Just give us an election already; it's so pointless to keep delaying it.
The Liberals themselves are only falling further and delaying any rebuild. Get on with it.
So you are saying they are like the Flames?
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Just give us an election already; it's so pointless to keep delaying it.
The Liberals themselves are only falling further and delaying any rebuild. Get on with it.
I think the odds are that there will be no update today, the house will stand and Trudeau will do a shuffle, if they bring in Carny he can't stand in the house and deliver the statement, so they'll push to April and maybe prorogue til the budget.
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Wait, the guy who was in charge of immigration when they decided to open the doors to to get to 100 million people? The same guy who claimed that there was a vast labor shortage that needed the importation of low skill and low wage workers across the board? The same guy who screamed RACISTS! whenever somebody had feedback about his plans? The same guy who was then in charge of housing and just watched as the cost of housing ####ed people up? That guy?
He only just finally did something?
But…..he’s well spoken? I’m still trying to figure out why people give him anything other than an F as a cabinet minister for any portfolio he’s held.
I don't get Mark Carney's strategy if he's going to join the government. If the end goal is to be prime minister, it seems like a bad strategy to associate himself with Trudeau or his government in anyway. Only way it makes sense from Carney's perspective is if Trudeau's planning to resign in the very near term.
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Just give us an election already; it's so pointless to keep delaying it.
The Liberals themselves are only falling further and delaying any rebuild. Get on with it.
I say this as someone who isn't a PP supporter; but you are absolutely right.
The longer Trudeau drags this term, the longer it will take to rebuild the party. Of course, he doesnt care about that.
I would think Freeland makes a play internationally. Her heart is there
Canada is in a financial crisis and it's been exasperated by foolish and piss poor leadership at the top. The level of shot's fired at the PM from Freeland is interesting but Canada needs someone like Carney at the table because of the coming tsunami from the Trump administration. Trudeau isn't capable of managing his children's pocket and allowance money let alone a G7's economy.
We will see what happens but for all we know, we could legit see a potential scenario where Trudeau does not survive this politically and Mark Carney is quickly elected party leader and PM in fairly short order.
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There were reasons for the plan in 2021 to increase immigration to levels to 500,000 by 2025, including to address labor shortages, playing catch-up to immigration targets due to pandemic throttling of immigration processing, and to march towards a longer-term trend of handing an aging population, where immigration often plays supporting roles in addressing labor needed for healthcare, home care, etc.
Did this surge create some issues? Yes it did, around housing, infrastructure, and bad-faith actors (e.g. diploma mills). Can't sugarcoat that. But to be fair, the housing crisis was a complex issue brewing for decades prior to Fraser's tenure as Minister, for various reasons beyond any one government, and infrastructure deficits have been a chronic problem among provinces (where the Feds have played their part in funding when provinces tighten their pocketbooks).
When decisions are made at points-in-time in governance in both the pubilc and private sectors, and if changing course is something that is needed with the benefit of hindsight, data and emerging issues, then it's important to be pliable and correct course.
Canada is in a financial crisis and it's been exasperated by foolish and piss poor leadership at the top. The level of shot's fired at the PM from Freeland is interesting but Canada needs someone like Carney at the table because of the coming tsunami from the Trump administration. Trudeau isn't capable of managing his children's pocket and allowance money let alone a G7's economy.
We will see what happens but for all we know, we could legit see a potential scenario where Trudeau does not survive this politically and Mark Carney is quickly elected party leader and PM in fairly short order.
I don't disagree at all but at this point do you really think they are winning back voters even if Trudeau does finally bow out? They are inept from top to bottom and completely out of touch with what the average Canadian wants/needs at this point. If you're going to restore your standing as party and country at home and internationally you pretty much have to change guard and rebuild. You can't do that by smacking lipstick on a pig with a new leader. The PM has rotted the Liberal party and Country to the foundation and I hope anyone that voted for him the last time around is happy.
I'm not fully sold on PP taking the reigns, but at this point you're going from the outhouse to an interior bathroom with running water. At least he's got a plan and is not afraid to act. Trudeau always has been a wet rag, but this is just an absolute embarrassment at this point. Has a PM ever had 2 finance ministers just fully quit before? My god.
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In 2011, the Conservative government legislated a back-to-work bill after Canada Post locked out CUPW members for two weeks. The postal workers took the action to court and the union won the key legal case when an Ontario court found that legislation was unconstitutional.
