I believe the votes to get the liberals to a minority opposition lie in the center. What does the average Canadian want? Similar services (slightly better) and an affordable cost of living. Let the middle left call you racist for reforming immigration, your job is to provide value to Canadians first and foremost. Let’s get back to that as our focus.
I agree that’s the path for the Liberals to regain support. But they’ve been back-tracking on immigration for months now and it hasn’t helped them in the polls. It’s really tough to change a narrative in politics once you’re as strongly identified with one as the Liberals are with high immigration rates.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
I think it's just another point of proof that the liberal party and leadership are 100% detached from reality. They are willing to jeopardize our economy and the relationship with our most important ally to try and hold on to power longer. It's totally outrageous and selfish.
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What can a government do with a porouged parliament? Obviously can't pass bills, but clearly government needs to keep doing things. Curious on what are the things they can do.
Curious to know the answer to this as well. And do we actually have PM during this time?
Pierre has an opportunity to moderate his parties positions and ensure at least a 2 term majority. I hope he makes some sensible decisions because if he decides to be the federal version of the UCP during his first term I don’t see them holding a majority beyond this term and we’re going to end up further entrenched in a system where parties are polar opposites from a policy perspective and will Canadians suffer for it.
Too many of the things he’s talking about fixing(housing being one of the best examples) are largely out of the federal government’s hands. Cutting the carbon tax isn’t going to bring prices down to the degree he’s boasting. Crime will remain an issue so long as affordability and good job opportunities are out of reach. Even if he’s successful at improving things for the O&G industry here in our province, it’s not going to mean much for voters in other jurisdictions.
If his party doesn’t moderate in an effort to make stronger inroads with people who are voting for the CPC out of protest it’ll be much easier for opposition parties to point to his broken promises heading into the next election and win those votes back.
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Curious to know the answer to this as well. And do we actually have PM during this time?
We still have a PM, it's Trudeau until March. The government is still the Liberals and they can do anything they could before that doesn't require a vote in parliament. Dealing with the US is a problem though, I can't see the US wasting their time negotiating anything when the people on the other side of the table likely won't be there in a few months.
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When will the Liberal Leadership race being?
Late March, 24th I think.
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Also, its worth noting this was done 6 weeks after the cons had won a minority government. The opposing parties formed a coalition against the minority. 6 weeks and demand a new election they had just lost.
They did not demand a new election. They were going to hold a confidence vote which would have toppled the CPC. Parliamentary procedure then says, call an election unless there is another party that can form a government - the coalition would have stepped in.
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I just wish everyone would give PP a chance before writing him off, and saying he's not fit for the role of Prime Minister. That's the part of partisan politics I loathe in 2025, where people are so quick to write off candidates before seeing what they can do. I think the majority of votes gave Trudeau his opportunity for "real change" coming out of Harper's term as PM. Trudeau was given the mandate as majority leader in 2015. Many progressives voted for Trudeau, after reading the tea leaves and agreeing change was needed. Yet in 2025 so many are willing to throw politicians under the bus without even giving them a day in office.
This isn't a Trump situation where they already had four years to base his Presidency on. PP may not be the warmest character in the political realm, but I would hope Canadians at least give him that same chance Trudeau had before they judge his impeding tenure as PM.
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But in regards to dealing with the US, we are in a worse position now than we were while Trudeau was actually still PM.
Not sure how this helps Canada at all.
We need an election ASAP if he's resigning.
But you see, that's not the important thing. The most important thing is to keep the liberal party in power as long as possible to give them the best possible chance to hold onto power again in October.
Pierre has an opportunity to moderate his parties positions and ensure at least a 2 term majority. I hope he makes some sensible decisions because if he decides to be the federal version of the UCP during his first term I don’t see them holding a majority beyond this term and we’re going to end up further entrenched in a system where parties are polar opposites from a policy perspective and will Canadians suffer for it.
Too many of the things he’s talking about fixing(housing being one of the best examples) are largely out of the federal government’s hands. Cutting the carbon tax isn’t going to bring prices down to the degree he’s boasting. Crime will remain an issue so long as affordability and good job opportunities are out of reach. Even if he’s successful at improving things for the O&G industry here in our province, it’s not going to mean much for voters in other jurisdictions.
If his party doesn’t moderate in an effort to make stronger inroads with people who are voting for the CPC out of protest it’ll be much easier for opposition parties to point to his broken promises heading into the next election and win those votes back.
Don't count on it. Look at Edmonton as an example. A well liked, centrist James Cumming, who has won the seat before, was booted out by his constituency board in favor of a hard line new age Conservative Sayid Ahmed, who's website contains gems like: "Yet liberal elites beholden to woke agendas stand in the way of this progress. They turn to the dirtiest tricks and ugliest playbooks to slow down the movement and stall the advancement of conservatism."
Sayid won after massive support from the party leadership (notably being toted around by Michael Cooper). So, more polarized seems to be the play.
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I just wish everyone would give PP a chance before writing him off, and saying he's not fit for the role of Prime Minister. That's the part of partisan politics I loathe in 2025, where people are so quick to write off candidates before seeing what they can do. I think the majority of votes gave Trudeau his opportunity for "real change" coming out of Harper's term as PM. Trudeau was given the mandate as majority leader in 2015. Many progressives voting for Trudeau, after reading the tea leaves and agreeing change was needed. Yet in 2025 so many are willing to throw politicians under the bus without even giving them a day in office.
This isn't a Trump situation where they already had four years to base his Presidency on. PP may not be the warmest character in the political realm, but I would hope Canadians at least give him that same chance Trudeau had before they judge his impeding tenure as PM.
He's been in politics long enough to have a good idea of how he will do in office. Have you been under a rock for 15 years? He's been in parliament for more than 20 years now. I'm deeply confused by this comment.
He's probably going to be a pretty lame PM, honestly.
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I just wish everyone would give PP a chance before writing him off, and saying he's not fit for the role of Prime Minister. That's the part of partisan politics I loathe in 2025, where people are so quick to write off candidates before seeing what they can do. I think the majority of votes gave Trudeau his opportunity for "real change" coming out of Harper's term as PM. Trudeau was given the mandate as majority leader in 2015. Many progressives voted for Trudeau, after reading the tea leaves and agreeing change was needed. Yet in 2025 so many are willing to throw politicians under the bus without even giving them a day in office.
This isn't a Trump situation where they already had four years to base his Presidency on. PP may not be the warmest character in the political realm, but I would hope Canadians at least give him that same chance Trudeau had before they judge his impeding tenure as PM.
I'm not sure why you feel that way. We've had plenty of time to see exactly who he is, and he's told us what he wants to do, and the disdain he has for experts and Canadian institutions he will destroy. These are all facts.
Like, I already know I don't want to try a #### sandwich based on life experience, so why do you think he should be given a chance to feed us #### sandwiches?
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