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Old 12-12-2024, 05:49 PM   #4201
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Parekh IMO, needs a motivation lesson from Lomberg. Then he'd be all the hype names you can name.
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Old 12-12-2024, 05:57 PM   #4202
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Parekh IMO, needs a motivation lesson from Lomberg. Then he'd be all the hype names you can name.
What makes you say that? Sees like a high achiever to me.
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Old 12-12-2024, 06:13 PM   #4203
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LeBrun on insider trading says the Canes are ready to make a move for a goalie to play behind Kochetkov now, but Calgary (Vladar), Ottawa (Forsberg), Utah (Vejmelka) are not ready to be sellers yet. Canes have checked on Gibson but the price needs to come down.
Flames not ready to be sellers? If someone offers a 3rd for vladar with no garbage player coming back they should do it .
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What makes you say that? Sees like a high achiever to me.
He is but as we seen in camp and through some highlights he seems to be missing a gear at times. Some posters called it too casual. I think cerebral players like Parekh have that casual appearance to their play but it doesn't always mean cerebral. Sometimes it's just taking his foot off the gas.

It's not meant as a slight.

I meant that Lomberg never takes a shift off and always is in go mode. Something I believe that could run off on Parekh and elevate him to the upper echelon of NHL players.
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If Pospisil gets traded, they must retain his off-season rights to train Flames' prospects.
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Old 12-12-2024, 06:48 PM   #4206
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If you are making a serious offer for mctavish, you have to look at slotting of the prospects that you have, and that you would not be stunting their development to shoehorn in the opposition.

Coronato sits as the undisputed top RW. Honzek is at least two years from transitioning full time to centre, if that's where he ends up. I would slot him as the top LW prospect, with aspirations at center.

Odd man out is my favorite prospect, playing roughly the same position as mctavish, long term.

Do you do zary + for him?
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Not that I disagree with your overall point here, but saying Parekh should be a lock for Team Canada is giving Hockey Canada waaaaaay too much credit that they actually know how to evaluate junior talent, especially when they have a history of making highly questionable roster picks for the World Junior team
This is just ridiculous.

Since 1990...so the last 34 tournaments, they have won the gold 14 times, and silver medal 3 times.

That means they have been in the final in literally half of them.

Not one other nation can come even close to that claim.

I mean I get that the organization dropped the ball in the biggest way possible off the ice and that all the changes (that have already happened) were necessary, but they regularly send super good teams to this thing even though most years their very best 18 and 19 year olds aren't available because they are in the NHL.

Not to mention that the other nations are getting really good at the game as well.
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Which is funny because as soon as someone said trade for Bennett, my immediate thought was Kadri - FLA is in win now mode, and Kadri at $7M is cheaper than what Bennett is likely to sign for. He fits their mold perfectly.

Would actually be a pretty decent trade for both teams IMO.
I don’t think it’s even close to fair value. Bennett as a rental would net Florida a first plus high end prospect IMO.

Kadri, flames would have to eat money and I’d wager a 2nd would be the most you’d get.
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If you are making a serious offer for mctavish, you have to look at slotting of the prospects that you have, and that you would not be stunting their development to shoehorn in the opposition.

Coronato sits as the undisputed top RW. Honzek is at least two years from transitioning full time to centre, if that's where he ends up. I would slot him as the top LW prospect, with aspirations at center.

Odd man out is my favorite prospect, playing roughly the same position as mctavish, long term.

Do you do zary + for him?
No, I don't think the Flames do either unless they have a very big book on McTavish. I doubt we've scouted him that extensively. Zary is a trouble free top prospect developing exactly as he should be.

We're all frothing at the mouth to get some distressed inventory here. Not sure we want to pay full retail if you know what I mean.
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No, I don't think the Flames do either unless they have a very big book on McTavish. I doubt we've scouted him that extensively. Zary is a trouble free top prospect developing exactly as he should be.

We're all frothing at the mouth to get some distressed inventory here. Not sure we want to pay full retail if you know what I mean.
Frothing? That's not entirely fair.

They tell us they want a young top 6 caliber center.

