I think anyone who was living as a trans person prior to committing their crimes, or has physically transitioned should be able to switch prisons.
In the case at hand, my understanding is that there was none of that present. The offender is still biologically a male and hadn't indicated plans to transition prior to committing heinous violent crimes (that the judge described as feminicide).
This doesn't seem like the poster child for trans-rights to me. This seems like a narcissistic psychopath trying to take advantage of hard fought rights that actual trans people have gotten, diluting support for them in the process.
Nobody is using this person as a poster child for trans-rights. Their situation is being used by anti-trans bigots and the incoming PM himself to advance an anti-trans agenda. The incoming PM’s statement is a sweeping one that is not limited to violent offenders.
As it stands right now, pre-op trans women are evaluated on a case by case basis. Is there any outstanding issue with evaluating this person differently than a trans woman who has not committed violence against women?
Women in prison are more likely than men to experience sexual and institutional violence than men, and these numbers far outrank any risk posed by trans women. However, conservatives seem far less interested in this issue. They don’t seem bothered by rape if it’s by a female inmate or male guard.
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Nobody is using this person as a poster child for trans-rights. Their situation is being used by anti-trans bigots and the incoming PM himself to advance an anti-trans agenda. The incoming PM’s statement is a sweeping one that is not limited to violent offenders.
As it stands right now, pre-op trans women are evaluated on a case by case basis. Is there any outstanding issue with evaluating this person differently than a trans woman who has not committed violence against women?
Women in prison are more likely than men to experience sexual and institutional violence than men, and these numbers far outrank any risk posed by trans women. However, conservatives seem far less interested in this issue. They don’t seem bothered by rape if it’s by a female inmate or male guard.
Is the bolded you agreeing with me? I don't totally follow, but I definitely think someone who has committed violence against women should have a higher standard for getting put into a women's prison than the average criminal. In general I'd give trans women the benefit of the doubt that they were genuine, but with this history I wouldn't.
I also definitely agree that the prison system needs significant reform to protect prisoners. Rape is heinous no matter whom is getting raped, and prisoners deserve protection from that as well.
Is the bolded you agreeing with me? I don't totally follow, but I definitely think someone who has committed violence against women should have a higher standard for getting put into a women's prison than the average criminal. In general I'd give trans women the benefit of the doubt that they were genuine, but with this history I wouldn't.
I also definitely agree that the prison system needs significant reform to protect prisoners. Rape is heinous no matter whom is getting raped, and prisoners deserve protection from that as well.
The bolded is the current system that PP, Doctorfever, and the idiot that wrote that National Post piece are taking issue with.
So if the people who operate the facilities say they can maintain the safety of the other women in the prison, and that transferring the offender to a male prison would negatively impact their safety, you would happily agree with their assessment and take the politics out of it?
I will leave that up to the people who operate the facilities. It's not my job.
Well, clearly the people who operate the facilities can’t maintain the safety of the women in the prison. That’s why there are problems.
Not saying it is necessarily their fault. Perhaps the facilities aren’t designed that way.
Do you think the people who operate the facilities get to decide who comes there? Weird Take.
Ha, trans issues are like blood for our dumbass conservative citizens. You could put their family in front of a firing squad and host a committee next door on how trans people are the biggest threat to society and these dummies would waffle between where to direct their attention.
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Well, clearly the people who operate the facilities can’t maintain the safety of the women in the prison. That’s why there are problems.
Who is causing the problems in the prison, currently?
Remember, Al-Ballouz has not been sent there, they have only requested to be sent there. So are there currently trans prisoners there causing problems?
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Do you think the people who operate the facilities get to decide who comes there? Weird Take.
Who do you think decides where sentences are carried out?
I'll just go by what the judge in the case stated, in the linked story that was a part of the opinion piece you posted.
Al Ballouz has requested to be sent to the Joliette Institution for Women. Downs said the decision about where the sentence will be served is up to Correctional Service Canada.
So will you leave the decision up to the people who operate the facilities, or do you think these should be decisions made by politicians instead?
Who is causing the problems in the prison, currently?
Remember, Al-Ballouz has not been sent there, they have only requested to be sent there. So are there currently trans prisoners there causing problems?
Who do you think decides where sentences are carried out?
I'll just go by what the judge in the case stated, in the linked story that was a part of the opinion piece you posted.
So will you leave the decision up to the people who operate the facilities, or do you think these should be decisions made by politicians instead?
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it’s only possible because of a 2017 policy change championed by Trudeau that requires prisoners to be sorted according to gender identity and not genitalia.
