People very often like to provide numbers and stats when talking about issues and I provided stats from what is probably the most recent and only study that has been on the gender diverse population in prison in Canada. This is what Correctional Service Canada has found when looking at that population in recent years.
Except you falsely suggested it was “all” gender diverse people in prison, when that’s not what the study is based on.
People who don’t have an agenda often like to be accurate instead of misleading.
Except you falsely suggested it was “all” gender diverse people in prison, when that’s not what the study is based on.
People who don’t have an agenda often like to be accurate instead of misleading.
The study is based on all the gender diverse prisoners in the federal system which could be identified based on the tools they have available. Yes, it is only 99 individuals but that is what is available to CSC. You are trying so hard to poke holes in this information.
He's providing context, so people don't assume this is a large pool of prisoners.
For some reason social conservatives and their news media have glomed onto this trans issue like it's some society encompassing destruction of morals. It's not. It's a very small population, and you are being played like a fiddle every time you all get worked up about some trans issue, instead of focusing on actual issues, like your government taking away your rights.
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The study is based on all the gender diverse prisoners in the federal system which could be identified based on the tools they have available. Yes, it is only 99 individuals but that is what is available to CSC. You are trying so hard to poke holes in this information.
The study literally says its small sample size is a limitation and the tools they have available make it even more limited. Why is the study trying so hard to poke holes in its own information?
And to that, why are you denying the limitations the study itself lays out and lying about the scope of the study? An agenda or ignorance, what was it?
The federal government is defending the fact that it overshot last fiscal year's deficit target by roughly $20 billion by suggesting our economy is the envy of the G7. Andrew Chang explains why that argument is misleading, and what $1.2 trillion in federal debt actually means.
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He's providing context, so people don't assume this is a large pool of prisoners.
For some reason social conservatives and their news media have glomed onto this trans issue like it's some society encompassing destruction of morals. It's not. It's a very small population, and you are being played like a fiddle every time you all get worked up about some trans issue, instead of focusing on actual issues, like your government taking away your rights.
They are quite literally saying “look over here you stupid ape! Look at this and be mad about it ya dumb dumb!” And it’s working… in 2024… it’s amazing.
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He's providing context, so people don't assume this is a large pool of prisoners.
For some reason social conservatives and their news media have glomed onto this trans issue like it's some society encompassing destruction of morals. It's not. It's a very small population, and you are being played like a fiddle every time you all get worked up about some trans issue, instead of focusing on actual issues, like your government taking away your rights.
Or what about the real, actual issues - like the government spending itself into generations worth of crippling debt, sky rocketing social/service issues due to unsustainable immigration, painful taxation, and the devastation of the middle class. You know, all the things that the NDP supported Liberal party have delivered for us in these past 9 years.
Those are the issues the vast majority of the country care about. Getting bogged down in absolutely ridiculous conversations about whether or not a man can flip flop a meaningless term in order to get imprisoned with women is a largely irrelevant conversation.
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The federal government is defending the fact that it overshot last fiscal year's deficit target by roughly $20 billion by suggesting our economy is the envy of the G7. Andrew Chang explains why that argument is misleading, and what $1.2 trillion in federal debt actually means.
Additionally, the federal government claims about our financial well being so great compared to the G7 is their unreasonable usage of so called "net" debt. They avoid referring to gross debt. Net debt is including the assets of our CPP and QPP to artificially lower the number that they've accumulated. Unless they plan on illegally seizing those funds to pay down the debt, it's nonsensical.
They might as well include the savings and RRSP accounts of all the individual Canadians as well. I mean, I guess they could change the laws so that they could start stealing those funds to pay off their spending.
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Additionally, the federal government claims about our financial well being so great compared to the G7 is their unreasonable usage of so called "net" debt. They avoid referring to gross debt. Net debt is including the assets of our CPP and QPP to artificially lower the number that they've accumulated. Unless they plan on illegally seizing those funds to pay down the debt, it's nonsensical.
They might as well include the savings and RRSP accounts of all the individual Canadians as well. I mean, I guess they could change the laws so that they could start stealing those funds to pay off their spending.
Net debt isn't something Canada made up; it's an IMF definition that includes assets against the liabilities, which is reasonable. Canada's pension plans are a bit unique, so there's a caveat with Canada's net number, but that's only a portion of the difference between the gross and net debt figures.
If you look at Canada's net debt with CPP/QPP assets excluded from the calculation, it doesn't really change anything in terms of rankings among peer nations. Canada still has the lowest net debt to GDP among G7 nations at just over 40% of GDP, which is the lowest it has been in decades (it was ~60% when the Liberals came to power). Whereas every other G7 nation except for Germany is over 100%.
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Walking around the cardiac ward, what a depressing sure what a complete #####hole it is. Hallways filled with broken furniture and garbage. I’m gonna take some vids of it hoping to get in #### for filming it. Danielle Steele or whatever her name is needs to be taken out back.
Walking around the cardiac ward, what a depressing sure what a complete #####hole it is. Hallways filled with broken furniture and garbage. I’m gonna take some vids of it hoping to get in #### for filming it. Danielle Steele or whatever her name is needs to be taken out back.
