Largest AI data centre in the world to be built in northwest Alberta

[PepsiFree]

You better hope nobody googles AI+data+center+nuclear or this whole “take the L” bit is going to look even dumber than your usual schtick.

[Doctorfever]

Yet you still can’t provide one.

[PepsiFree]

I’ve already explained this. I won’t because watching you react and wasting more time than it would take you is funnier. Keep dancing!

[Doctorfever]

L.

[PepsiFree]

This is nice

[Roughneck]

Why are you against nuclear for providing data centre power, Doc?

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

And here I thought you’d be too busy desperately ogling MAGA girls on twitter to reply to little ole’ me.

Thanks champ.

Pepsi, why are all politicians "gay"? edit - Oh, it's casually racist too. Shocking.

[Roughneck]

I don’t know who this Google and Microsoft people are, but I wonder if they have the same capital drawing power available to them as Kevin O’Leary?

Google turns to nuclear to power AI data centres
Google has signed a deal to use small nuclear reactors to generate the vast amounts of energy needed to power its artificial intelligence (AI) data centres.
The company says the agreement with Kairos Power will see it start using the first reactor this decade and bring more online by 2035.

Data Center owners turn to nuclear as potential energy source
Last month, Constellation Energy announced a 20-year power purchase agreement (PPA) to provide electricity to Microsoft data centers in the mid-Atlantic region from the Unit 1 reactor at the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant in Pennsylvania.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Why are you against nuclear for providing data centre power, Doc?

Not against it at all.

When you look at how long it takes to build one (10 -15 years, plus approval of a project like that) it simply doesn’t fit the timeline of this project.

Nuclear power could be used, but would have to be build.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Not against it at all.

When you look at how long it takes to build one (10 -15 years, plus approval of a project like that) it simply doesn’t fit the timeline of this project.

Nuclear power could be used, but would have to be build.

There isn’t any power there now. So any power would have to be built. Why against nuclear? Don’t you support innovation? Companies are looking at SMRs to power these things, why are you against this investment in Alberta?

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

There isn’t any power there now. So any power would have to be built. Why against nuclear? Don’t you support innovation? Companies are looking at SMRs to power these things, why are you against this investment in Alberta?

I support nuclear. I don’t believe the timeline works for this particular project.

[Fuzz]

If they built the first phase as gas, while starting nuclear at the same time, they'd have power for the other phases being built with phase one running. If this is such a great project with this much potential, it should be a no brainier.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Agreed about fixing the CO2 issue that is easy, just takes time.

If Elon cared about solving climate change as much as he cares about sending us to Mars, it would take less time. A lot less time.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

If they built the first phase as gas, while starting nuclear at the same time, they'd have power for the other phases being built with phase one running. If this is such a great project with this much potential, it should be a no brainier.

I don’t disagree.

I’m sure they have looked at it or are currently looking at it. Don’t see why they wouldn’t.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

If Elon cared about solving climate change as much as he cares about sending us to Mars, it would take less time. A lot less time.

Ya i don't think there is much he can do about China and India.

But he is doing more the most goverments, EV may not be totally green* yet but it will be someday

* there is no such thing a green anything.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Ya i don't think there is much he can do about China and India.

But he is doing more the most goverments, EV may not be totally green* yet but it will be someday

* there is no such thing a green anything.

The reason why it's not green today is because of people like him hoarding his wealth instead of investing it in green energy R&D.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Are you unable to look stuff up yourself? We aren't your mother, if you think this is defensible and want to go on about it, find some facts yourself before taking the word of a blowhard snake oil salesman.

Doctorfever, probably.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

The reason why it's not green today is because of people like him hoarding his wealth instead of investing it in green energy R&D.

There isn't any viable alternative to the mighty fossil fuels right now.

there is nothing that will replace fossil fuels in planes, ships, big trucks and since everything is pretty made from some kind of fossil fuel derivative, that too.

So I don't blame him or anyone else.

Further characterizing as hoarding is hilar.

[Bill Bumface]

There's several criteria looked at by companies picking which cloud data centres to leverage. The biggest ones usually being:

1. Reliability
2. Latency
3. Price

For reliability, a lot is up to how the systems themselves are designed, with one major caveat. Site redundancy. If this project is truly a single datacenter, most serious businesses are out for using it for critical workloads on that fact alone, relegating it to exploratory/experimental work.

Latency is a product of geography. The further something is away from the end user, the higher the minimum possible latency. This is why data centres are usually built near-ish large population centres. Really Vancouver and Southern Ontario are the only logical places to build huge data centres in Canada. Even then, most Canadian companies run off sites in the northern US.

What does this leave to make this project feasible? Price. This is where government subsidies can make this financially appealing to serve people overlooking the above two points. Hence why this irks a bunch of us, it's going to be public money to make this thing feasible, and it's going to create a minimal amount of jobs. A few security guards, and a couple nerds to swap dead hardware.

I'm big on the clean energy wagon, but I'd rather see us subsidize a refinery or petrochemical complex instead of this as it would actually make sense to improve the local economy.

[Cappy]

Looks like Mel had a very productive holidays...