They're playing too well to draft one in the top end of the draft.

The ones available via trade aren't perfect but they're young enough to pop.

What are we supposed to do or say? The Flames want what's out there, what are they willing to pay to get it?

I vote draft capital, I think they want to add without subtracting from what they are developing right now.
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Yeah, 3rd overall that you are unhappy with and want to cut bait on is probably worth a late first maybe a bit more.

Lines up exactly with what Connie says he is wanting to do.
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This is just ridiculous.

Since 1990...so the last 34 tournaments, they have won the gold 14 times, and silver medal 3 times.

That means they have been in the final in literally half of them.

Not one other nation can come even close to that claim.
Not one other nation can claim to have half the NHL-grade prospects in the world to choose from. A Canada vs. the world tournament ought to be pretty close to a 50-50 proposition. Only making the finals half the time, with that talent to draw on, is seriously underachieving.
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If you are making a serious offer for mctavish, you have to look at slotting of the prospects that you have, and that you would not be stunting their development to shoehorn in the opposition.

Coronato sits as the undisputed top RW. Honzek is at least two years from transitioning full time to centre, if that's where he ends up. I would slot him as the top LW prospect, with aspirations at center.

Odd man out is my favorite prospect, playing roughly the same position as mctavish, long term.

Do you do zary + for him?
I wouldn't move zary. Zary can play center and is more dynamic.

Coronato, then sure there's a discussion. But it's a gamble. I think there's a decent chance coronato ends up being the better player over their careers.
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My goodness. McTavish isn't good enough to trade a 1st for right now. Much less a 1st and a top prospect.
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My goodness. McTavish isn't good enough to trade a 1st for right now. Much less a 1st and a top prospect.
A late first for a guy with his skill set and physical attributes?
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Just because they flamed out in the playoffs doesn't meant they weren't considered a legitimate contender. There's usually at least one that goes out early.
Yeah, it's called the Flames.
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I don’t think it’s even close to fair value. Bennett as a rental would net Florida a first plus high end prospect IMO.

Kadri, flames would have to eat money and I’d wager a 2nd would be the most you’d get.
What? no...Flames could trade Kadri and easily get a first with retention for multiple years.

Florida won't trade Bennett though even if he is just their "rental" this year. You only get so many kicks at the can
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A late first for a guy with his skill set and physical attributes?
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Have the ducks soured on McTavish that much already? Seems a bit surprising to me.

With Jiricek there was word for sometime it wasn’t working well with the BJ’s. Different situations/people/organizations, I know but I wonder if McTavish’s name getting out there is a motivation tactic? Are the Ducks really all that close to trading him?

Just my best guess but given the Ducks have been rebuilding as long as they have I’m not sure if more picks is really what they would want. A player close to the same age in a Byram-Middlestat type move, I think, that has more credence here. I’d be surprised if they had much interest in assets that are not yet in the NHL.

The Ducks are a bit strange though. They seem to let things fester. Zegras and Gibson to name two. Conroy, on the other hand, if a player doesn’t want to be here, they’ll be moved out. He has made that much pretty clear.
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Old 12-13-2024, 06:16 AM   #4219
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I don't think anyone should be declaring McTavish damaged goods just yet. 43 points in his rookie season. Followed it up with 42 points in only 64 games last year. ONly 11 points in 22 games this year, but the Ducks as a whole are having trouble scoring. Other than Troy Terry, no player has more than 14 points. Terry leads the team with 8 goals. After Terry's 14, the next highest assists is - McTavish ( and Ryan Strome). There are clearly issues in Anaheim and I doubt they are McTavish.
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I don't think anyone should be declaring McTavish damaged goods just yet. 43 points in his rookie season. Followed it up with 42 points in only 64 games last year. ONly 11 points in 22 games this year, but the Ducks as a whole are having trouble scoring. Other than Troy Terry, no player has more than 14 points. Terry leads the team with 8 goals. After Terry's 14, the next highest assists is - McTavish ( and Ryan Strome). There are clearly issues in Anaheim and I doubt they are McTavish.
Meanwhile, those same fans are probably excited about Coronato's progression haha
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