said to be pretty picky about where he wants to play, so that's likely more the barrier.

Easily.

If a PP specialist aged 35 gets 4x8 he will get it.

Off topic, but the NBA wouldn't allow 4x8 for a 35-year-old.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I think Kadri may actually change to the positive.

If he continues to put up 55-60 points a season as the cap goes up, the lesser term every year derisks the player and likely adds value.

He had 7 years, now it's basically 4

100% correct.


There is a caveat that I see, however. Sometimes an aging player suddenly falls off the cliff, and it is often happens to start the season. When that happens, Kadri will become a negative asset overnight. Will it be age 35? 37? Or will he be a player that sees a more gradual decline? That's the risk I see with Kadri, but I also do think that any team trying to win a cup this season who can use an upgrade in the #2 slot should be offering a package for Kadri.

[dino7c]

Kadri has been better in his 30s than his 20s...he is also a guy you want in the playoffs. Regular season stats are less important.

Career high 49 point Sam Bennett is gonna get paid A LOT more than guys with way better stats

[blankall]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Kadri has been better in his 30s than his 20s...he is also a guy you want in the playoffs. Regular season stats are less important.

Career high 49 point Sam Bennett is gonna get paid A LOT more than guys with way better stats

Bennett is getting essentially retroactively paid for this contributions during the last 2 playoff runs. Even though in the year prior he had 3 points in 10 playoff games and he may never produce well in the playoffs again.

Verhaeghe got $7 million. I see Bennett getting more than that. He may have to go to UFA to get it.

[dino7c]

That was exactly my point

Kadri got paid for a 100 point pace, dominating the blues series to the point they quit playing to chase him around, and scoring the biggest goal of the cup finals. Teams would love to add him for the playoffs.

Toronto ditched him for playing too hard in the playoffs and have regretted it ever since

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by blankall

Bennett is getting essentially retroactively paid for this contributions during the last 2 playoff runs. Even though in the year prior he had 3 points in 10 playoff games and he may never produce well in the playoffs again.

Verhaeghe got $7 million. I see Bennett getting more than that. He may have to go to UFA to get it.

Could see the leafs going after Bennett in the summer. Would be such a Treliving thing to overpay to get the UFA player that’s performed well in the playoffs the last few years but is about to go into his 30s.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

If Nazim Kadri was a UFA this season could he get 4 x $7M?

My guess would be with a raising cap and the need for centers across the NHL the answer to that would be yes.

IMO that means he's moveable.

The bigger barrier to a decent return for Kadri at this point would be his NMC. He has a cup, he is said to be pretty picky about where he wants to play, so that's likely more the barrier.

Kadri seems to buck the trend with many NHLers these days, in that he seems like he prefers a Canadian city and location where he can be involved in the local community.

I wouldn't rule out a return to Toronto. The GM who let him go is gone. We don't know what Kadri's relationship with the rest of the organization was like. Kadri vetoed various trades in an attempt to stay in Toronto in the first place.

If the Flames can recoup a 1st (maybe with retention or taking a bad contract back), that undoes at least part of the damage done by Treliving on the way out.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Could see the leafs going after Bennett in the summer. Would be such a Treliving thing to overpay to get the UFA player that’s performed well in the playoffs the last few years but is about to go into his 30s.

Equally laughable as Bennett was someone he gave up on here.