Who is causing the problems in the prison, currently?
Remember, Al-Ballouz has not been sent there, they have only requested to be sent there. So are there currently trans prisoners there causing problems?
Yes, they are. Are they the only source of problems? No. But 85% of all gender diverse offenders are in prison for violent offenses, 60% have a low potential for reintegration into society and 47% incur a disciplinary charge while in prison and 66% had institutional incidents. 36% of the gender diverse offenders have had assault incidents.
Opinion articles do love to editorialize to get people all riled up (hey, it works), but:
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A week later, federal prisons were ordered to evaluate transgender transfer requests on a case-by-case basis, eliminating the old standard that restricted transfers to post-op individuals.
Is significantly different than 'requires to be sorted'.
Yes, they are. Are they the only source of problems? No. But 85% of all gender diverse offenders are in prison for violent offenses, 60% have a low potential for reintegration into society and 47% incur a disciplinary charge while in prison and 66% had institutional incidents. 36% of the gender diverse offenders have had assault incidents.
And 67% of incarcerated trans-women are in men's prisons, and over 90% of incarcerated trans-men are in women's prisons. We've got plenty of percentages to go around. What do they mean? Who knows!
You can always spot a bigot because they only ever choose to operate in black and white. Whenever they are confronted with grey, they will either try to deflect or call back to black and white.
Trans issues are complicated, but from a humanistic perspective are actually pretty simple. Let the professionals work with individuals to find a solution. Everyone else can just f### off.
Prison rape has never been an issue to any of these people until trans persons are involved.
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And 67% of incarcerated trans-women are in men's prisons, and over 90% of incarcerated trans-men are in women's prisons. We've got plenty of percentages to go around. What do they mean? Who knows!
Well, calgarygeologist wants you to believe it’s of all transgender people in prison. But it’s 99 people over 3 years between 2017 and 2020, and the study itself acknowledges the limitations of its small sample size and why certain aspects maybe be overrepresented why the general population is underrepresented.
But hey, if there’s a way to make a percentage sound even scarier by eliminating context and lying about what it’s even a percentage of, then by golly, bigots come running.
I'm sure this will help our negotiations with the Trump tariffs and their accusations about our inability to control our own border. ####ing ridiculous that the Federal government only JUST started to check acceptance letters as part of letting all these so called "students" flood in. ####ing morons.
Indian law enforcement agencies say they are investigating alleged links between dozens of colleges in Canada and two "entities" in Mumbai accused of illegally ferrying students across the Canada-United States border.
A news release Tuesday from India's Enforcement Directorate -- a multi-disciplinary organization that investigates money laundering and foreign exchange laws -- said a multi-city search has revealed "incriminating" evidence of "human trafficking."
Last month, a Minnesota jury found two men guilty -- Steve Shand of Florida and Harshkumar Patel, an Indian national arrested in Chicago -- on four counts related to bringing unauthorized people into the U.S., transporting them and profiting from it.
The release claims that "around 112 colleges based in Canada" have entered into agreement with one entity, while "more than 150" colleges have done so with another entity.
It also claims that Bhavesh Ashokbhai Patel allegedly arranged people to get admissions to Canadian colleges, which helped in getting student visas. The news release did not specify the schools alleged to be involved.
"Once the individuals or students reach Canada, instead of joining the college, they illegally crossed the U.S.-Canada Border and never joined college(s) in Canada," it said.
Just so we are really clear, having had a ton of experience in all kinds of jail, fed and provincial, women prisoners are as much as risk to their fellow prisoners as the occasional trans prisoner, women rape and kill women, men rape and kill men in jail, that's why all jails have seg units where dangerous prisoners are housed separately with higher staff levels, assuming this request is granted a trans woman that is a risk to other prisoners will spend her time pretty much locked up with 24 supervision and only mix with some of the meanest most brutal inmates, frankly I would worry more for the trans prisoner, if you think male prisoners dont like child killers it is nothing to what happens to them in a womans jail.
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Well, calgarygeologist wants you to believe it’s of all transgender people in prison. But it’s 99 people over 3 years between 2017 and 2020, and the study itself acknowledges the limitations of its small sample size and why certain aspects maybe be overrepresented why the general population is underrepresented.
But hey, if there’s a way to make a percentage sound even scarier by eliminating context and lying about what it’s even a percentage of, then by golly, bigots come running.
People very often like to provide numbers and stats when talking about issues and I provided stats from what is probably the most recent and only study that has been on the gender diverse population in prison in Canada. This is what Correctional Service Canada has found when looking at that population in recent years.
