2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

It seems whenever I read about Flames players being involved in trade rumors Kadri’s name always seems to be in the mix. Have to wonder if he has quietly asked out? Andersson still seems like the most logical trade piece but I suppose if the Flames can get out of the Kadri deal and extract some value that makes sense. I don’t agree with retaining on him for 4 more seasons however

Think its more, teams really need center's and Kadri fills a need.

Flames however, I can't see them moving their #1 center

They have zero depth at this position.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Yeah I was always a little leery about signing the guy to a big money contract, for sure.

Question is ... will he rebound or is the team in a systemic sinkhole that won't recover?

He's 5th on the team in xGF60, and with a bunch of players around 5% in on ice shooting percentage five on five (he's averaged 11% in his career).

I'd suggest he's do for a heater but then so are a half dozen players.

I don't see him as lazy though. Just nothing is working, and he's not shooting the puck ... shots/60 is cut in half vs averages.

You would think that eventually a few bounces will go his way but he's on pace for 3 goals this season. Even if he's not lazy, he's not the fleetest of foot and doesn't move the needle much. I was hoping at the very least he could have continued his hot hand on the powerplay but that's not even happening. We didn't hear peep from him after getting benched so at least he's being a good team player but there's just not a lot redeeming about the player when he's not producing points.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I wonder if Conroy would pull the trigger if the Sabers ask for Sharangovich in exchange for Cozens. I think this could be a good deal for both teams.

Huh I always forget about Sharky, but this is a good suggestion.

I wonder if Sharky+Andersson is the right mix for Byram+Cozens for instance.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Huh I always forget about Sharky, but this is a good suggestion.

I wonder if Sharky+Andersson is the right mix for Byram+Cozens for instance.

Andersson probably has Buffalo on his NTC. Forgot Sharangovich's contract hasn't started yet

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Two that come to mind are Jeff Carter when he was traded from Philly to Columbus and Mike Bunting signed a long term deal with the Hurricanes and was traded in his first season in the Guentzel deal

Can't speak for Bunting but Carter had issues that Yegor does not have which necessitated, and expedited, his movement.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Flames just extended Sharangovich. What team has done that? Traded the guy they just signed to a new contract?

As for Kuzmenko, wait for him to go on one of his streaks and get what you can at that time.

Tkachuk

[Toonage]

lol touche

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Sandman

If Dallas won’t part with Bourque, Bichsel or Stankoven as they claim, then there’s not much of interest in their system. I like D Tristan Bertucci a lot, but not as the centerpiece of a trade involving Kadri or Andersson. I hope we’re hunting bigger game.

RW Emil Hemming would be a good name, but he doesn’t fill an organizational need for us, and he’s struggling to put up numbers in the OHL.

Saw Hemming at the teddy bear brawl game in Ottawa, he was not noticeable at all. Beaudoin did look like a solid 200 foot 2nd/3rd line center in the making though.

[GioforPM]

Seriously, there are a few examples of guys signed and then traded within a season. Seguin was extended by Boston but traded before the extension started. Jeff Carter signed a big deal with Philly and was shipped to Columbus 7 months later. Setoguchi, I think. Marco Sturm. Hagelin.

[Toonage]

I guess my point is, its rare, and its not happening here.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Bingo

He's streaky as hell but he's the 40th most productive NHL forward over the last three years five on five.

I was talking about an offensive rebound specifically, which seems likely.

Sounds like you're talking about discovering his inner Patrice Bergeron, which I would agree is unlikely.

What about the last two years?

No, I'm speaking strictly offence.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I guess my point is, its rare, and its not happening here.

But why not?

This is exactly what I keep talking about. We need to throw away our attachment to the way things have been done here. The way things have been done here doesn't work.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by flambers

Think its more, teams really need center's and Kadri fills a need.

Flames however, I can't see them moving their #1 center

They have zero depth at this position.

This is also why I do t think buffalo will be just giving away cozens. If he is in market there will be multiple teams looking to grab him. If a team thinks he is a solution to being a 2nd line center for the foreseeable future it’s going to cost assets. With rising cap $7 million goi g forward for a 2nd line center is about right. I think it was Paulie saying cozens will need retention. Not a chance.

[Aarongavey]

If the Flames could do some version of the Hertl trade with Dallas it might make sense for both teams. Would allow Dallas to add other pieces

Kadri (20% retained) 2025 3rd and 2026 3rd for

Bourque
2025 1st

Gives the Stars a pretty deep forward group for a run with cap space for another dman, especially if a trade like that happens near the deadline.

[Toonage]

He was just signed after being targeted and traded for.

The Flames need to do business a particular way and that isn't it.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Toonage

He was just signed after being targeted and traded for.

The Flames need to do business a particular way and that isn't it.

Totally disagree. You are entitled to think that way, but again I point to our dogmatic insistence on acting a certain way creating distinct disadvantages for the club over the last 20 years.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

If the Flames could do some version of the Hertl trade with Dallas it might make sense for both teams. Would allow Dallas to add other pieces

Kadri (20% retained) 2025 3rd and 2026 3rd for

Bourque
2025 1st

Gives the Stars a pretty deep forward group for a run with cap space for another dman, especially if a trade like that happens near the deadline.

I just don't see the Stars giving up both Bourque and a 1st for an older player not having a great year with an expensive long term contract.

I get the retention for 4+ years, but also wonder if the Flames are prepared to do that? I hope they would for that return.

[Monahammer]

I think Wheatcroft is a much more reasonable target center from the stars. He's a calgarian, he plays center, and he has shown flashes of Offensive power in the past. He's more of a complimentary offensive player than a real all star. Started really strong in the AHL this season but has cooled off.

[gvitaly]

Speaking of Sharangovich, he has a 10 team NTC in his new contract. Can someone remind me if in the new CBA that no trade extends to this season (the last year of his previous contract)?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by BigThief

What about the last two years?

No, I'm speaking strictly offence.

Last two years he's still at 165th or a second line player on the average team.