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Old 12-06-2024, 02:45 PM   #1141
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89 urinals seems like a low number for an 18,000 seater?

What does the dome currently have?
but what if it was 89 of these

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The bathroom situation is so simple, gender neutral bathrooms with private full doors then a row of sinks opposite. The need for men's or women's bathrooms that flex depending on the event is needless work.

Family bathrooms with changing stations etc can still be scattered throughout the venue.
That would take up so much room. You could fit 30 urinals in the space you would need for 10 gender neutral bathrooms.
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Old 12-06-2024, 02:49 PM   #1144
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That would take up so much room. You could fit 30 urinals in the space you would need for 10 gender neutral bathrooms.
Plants in the concourse solves that
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The bathroom situation is so simple, gender neutral bathrooms with private full doors then a row of sinks opposite. The need for men's or women's bathrooms that flex depending on the event is needless work.

Family bathrooms with changing stations etc can still be scattered throughout the venue.
Nah.
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The building also give the Flames, Wranglers, and Hitmen their own dressing rooms and team spaces. It also provides dressing rooms for visiting teams for each league as well, so there could be 6 different teams in the building at one time. This will also be useful for hosting big tournaments.
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Old 12-06-2024, 02:57 PM   #1147
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Really appreciate the color coding of different zones. Do you have something similar for the other levels to help simplify the plans?
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One thing I found funny is the AHL dressing room is slightly bigger than the NHL one. I assume that's because the AHL doesn't have the same roster limits the NHL does, so they may need to fit more players in the room.
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Seems like a long walk to the ice. Then again I have no idea if that's standard for nhl facilities.

Rip players hobbling off to the room after tweaking something.
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Old 12-06-2024, 03:20 PM   #1150
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Whatever.

I'm sad it's a smaller rink.

Going to that cavern in Montreal is something special and I wish we were doing that.
Someone doesn’t remember the Save the Flames era
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The outside is a huge improvement as well. It looks much better and much less like a ####ty rural arena wearing some sort of hat. Will actually compliment the BMO center and nearby library in design it seems, for example.
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Seems like a long walk to the ice. Then again I have no idea if that's standard for nhl facilities.

Rip players hobbling off to the room after tweaking something.
For the Flames, it looks like it's a little bit more than the width of the rink... likely a little over 100 feet. I don't think it's much more than what they have to walk in the Dome.

The Hitmen will have the longest walk. Good thing they're young and spry.
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Nah.
Why? Do you leave your hog out when you go to the sink to wash after and are worried you'll embarrass yourself in front of the ladies?

For many public washroom scenarios, this makes a ton of sense.

I agree for a stadium, not as much because urinals are so damn space efficient. In parts of the world they have urinals in the street, and I'm not too concerned about a woman walking behind me while I'm at the urinal. Personally there would be no problem using a urinal in a gender neutral bathroom.

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Someone doesn’t remember the Save the Flames era
That was a lifetime ago. The economics of the NHL are different now.

More seats = cheaper seats which of course is a non-starter. Murray Edwards needs to eat too.
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Really appreciate the color coding of different zones. Do you have something similar for the other levels to help simplify the plans?
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Why? Do you leave your hog out when you go to the sink to wash after and are worried you'll embarrass yourself in front of the ladies?
100% he has no idea what a gender neutral bathroom actually is.
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Am I see it correctly that the suites won't have a washroom anymore in each one?
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Wish I could thank this multiple times! much appreciated
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Am I see it correctly that the suites won't have a washroom anymore in each one?
Correct.

Only suite with its own washroom is the double owners suite.
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