[GDT] Ongoing 2025 WJC Game Day Thread

[EldrickOnIce]

If this has been posted already, my bad.
Should be fired already

https://twitter.com/user/status/1875231292243243340

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Yeah well let it be a lesson. Because the people who “know more” and are hired to do this- don’t. They don’t know more than the throngs of Canadians who watch the game religiously. Who know the game. The Dave Camerons and associated management of this team, don’t know more. They don’t know more than the majority of Canadians and they don’t know more than the obvious.

Like this is an easy job. Make it easy. Expect easy decisions. You should be able to hire a clerk from 7-11 to build this team and borderline coach it and that really is all that’s required because Canadians deliver the skill, talent and fortitude.

We need less Dave Cameron’s not more. Less thinking about it not more. More just looking at that stats and just picking those at the top of the heap. Stop rocket sciencing building with sticks and stones.

It’s super ####ing easy. Stop making it hard. You’ll win almost every time.

Hockey Canada is picking the team as if they were Germany. We're not talented and need to grind out wins. Yeah every decade we get a Draisitel and maybe we can gamble a bit but otherwise, we need responsible players to survive.

We're Canada, we have many Draisitels every year. We shouldn't be playing to survive. Our speed and skill should be on full display. Imagine if the Russians played with no flair.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

If this has been posted already, my bad.
Should be fired already

https://twitter.com/user/status/1875231292243243340

I’ve never seen a person more deserving to be fired.

From Elliott Friedmans quote in the posted clip; “if Canada loses the second guessing will be enormous…”

And should be

[midniteowl]

TBH, they are not going to admit that they picked the wrong players for the team, and he is not going to admit that he picked the wrong coaching staff. Who's to blame, HIM of cause.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

TBH, they are not going to admit that they picked the wrong players for the team, and he is not going to admit that he picked the wrong coaching staff. Who's to blame, HIM of cause.

I agree. But he and they should. Integrity matters. Have some balls. You screwed it up. Admit it and we’ll all move on.

Worse is to continue the charade and lies.

[midniteowl]

He should just say, "I'm the GM, I'm responsible therefore I'm to blame!" Then I have respect for him. Because if he say we picked the wrong players, then it'd be bad on the kids. They already kinda blaming the kids saying they didn't have practice because the player were tired. That pissed me off. Cameron should've come out admitting I effed up for not having practices.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Tacoman

The most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Kids at that level almost never take days off. My son at Denver gets Sundays off because it’s often a travel-home day. Otherwise, they are lifting and skating as a team every day. With all the family, friends, fans, press and other distractions at a WJC, that’s even more reason to have them on the ice together every day. Unreal incompetence. I feel so sorry for those kids. These idiots ruined their dream.

Not only that, but most of them were playing significantly less than they normally would with their junior teams. Only two forwards played more than 15 minutes against the US. Only two defensemen played more than 20. What is the team doing that they’re ’too exhausted’ to practice?

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Fall into what category? You think any of those nations have Bedard AND Celebrini level players that didn't go to this tourney because they are in the NHL right now?

19 year olds in the NHL

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Goriders

19 year olds in the NHL

Yes I know. And like I said, no nation is as impacted by 19 year olds in the NHL than Canada. Pretty much every year too.

People conveniently forget that as they celebrate Canada's losses at this tournament.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Torture

Word salad warning:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1875244821469634877

And to touch on this again, when you're preparing for Tournaments, your major tactics and everything are worked out well, well before it starts.

Yeah, theres always the factor of throwing a bunch of people together and hoping for the best, but your X's and O's are done. They are well understood and drilled. You're not re-inventing the wheel by the time you get there you're just helping the team to learn how it rolls.

Thats practice. Even if its just kids fooling around with their line-mates and teammates. It keeps them engaged and they learn the tendencies of their other teammates that they may or may not play with.

This is Basic 101 type stuff.