At this point Trudeau should realize that pretty much no one in his government wants to be associated with him anymore and that the only solution is to dissolve parliament and go ahead with an election.
Not direct response, of course, because he’s learned not to waste his time with you, just a response he’ll attach on to a response to someone else while he’s telling them he’s above such silly things.
Justin struggling to accept that its over and his flailing about it making everything worse. Absolute dog#### governance since the pandemic ended. Labour shortages nationwide in construction, only 3% of new immigrants have a background in construction.
The scams they've turned a blind eye to in real estate and immigration deserve criminal prosecution. Nevermind the 35B pipeline that was little more than pigs at a trough and should have years long criminal inquiry around it.
I don't get Mark Carney's strategy if he's going to join the government. If the end goal is to be prime minister, it seems like a bad strategy to associate himself with Trudeau or his government in anyway. Only way it makes sense from Carney's perspective is if Trudeau's planning to resign in the very near term.
I don't even think that makes sense? Like if I'm Carney and want to be PM, I let the party freefall into the next election and win a handful of seats. Then run in the inevitable leadership and be the guy to rejuvenate the party from there?
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Also, technically speaking, this approach does not actually order the end of the strike. Rather, it just pauses the strike (and lockout) until Mr. Kaplan’s investigation is complete. Obviously, the government hopes that the pause and intervention of Kaplan will ultimately lead the parties to reach a deal prior to April. But, provided the CIRB finds that a settlement is unlikely, the Minister’s move at least permits Canada Post to make some December deliveries. By not “ending the strike”, the government might also hope to have sheltered itself from a more obvious Section 2(d) Charter complaint that it has banned a strike. In theory, I assume that it’s possible the strike could resume after Kaplan’s report is issued in April and the extended collective agreement terms have expired.
Because this is not 'back to work' legislation, it isn't the same as the 2011 situation. So it is indeterminate if the courts would find it a Charter violation, but on the face of it, it seems this was designed to specifically have avoided that.
I guess I'm a sucker for punishment. Ooh, and I even got a Pepsi drive-by.
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Because this is not 'back to work' legislation, it isn't the same as the 2011 situation.
Again, kind of a waste to try and have a discussion when you engage the way you do, but I guess I'm a sucker for punishment. Ooh, and I even got a Pepsi drive-by.
Sorry man you know I appreciate you I just find it genuinely funny you’re on this like “I’m not wasting my time” kick while continuing to engage regardless.
It’s like people who say they have you on ignore but then continue to respond to you. Like… who are we fooling here.
I don't disagree at all but at this point do you really think they are winning back voters even if Trudeau does finally bow out? They are inept from top to bottom and completely out of touch with what the average Canadian wants/needs at this point. If you're going to restore your standing as party and country at home and internationally you pretty much have to change guard and rebuild. You can't do that by smacking lipstick on a pig with a new leader. The PM has rotted the Liberal party and Country to the foundation and I hope anyone that voted for him the last time around is happy.
I'm not fully sold on PP taking the reigns, but at this point you're going from the outhouse to an interior bathroom with running water. At least he's got a plan and is not afraid to act. Trudeau always has been a wet rag, but this is just an absolute embarrassment at this point. Has a PM ever had 2 finance ministers just fully quit before? My god.
I fully agree with your thoughts but I think the we are looking at an actual political and economic crisis. I don't think that Carney will save the Liberals or that the Liberals are not officially done as a party. PP will be PM in short order but I think the amount of people who are officially telling Canada that Trudeau is officially a joke, is shocking. Many people knew this over the last 10 years but it's becoming evident to virtually everybody.
I think given the seriousness of everything, Trudeau had his wings and his nuts cut off this morning and decisions about seriousness will need to be made in short order. It's a game changing week with lot's of balls in the air while Trudeau's are on the ground.
I don't even think that makes sense? Like if I'm Carney and want to be PM, I let the party freefall into the next election and win a handful of seats. Then run in the inevitable leadership and be the guy to rejuvenate the party from there?
I agree, unless he's worried the whole party is going to be wiped out ala the Kim Campbell PC's in 1993 and he needs to push to win leadership ahead of the next election to retain as many seats as possible and build from there? Trudeau is so cooked and the drama of the past week or so would lead to an imminent resignation from any sane person in his shoes. If Trudeau is the leader going into the next election literally every seat could be up for grabs.
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