2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

His ceiling is beyond Hughes. That is what the scouts said before the draft.

Sure.

Doesn't change the discussion.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Offensively his upside is massive, but there have always been questions about his defensive game

[dammage79]

The ducks appear from the outside to be a tire fire. Why on earth would they put McTavish on the block as one of their few bright spots?

That's two centers now on their block under the age of 24. Wtf is going on.

Flames need one, grab one.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Sure.

Doesn't change the discussion.

Fair enough. For me I wouldn't trade Parekh for McTavish. I can respect others opinions though.

[TOfan]

I think some of the hype around Parekh is a bit overblown. Some around here were comparing him to Bobby Orr before the draft. That’s insane. If he was in that stratosphere, he would have gone 1OA.

I saw comparisons to Karlson but also saw comparisons to John Klingberg. The latter’s ceiling would have been top pair D. If he was as slam dunk top pairing D, I’d bet his spot on Team Canada would have been all but assured.

He’s a tremendous prospect and I hope he meets or even exceeds his potential but I think labelling his floor as a top pairing D might be a bit much. Of course, it’s one thing to be top pairing on certain teams and it’s another to be top pair on others.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I think some of the hype around Parekh is a bit overblown. Some around here were comparing him to Bobby Orr before the draft. That’s insane. If he was in that stratosphere, he would have gone 1OA.

I saw comparisons to Karlson but also saw comparisons to John Klingberg. The latter’s ceiling would have been top pair D. If he was as slam dunk top pairing D, I’d bet his spot on Team Canada would have been all but assured.

He’s a tremendous prospect and I hope he meets or even exceeds his potential but I think labelling his floor as a top pairing D might be a bit much. Of course, it’s one thing to be top pairing on certain teams and it’s another to be top pair on others.

No. None around here were comparing him to Orr, that was Byron Bader and Byron Bader alone. I'm all for discussion but if you're going to gaslight the conversation get it right.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

I know we hope hes "generational" because we drafted him, but the league and scouts didn't see it that way 6 months ago at the draft

He was drafted 9th overall for a reason.

He could, but let's not pretend he was a 1st overall or 1st D selected.

McTavish was 3rd overall. He "could" be a generational center (technically)

I wouldn't trade straight up because I don't think losing 3 years of control of a player at this point of our rebuild makes any sense , but it's not an unfair trade

He is like Kirby Dach that way, a fellow 3rd overall pick. They are both 3rd overall picks. Two years apart for their draft years.

It would be surprising if he was generational (McTavish) mainly because he is currently probably the 7th best player out of that first round (Power, Beniers, Johnston, Guenther, Hughes and Clarke being better) but that draft could have a lot of generational players.

[SuperMatt18]

McTavish, Cozens, and some of the other rumoured names shouldn't be discussed as generational centers, or probably even bonafide top line centers at this point.

Most likely what they would be potentially are guys that are young 2nd line centers that can help you for the next 5-10 years.

Personally I think McTavish is a bit more well rounded, younger, and cheaper, so I'd prefer him to Cozens. But he also likely costs more from an acquisition cost perspective due to being younger and not having the contract that is a bit of a boat anchor.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I would love MacTavish here. I would definitely try a 'scatter gun' of quantity to try and snag him, however. NJ first + Pelletier + Kuznetsov + Poirier - something like that.

I would hate for the Flames to trade a higher-value piece for MacTavish not because I think Coronato and/or Parekh are more or less valuable than MacTavish, but simply because I thought the Gaudreau era was a decent core that you could win with, but needed another another layer of core players (too top heavy), or at least core-support players. Of course they suffered from poor goaltending as well for most of that era, but there were definitely some holes on the team ignoring the net.

Trade Parekh for MacTavish - great. You get a shot at a #1 C, but now you need to draft a #1D again. It just doesn't make sense to trade from a position of weakness (Flames have a good D base, but trade Parekh away, and you end up with a hole in the #1 slot that you only hope to fill by committee).

Flames need to draft and retain anything that has elite potential and add to them. Some will disappoint and just be 'decent players' (and some will fail outright, no matter how elite they may be in Junior and in the AHL). Trading Parekh - even if I may have my own reservations with regards to him - is a bit like robbing Peter to pay Paul. Had there been another #1 D in the pipe, I could support it.

Additionally, I hope the Flames start to pair guys off this time around. One glaring mistake I felt that Gulutzan did was the fixation on 'short-term' vs 'long-term'. The 3M line was undeniably good, but maybe in the 2nd year, it would have been a better idea to staple Tkachuk to Bennett and have them grow together. It is obviously working in Florida. Instead, Bennett just jumped around the lineup and positions, never really settling with anyone long-term (especially nobody with skill).

At some point towards the end of this season, I would love to see Zary centering a line between Coronato and Pelletier. You can shelter that line a bit with Backlund and Kadri. See if one (or both) of the wingers can develop chemistry with Zary, and let them grow up together. It makes some sense to me to do that after players get their ears wet in the NHL. Coronato with Backlund is fantastic to start as it forces Coronato to become a more well-rounded player. Pelletier should probably get the same treatment at some point too, and then move to Zary's line. Just a thought anyway.