Then you watch some tape and afterwards they eat pizza and play playstation. But together. Always together.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

If this has been posted already, my bad.
Should be fired already

https://twitter.com/user/status/1875231292243243340

Fired from what?? The WJC staff for Hockey Canada are all on short term contracts, and have taken temporary leave from their full time jobs. Their time with Hockey Canada is now over and pretty soon the applications for next years staff will start rolling in. People calling for “firings” and “resignations” should really be aware of this, the entire staff will be different again next time around. Hopefully this will be the last we see of some of these guys around the WJC teams going forward. “Smarter than the room” type personalities are the worst.

One can only hope that everyone involved has learned from this and will not make the mistake of completely overlooking the most talented players eligible for 2026. As another poster stated, team Canada does not need to be constructed to grind out wins, the talent is available to be blowing the doors off of 1/2 these opponents and the team should built as such.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Nelson

https://www.sportsnet.ca/world-junio...s-wjc-result/?

"For those who were watching the games closely, I challenge you to identify who Canada relied upon to play a heavy, physical brand of hockey. Who were the most consistent play drivers offensively? Who would you identify as the transitional defenceman/play driver who attacked with and without the puck on a consistent basis?"

Great article, I agree with all of it, and this sentence stood out for me, because that is exactly how I felt: I was left wondering who the good players even were, who were the role guys, who were the good defenders, who were the PP guys and the go-to scorers?

The article goes on to say that Cameron seemed to try and balance every line and win by depth, but he achieved the opposite - this team had no identity and no game plan.

[Enoch Root]

At one point, I was going to attempt to assemble my own roster, adding some of the guys that should have been there, but I didn't bother because I didn't know which of the players from the current roster that I would have kept (other than a few obvious choices).

It was like there were 18 generic guys in red, all told to be the same third-line grinder

Except for Cowan, who I kept noticing for all the wrong reasons

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

If this has been posted already, my bad.
Should be fired already

https://twitter.com/user/status/1875231292243243340

Basically said it’s a lottery and they lost

Dude admitted he added no value

[D as in David]

I'm not following this closely, nor did I see any games, but it seems no management—including Cameron—has come out and said they should have done something different, rationalizing their decisions which infer it's on the players.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Fired from what?? The WJC staff for Hockey Canada are all on short term contracts, and have taken temporary leave from their full time jobs. Their time with Hockey Canada is now over and pretty soon the applications for next years staff will start rolling in. People calling for “firings” and “resignations” should really be aware of this, the entire staff will be different again next time around. Hopefully this will be the last we see of some of these guys around the WJC teams going forward. “Smarter than the room” type personalities are the worst.

One can only hope that everyone involved has learned from this and will not make the mistake of completely overlooking the most talented players eligible for 2026. As another poster stated, team Canada does not need to be constructed to grind out wins, the talent is available to be blowing the doors off of 1/2 these opponents and the team should built as such.

The guy with the full time role that should be fired is Scott Salmond. He hires these hacks and sets the vision. I'm sure he's got a full Rolodex of buddies to be the next gm or coach. I'm sure he owes a lot of favors to people for getting to where he's gotten.

Fire that guy.

[Scornfire]

Anholt was the U20 GM for the last 2 years (easily the worst 2 year sample in our WJC history) and has been part of the management team for 4 years running. Hardly a 1 and done contractor. Clearly has no place being in that position

[WideReceiver]

We had no chance to win this. If we played a 7-game series against the U.S. or one of the other top teams, we’d be swept.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by D as in David

I'm not following this closely, nor did I see any games, but it seems no management—including Cameron—has come out and said they should have done something different, either rationalizing their decisions which infer it's on the players.

pretty much, yeah

Anholt said he liked the roster decisions and wouldn't change anything. In other words: "I'm awesome, the kids let us down"

[Rejean31]

Cameron was a joke when he was the assistant for the Flames under (another rocket scientist) Glen Gulutzan. Remember his horrible powerplay? In the OHL his team had the worst penalty killing stats this year. How did anyone think " hey, Dave Cameron would make a great coach for our world juniors"?