9th floor, Foothills Hospital? I have spent ample time there back in 2018/19 for a bypass surgery for my mother. It was indeed an awful looking ward that looked rough back then.
The healthcare workers and staff all were amazing and my mother's surgeon was probably one of the best in Canada based on his CV but that ward and lot's of others are in drastic need of major upgrading everywhere in Canada.
Speedy recovery on your surgery! You mentioned it before but I think you went in for heart/bypass surgery or something? All the best and keep active! It always amazed me at how quick you can recover from heart surgery but a nasty cold/flu can keep you bed ridden for a week.
Net debt isn't something Canada made up; it's an IMF definition that includes assets against the liabilities, which is reasonable. Canada's pension plans are a bit unique, so there's a caveat with Canada's net number, but that's only a portion of the difference between the gross and net debt figures.
If you look at Canada's net debt with CPP/QPP assets excluded from the calculation, it doesn't really change anything in terms of rankings among peer nations. Canada still has the lowest net debt to GDP among G7 nations at just over 40% of GDP, which is the lowest it has been in decades (it was ~60% when the Liberals came to power). Whereas every other G7 nation except for Germany is over 100%.
What do you make of Chang’s point that it’s dishonest framing for Trudeau’s government to exclude provincial debt from the figures?
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Net debt isn't something Canada made up; it's an IMF definition that includes assets against the liabilities, which is reasonable. Canada's pension plans are a bit unique, so there's a caveat with Canada's net number, but that's only a portion of the difference between the gross and net debt figures.
If you look at Canada's net debt with CPP/QPP assets excluded from the calculation, it doesn't really change anything in terms of rankings among peer nations. Canada still has the lowest net debt to GDP among G7 nations at just over 40% of GDP, which is the lowest it has been in decades (it was ~60% when the Liberals came to power). Whereas every other G7 nation except for Germany is over 100%.
Canada's issue isn't so much the actual dollar value of the debt but what we have spent it on and how little we have to show for it. We are borrowing on higher interest credit card debt in order to pay for some luxuries, some fun things and really don't have any sort of plan on boosting economic wellbeing or reduce our credit card spend.
If we look at other G7 nations and compare ourselves with them, specifically our US cousins, that is where things are totally different.
The US debt is at $37 trillion, which is beyond shocking but that is backed by a country that is arguably never been stronger militarily, economically, technologically and more. The resources that America and the US Government could marshal in a crisis or conflict is staggering. America is spending to kick butt, what are we doing?
Canada is piling on the debt without any sort of fiscal or economic plan and we really don't have much to show for it. Our companies struggle and would struggle to compete outside of our oligopoly, our infrastructure is poor, our military is beyond stretched for basic tasks, our provinces are broke, our nations healthcare is collapsing and our citizens are getting poorer by the year. Our economy is being propped up by large volume immigration that is not sustainable and by a housing market that has not had the correction that the US did.
We are in rough shape and although our political leaders in the last 10 years did a dreadful job of the above, this has been an ongoing for a long time from all parties in governments.
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What do you make of Chang’s point that it’s dishonest framing for Trudeau’s government to exclude provincial debt from the figures?
Are they excluding provincial debt when making international comparisons? Then that definitely lacks context. But I didn't see any evidence of that in the video nor have I noticed that in general. The federal government talking only about its own debt levels in virtually every other context makes perfect sense.
When the government talks about having the lowest debt-to-GDP in the G7, they're including the provinces. They're talking about general government net debt, which accounts for assets against the liabilities. As mentioned above, you can't take Canada's net debt figure at face value because Canada's pension plans are unique and inflate the country's assets without accounting for the future liability. But that's why the government also lists its net debt minus social security assets, and that's at just over 40% for all levels of government in Canada combined. That is indeed the lowest level in the G7; Germany is a bit over 50% and every other G7 nation is over 100% by that metric.
And talking about net debt does make sense. If the government borrows $10B at 3% and loans it to a business at 3% to support some sort of project (i.e. clean power generation, manufacturing, etc.) the transaction nets out to zero; $10B in liabilities and $10B in assets. Or when the government bailed out companies during the Great Financial Crisis by taking equity in companies, should we have just ignored the asset side of the equation? No, that would be dumb, but gross debt does ignore that.
So countries with a lot of assets (Norway and Canada are two of the most notable examples) will have large differences between gross and net debt. It's like how a person with a $200K mortgage on a $2M house is in a very different financial situation than someone with a $300K mortgage on an $600K house. The latter person has less gross debt, but also far less equity.
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Butts now saying that Trudeau is likely done, more and more MPs going public asking him to resign. Conservatives are calling back a committee early next week to move a motion of non confidence which would then go to a vote in the house by the end of January (same thing happened with Martin and he just ignored it somehow).
Have to think it's likely Trudeau steps down this week and prorogues Parliament for 3 months. That would shut down the committees, kill any legislation that hasn't been given royal assent, and allow for the 90 day minimum leadership window that the Liberal rules dictate. Then we see an April? throne speech with a new leader and and election shortly after. Or Trudeau stays on, wouldn't really surprise anyone, and we see an election call in February/March?
