12-23-2024, 08:08 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: A small painted room
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I wonder what this guy was like in high school. I don't think he's going to change. He's not smrt
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12-23-2024, 08:49 AM
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#22
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Powerplay Quarterback
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At least he knows his role I guess.
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12-23-2024, 08:55 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SutterBrother
At least he knows his role I guess.
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Let's be honest. It is the way he has to play to collect an NHL pay cheque. Don't know how accurate, but puck pedia saying his career earnings is just over 2M. He is in the last year so it will be interesting to see if he can Squeeze a bit more out of it.
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12-23-2024, 08:55 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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Seems like a nice kid from all the past interviews with him over the years. Just trying too hard to make a splash in the NHL and making boneheaded decisions that could have grave consequences on others.
Hopefully this is the wakeup call he needs (probably could have said that last time tho).
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12-23-2024, 10:20 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
He did not lay up on the hit. Sure, he didn't 'accelerate into it', because he was already moving at plenty of speed. The check lifted him a foot off the ice, FFS - that is not what laying up on it means.
1) player was in a vulnerable position
2) hit him in the back, straight into the boards
3) got his arm/elbow up, making the primary point of contact high
4) put Heiskanen's face into the glass
This hit could serve as the training video on what constitutes hitting from behind when a player is in a vulnerable position.
"lacks some critical thinking"... LOL, okay
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So you agree he didn’t accelerate into the hit but somehow that isn’t “laying up”? That makes no sense. By not accelerating he did not hit Heiskanen with the full force he could have. That is the definition of laying up on a hit.
1) He wasn’t in a vulnerable position at all, he was pinned up against the boards. If he was 2-3 feet away from the boards at the time of contact then yes it would be a vulnerable position. This isnt it homie.
2) Hits in the back like this (minus the elbow) happen every game, this is nothing new and typically a play that doesn’t get suspended.
3) I still agree with you about the elbow, so I’m not sure what your point is or who you are talking to. I agree with you and somehow you struggle to understand that lol.
4) I’ll have to check the rule book for a face into glass penalty, is it a minor or double minor? Haven’t seen that one called before. This point lacks critical thinking too.
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12-23-2024, 01:04 PM
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#26
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Wtf was he thinking? That wasn't even a hockey play, just elbowing the other teams star player in the back of the head and into the boards. Didn't try to play the puck.
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12-23-2024, 01:10 PM
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#27
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
So you agree he didn’t accelerate into the hit but somehow that isn’t “laying up”? That makes no sense. By not accelerating he did not hit Heiskanen with the full force he could have. That is the definition of laying up on a hit.
1) He wasn’t in a vulnerable position at all, he was pinned up against the boards. If he was 2-3 feet away from the boards at the time of contact then yes it would be a vulnerable position. This isnt it homie.
2) Hits in the back like this (minus the elbow) happen every game, this is nothing new and typically a play that doesn’t get suspended.
3) I still agree with you about the elbow, so I’m not sure what your point is or who you are talking to. I agree with you and somehow you struggle to understand that lol.
4) I’ll have to check the rule book for a face into glass penalty, is it a minor or double minor? Haven’t seen that one called before. This point lacks critical thinking too.
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I don't understand the point you are trying to make. He hit someone from behind, got his elbow up, and drove his head directly into the boards. What exactly do you think hitting from behind is?
Sure, the 8 games was a result of escalating penalties, but it was super dirty. He had so much time to do anything other than what he did.
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12-23-2024, 01:14 PM
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#28
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Robbob
Let's be honest. It is the way he has to play to collect an NHL pay cheque. Don't know how accurate, but puck pedia saying his career earnings is just over 2M. He is in the last year so it will be interesting to see if he can Squeeze a bit more out of it.
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Guy ruins the health and careers of people with legitimate talent to collect a league minimum salary. POS.
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12-23-2024, 01:24 PM
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#29
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
Let's be honest. It is the way he has to play to collect an NHL pay cheque. Don't know how accurate, but puck pedia saying his career earnings is just over 2M. He is in the last year so it will be interesting to see if he can Squeeze a bit more out of it.
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He hasn’t made nearly that much.
He’s on his ELC and has spent most of his time in the minors.
Last edited by Junglist; 12-23-2024 at 01:26 PM.
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12-23-2024, 01:25 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goriders
If you look at his history he has a relatively normal stat line until you get to the NHL games. Then the PIMs go off the chart.
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That's because he's not an NHL quality player and this is the only way he sticks around.
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12-23-2024, 01:25 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
So you agree he didn’t accelerate into the hit but somehow that isn’t “laying up”? That makes no sense. By not accelerating he did not hit Heiskanen with the full force he could have. That is the definition of laying up on a hit.
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To me, the definition of laying up is not ramming a guy's head into the glass from behind with your elbow. Or not hitting at all when you see a guy's numbers the whole way in.
Different definitions, I guess.
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12-23-2024, 03:41 PM
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#32
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
So you agree he didn’t accelerate into the hit but somehow that isn’t “laying up”? That makes no sense. By not accelerating he did not hit Heiskanen with the full force he could have. That is the definition of laying up on a hit.
