12-30-2024, 01:05 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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He's the story of being rushed and not properly developed IMO.
Really seemed to break his confidence and he never really grew his game or evolved.
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Originally Posted by LGA
Avs should claim him and just play 6 Finnish forwards at all times.
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Funny think is I bet if Colorado picked him up they could figure him out. His game isn't that much different than Nichushkin's was when Colorado got a hold of him...good coaches find a way to get the most of these guys.
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12-30-2024, 01:06 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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In his draft year, he was pretty much as “can’t miss” as a prospect can get. I was furious when Edmonton got him….
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12-30-2024, 01:17 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Royle9
I’ll be honest, in his draft year I was pretty sold on him.
He looked dangerous quite often and if I recall correctly did quite well with Laine at the WJ’s that year.
Edmonton definitely didn’t do him any favors.
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I was completely sold on him as well. I thought he was going to be a franchise-level player for a decade +. This is why I am not employed as a scout, and this is why Edmonton's scouts shouldn't be either.
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12-30-2024, 01:19 PM
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#24
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Originally Posted by Sandman
In his draft year, he was pretty much as “can’t miss” as a prospect can get. I was furious when Edmonton got him….
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I assume furious for him as he would be mismanaged.
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12-30-2024, 01:21 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Karl
21 Games played, 8 points (3G, 5A), 8 PIM, -2.
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How many pizzas?
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12-30-2024, 01:21 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
In his draft year, he was pretty much as “can’t miss” as a prospect can get. I was furious when Edmonton got him….
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A bunch of stories called him the most NHL ready (I assume because of size).
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12-30-2024, 01:23 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
He's the story of being rushed and not properly developed IMO.
Really seemed to break his confidence and he never really grew his game or evolved.
Funny think is I bet if Colorado picked him up they could figure him out. His game isn't that much different than Nichushkin's was when Colorado got a hold of him...good coaches find a way to get the most of these guys.
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Except Matthews, Laine and Tkachuk all were given ice time (and Matthews and Laine in a big way). They all did OK. Laine stumbled later but was a serious scorer off the bat.
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12-30-2024, 01:26 PM
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#28
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
He's the story of being rushed and not properly developed IMO. .
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He actually played more game in the AHL his first season than the NHL. Maybe he was rushed I don't know, ultimately he's not a very bright NHL player and I think that held him back more than anything
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12-30-2024, 01:29 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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12-30-2024, 01:29 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Recall again the Oilers didn't figure out for a 2 years they they should help his tougher than usual transition with an interpreter.
https://twitter.com/user/status/955112307410984961
It really is brutal the organizational hubris and subsequent incompetance that ruined so many players in that organization.
As 18 - 20 year olds left to your own devices, with no support from a team that couldn't attract leaders, and no support from the organization to provide basics to set them up for a sucess since the organizational mandate from the President who just assumed skill would get them though like it did from 1981-1991, ignoring off ice needs and intangibles, is negligent.
The look on McDavid's face on lottery day is indicative of that. He knew he was walking into somewhere where it only did he have no mentoring, he was going to be asked to mentor.
Players like Yakupov or Pull-Rv or even lesser known players didn't stand a chance in the league, in how they were failed by that trash organization under Lowe as their most critical and crucial development years were wasted..in Pull-Rv's case, distracted by something as basic as not fully understanding the language. Shame on the Oilers and the PA as well for allowing such basic necessities to go unattended to...it set him back years and here we are, out of the league as Yakupov was becuase of similar issues the Oilers didn't want or feel the need to address at the most important time of a young players career and stage of life.
The preservance to fight through it and make a career in the league like Hall, Coglinao and Eberle etc did is pretty admirable, becuase the organization left them completely exposed and unsupported as teenagers to the unforgiving NHL and NHL life.
Said before, but McDavid has won a couple cups by now and has scored probably more points if he had even the most basic support system somewhere else, similar to Crosby did with the Pens when he was drafted.
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12-30-2024, 01:36 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by gvitaly
3G, 8P in 21GP, which is a 25P pace.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1873814027136311379
I always thought he would be a good pickup for CGY, but I'm over it.
That 2016 draft with the junior Finish team sure didn't play out as advertised. Laine, Puljujarvi, and Joulevi getting picked in the top 5! The perfect storm to get a Tkachuk.
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TIL Tkachuk has played the most NHL games from that draft class with 622. Matthews is next at 586.
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12-30-2024, 01:42 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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This guy could eat corn on the cob through a chain link fence
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12-30-2024, 01:53 PM
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#33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
I’ll be honest, in his draft year I was pretty sold on him.
He looked dangerous quite often and if I recall correctly did quite well with Laine at the WJ’s that year.
Edmonton definitely didn’t do him any favors.
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Understatement of the week!
Laine - Aho - Puljujarvi was one of the most dominant lines the WJCs have ever seen. They were blowing teams away, won gold, and Puljujarvi was MVP and top scorer
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12-30-2024, 01:55 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
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After the WJCs, most people thought Puljujarvi would go 2nd and Laine 3rd (Matthews was always going to be 1st), but by the draft most had switched the 2.
CBJ shocked many by taking PLD, leaving JP to EDM
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12-30-2024, 02:01 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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12-30-2024, 02:28 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I assume furious for him as he would be mismanaged.
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That too.
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12-30-2024, 02:28 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
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My nominee for post of the year, lol.
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12-30-2024, 02:36 PM
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#38
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Just as long as he doesn’t get traded to a coastal team. The gravitational pull of his head would cause havoc with the local tides.
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12-30-2024, 02:54 PM
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#39
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Quote from Todd Mclellan on Jesse Puljujarvi
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But one thing, according to McLellan, works flawlessly, and that is eating. According to the Oilers official, "Pulju's" appetite is second to none.
"I've never seen a young man who eats more than he does. He shovels food in. Someone asks, "How's it going, Jesse?" and he lifts his head off the plate, replies "well," and continues shoveling.
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"And it was just breakfast. After a while, you come back and he is about to eat a snack. He can't read the menu yet, so he shows "two like that," and "one like that." And, when he goes home, he takes a big pile of lunch boxes with him. He's like a little boy," McLellan said with a smile.
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https://www.suomikiekko.com/2016/11/...in-pikkupoika/
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