Edit: Forgot to add the Pospisil talk. I distinctly remember Huska talking about the Pospisil penalties earlier this season that sent him to the doghouse. It wasn't anything to do with him being overzealous on the physicality. Huska benched him for being lazy - stick and holding infractions in the offensive zone. He specifically stated that he wouldn't have minded if they were physical hits that resulted in infractions, but hooking and slashing (whatever they were - can't quite remember) is not tolerated.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I think some of the hype around Parekh is a bit overblown. Some around here were comparing him to Bobby Orr before the draft. That’s insane. If he was in that stratosphere, he would have gone 1OA.

I saw comparisons to Karlson but also saw comparisons to John Klingberg. The latter’s ceiling would have been top pair D. If he was as slam dunk top pairing D, I’d bet his spot on Team Canada would have been all but assured.

He’s a tremendous prospect and I hope he meets or even exceeds his potential but I think labelling his floor as a top pairing D might be a bit much. Of course, it’s one thing to be top pairing on certain teams and it’s another to be top pair on others.

Yup.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I would love MacTavish here. I would definitely try a 'scatter gun' of quantity to try and snag him, however. NJ first + Pelletier + Kuznetsov + Poirier - something like that.
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There isn’t a chance in hell the Ducks accept these spare parts to trade a recent top 3 pick in the division. Flames probably would have to put one of Zary, Coronato, or Parekh on the table to get the player.

He is the exact type of piece Conroy wants but tough to see the Ducks accepting a package that does not contain even 1 top 5 prospect for the Flames in the offer.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

There isn’t a chance in hell the Ducks accept these spare parts to trade a recent top 3 pick in the division. Flames probably would have to put one of Zary, Coronato, or Parekh on the table to get the player.

He is the exact type of piece Conroy wants but tough to see the Ducks accepting a package that does not contain even 1 top 5 prospect for the Flames in the offer.

Who would you have as our top 5 now?

Wolf
Parekh
Zary
Coronato
Honzek

is probably the way I see it

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Who would you have as our top 5 now?

Wolf
Parekh
Zary
Coronato
Honzek

is probably the way I see it

I would agree and think 3 of those guys will be graduated by the end of the year and even then I like many of our 24 picks more than the players listed in the quantity offer I quoted.

[sureLoss]

LeBrun on insider trading says the Canes are ready to make a move for a goalie to play behind Kochetkov now, but Calgary (Vladar), Ottawa (Forsberg), Utah (Vejmelka) are not ready to be sellers yet. Canes have checked on Gibson but the price needs to come down.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

There isn’t a chance in hell the Ducks accept these spare parts to trade a recent top 3 pick in the division. Flames probably would have to put one of Zary, Coronato, or Parekh on the table to get the player.

He is the exact type of piece Conroy wants but tough to see the Ducks accepting a package that does not contain even 1 top 5 prospect for the Flames in the offer.

I'm not sure they would get a top 5 prospect and a 1st round pick though - there isn't any precident for that. If it's a top 5 prospect then it's closer to a 1:1 trade with maybe a lower round pick attached.

Look at the Jiricek trade:

Hunt, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

Or Gauthier:

Drysdale (who was a bit of damaged goods on his own due to his play / injuries), 2nd

Or Dach (at the time of the trade he was the same age as McTavish):

1st (13th OV) and 3rd

I think something like Pospisil + 1st + Kuznetsov + Pick (2nd or 3rd) is actually pretty close to in line with some of these other packages, and I'd say the Dach/Jiricek packages are probably the closest in value to what they could expect for McTavish.

Originally Posted by sureLoss

LeBrun on insider trading says the Canes are ready to make a move for a goalie to play behind Kochetkov now, but Calgary (Vladar), Ottawa (Forsberg), Utah (Vejmelka) are not ready to be sellers yet. Canes have checked on Gibson but the price needs to come down.

If they want to trade us a 2nd then they can have Vladar now IMO.

But if all they are offering is a 3rd then the Flames might as well wait.

[FanSince'01]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I think some of the hype around Parekh is a bit overblown. Some around here were comparing him to Bobby Orr before the draft. That’s insane. If he was in that stratosphere, he would have gone 1OA.

I saw comparisons to Karlson but also saw comparisons to John Klingberg. The latter’s ceiling would have been top pair D. If he was as slam dunk top pairing D, I’d bet his spot on Team Canada would have been all but assured.

He’s a tremendous prospect and I hope he meets or even exceeds his potential but I think labelling his floor as a top pairing D might be a bit much. Of course, it’s one thing to be top pairing on certain teams and it’s another to be top pair on others.

Not that I disagree with your overall point here, but saying Parekh should be a lock for Team Canada is giving Hockey Canada waaaaaay too much credit that they actually know how to evaluate junior talent, especially when they have a history of making highly questionable roster picks for the World Junior team

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Fair enough. For me I wouldn't trade Parekh for McTavish. I can respect others opinions though.

I don't think I would either, but, for me, it's really close. I think McTavish also has a very high ceiling, and is the type of player that is very hard to acquire (obviously Parekh is as well)

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Sorry, no evidence that its a done deal guys I didn't mean to spark something lol

Spark something? Like a fire? Like when there's smoke, there's fire?

I'm assuming this is the discussion for the next 20-30 replies lol

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I don't think I would either, but, for me, it's really close. I think McTavish also has a very high ceiling, and is the type of player that is very hard to acquire (obviously Parekh is as well)

I'm not entirely sure either.

[ComixZone]

I think I’d stick with Parekh. That upside is too exciting. May not work out, but if it does?