1) He wasn’t in a vulnerable position at all, he was pinned up against the boards. If he was 2-3 feet away from the boards at the time of contact then yes it would be a vulnerable position. This isnt it homie.
2) Hits in the back like this (minus the elbow) happen every game, this is nothing new and typically a play that doesn’t get suspended.
3) I still agree with you about the elbow, so I’m not sure what your point is or who you are talking to. I agree with you and somehow you struggle to understand that lol.
4) I’ll have to check the rule book for a face into glass penalty, is it a minor or double minor? Haven’t seen that one called before. This point lacks critical thinking too.
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I'll defend open ice and hard hits all day long, but hits from behind like this are almost never defendable. This is the type of play that absolutely cannot be part of hockey because the player along the boards is completely vulnerable and it can end his career.
8 games isn't enough.
Not sure how you're defending it (even Brian Burke wanted to get this type of play completely out of the game as it serves no purpose except to injure).
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12-23-2024, 03:44 PM
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#33
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Back in Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
So you agree he didn’t accelerate into the hit but somehow that isn’t “laying up”? That makes no sense. By not accelerating he did not hit Heiskanen with the full force he could have. That is the definition of laying up on a hit.
1) He wasn’t in a vulnerable position at all, he was pinned up against the boards. If he was 2-3 feet away from the boards at the time of contact then yes it would be a vulnerable position. This isnt it homie.
2) Hits in the back like this (minus the elbow) happen every game, this is nothing new and typically a play that doesn’t get suspended.
3) I still agree with you about the elbow, so I’m not sure what your point is or who you are talking to. I agree with you and somehow you struggle to understand that lol.
4) I’ll have to check the rule book for a face into glass penalty, is it a minor or double minor? Haven’t seen that one called before. This point lacks critical thinking too.
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A hat trick of terrible takes from you. Take a break, you’re only looking more foolish with each long winded post.
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12-23-2024, 03:52 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
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lol. I can’t believe you wasted all that energy defending someone trying to purposely injure a player.
Rempe is a clown and should never play in the NHL again. In fact he shouldn’t play in the AHL either.
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12-23-2024, 03:53 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Originally Posted by Infinit47
I don't understand the point you are trying to make. He hit someone from behind, got his elbow up, and drove his head directly into the boards. What exactly do you think hitting from behind is?
Sure, the 8 games was a result of escalating penalties, but it was super dirty. He had so much time to do anything other than what he did.
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My point is that hits from behind like this is which aren’t aggressive happen all the time. The elbow being up was stupid and I feel like Rempe probably deserved a game misconduct for it. This was a dirty play for sure but an 8 game suspension feel very excessive given what other plays the NHL doesn’t provide discipline on. Bertuzzi with his slash last game wasn’t even given a misconduct or review, and Pospisil getting sucker punched was ok by the league.
What Rempe did was dumb and dangerous, but I don’t think it deserved 8 games at all.
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12-23-2024, 03:54 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3thirty
A hat trick of terrible takes from you. Take a break, you’re only looking more foolish with each long winded post.
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Thanks for your reply and significant insight. I’m sure it took you all day and I’m proud of you for doing your best.
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12-23-2024, 04:05 PM
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#37
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by calumniate
I wonder what this guy was like in high school. I don't think he's going to change. He's not smrt
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I've chatted with him not too long after he was drafted. I think he would of been like 18 at this time.
He seemed like a very nice young guy. Didnt come off unintelligent or douchy at all, but actually very mature for an 18 year old. For example he didnt just talk about himself but made an effort to ask me questions about my life.
He was very excited to be drafted and have a chance at the NHL.
Last edited by traptor; 12-23-2024 at 04:11 PM.
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12-23-2024, 04:13 PM
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#38
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Calgary kid.
Grew up a Flames fan.
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I'd be smashing everyone into the boards too if I grew up a Flames fan and found myself playing for the same team as Adam Fox.
Last edited by FanIn80; 12-23-2024 at 04:16 PM.
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12-23-2024, 07:37 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3thirty
A hat trick of terrible takes from you. Take a break, you’re only looking more foolish with each long winded post.
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Here is an example of a hit from a vulnerable position because you clearly don’t understand what that means.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comm...g_with_a_face/
I would like to point out there wasn’t an 8 game suspension for this hit lol. I can understand why it’s difficult to watch these things and make comparisons when your brain has no ripples in it.
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Originally Posted by puckhog
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Last edited by PaperBagger'14; 12-23-2024 at 07:39 PM.
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12-23-2024, 09:20 PM
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#40
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
Here is an example of a hit from a vulnerable position because you clearly don’t understand what that means.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comm...g_with_a_face/
I would like to point out there wasn’t an 8 game suspension for this hit lol. I can understand why it’s difficult to watch these things and make comparisons when your brain has no ripples in it.
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I think you mean fold's...not much surface area added with ripples. Or are you a ripples guy?
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