2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

It would appear this would be an incorrect assessment.

Kadri controls everything, and apparently a 5th is on offer. He's 34 year old centre on the decline who isn't strong defensively and has 3 more seasons on his contract after this year.

Vladar would be traded if someone was offering a 2nd, so you can safely assume a 3rd is current value in my eyes.

Kuz is $5.5M healthy scratch cap dump.

So, that's a 3rd+5th. Not a 1st.

First, the Kadri offer isn't a 5th.

And second, just because something is currently what's on the table, that doesn't mean it is all the player is worth.

Suggesting Kadri retained, plus Vladar is worth a 3rd + 5th is ridiculous.

You would trade all of our assets for pennies.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

First, the Kadri offer isn't a 5th.

And second, just because something is currently what's on the table, that doesn't mean it is all the player is worth.

Suggesting Kadri retained, plus Vladar is worth a 3rd + 5th is ridiculous.

You would trade all of our assets for pennies.

No I wouldn't, but it's understanding that Kadri controls the entire situation. So if Kadri says the only place he'll accept a trade is Toronto, then Toronto is the only team negotiating. Likely results in a very poor offer, which means Conroy probably doesn't trade him.

Vladar for a 3rd may just be the value. That's not bad value for an expiring goalie with little track record, especially when the Flames have Cooley just waiting to get called up (a call up that he's earned).

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

If Kadri would only waive for Toronto, then yes he does.

Even if Kadri were only willing to waive for Toronto, he still doesn't - it takes two to make a market.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Kadri isn’t going to waive to go to another Flames situation. If he waives it’s to a contender and those are the teams without assets and cap space.

Hes probably worth to us right now. Trading him for a 5th with retention would be one of the worst trades ever and I especially wouldn’t trade him to Treliving and Toronto.

In fact it would be fun to screw him over. Keep him in the mix and send Kadri elsewhere for less. Classic Treliving in it the whole time but can’t close the deal.

[Enoch Root]

Highly unlikely that Kadri limits the choice to Toronto - no one wants to spend 7 years playing for a rebuild.

But let's say he does, for the sake of argument... if Treliving wants to play that kind of hardball, for a guy that HE signed, the ONLY answer is for Conroy to laugh and hang up.

If that's the offer, Conroy says to Kadri that he isn't going anywhere. And then Kadri's list miraculously gets longer.

[Harry Lime]

Off topic, but Juuso Parssinen has been scratched 4 out of the last 5 games in Nashville. They seem determined to crush his confidence after a promising start to his career. They are also a tire fire on defense.

Opportunity to move a Miromanov to Nashville and bring up Soloyov?

Timing is not great in terms of having spots available at forward, but there will be. There will be.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Off topic, but Juuso Parssinen has been scratched 4 out of the last 5 games in Nashville. They seem determined to crush his confidence after a promising start to his career. They are also a tire fire on defense.

Opportunity to move a Miromanov to Nashville and bring up Soloyov?

Timing is not great in terms of having spots available at forward, but there will be. There will be.

He was just starting to produce as well.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Highly unlikely that Kadri limits the choice to Toronto - no one wants to spend 7 years playing for a rebuild.

But let's say he does, for the sake of argument... if Treliving wants to play that kind of hardball, for a guy that HE signed, the ONLY answer is for Conroy to laugh and hang up.

If that's the offer, Conroy says to Kadri that he isn't going anywhere. And then Kadri's list miraculously gets longer.

I have a hard time seeing Edwards agreeing to pay for a portion of the Kadri contract so he could go and play for the GM that made this mess, and by all counts left on bad terms.

[Harry Lime]

It's not out of the realm of possibility that Conroy gets a redo on Kadri, and very little in return. That would come after a Toronto cap clearing move. There is no other way it happens. Kadri would be the second domino, and that's only if he waives.

[D as in David]

Backlund is a possible trade chip at next year's TDL so keeping Kadri as a veteran centre wouldn't be the worst thing.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Backlund is a possible trade chip at next year's TDL so keeping Kadri as a veteran centre wouldn't be the worst thing.

You just don't do it unless he asks

[Paulie Walnuts]

Iggy was traded I see zero issue asking Backlund next season.

[dino7c]

You don't trade Kadri just to trade him, guys is one of the few marketable players on the team. Cap space is a non issue as well.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Agree you don’t trade him for the sake of trading him. But you also don’t keep him because he is marketable. If you get the right offer and he is willing to move you do it.

[stemit14]

It’s not a pressing issue to trade Kadri this year but, if they did, it would have the benefit of opening a spot for a young center if Conroy succeeds in acquiring one through trading a player like Andersson. That’s of course assuming Zary stays at centre - which I hope he does.

Although Kadri or Backlund could always be moved down the lineup as they get older in favour of younger centres if they are ready.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We can’t just ship them away. We need replacements ready to go which we have zero of.

I doubt Conory finds that piece on the trade market. It’s not like we are the only team after that type of player.

Why having all these picks in the next few drafts is important. We need to draft some centers.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You don't trade Kadri just to trade him, guys is one of the few marketable players on the team. Cap space is a non issue as well.

And he doesn't make a stupid amount and is not dragging the team down.

Some can come and make an offer, but he's a fine guy to stay here and be a veteran Stanley Cup winner presence.

We CAN NOT lock up our retention positions for longer than a year, we already did with Markstrom. All of that value over Kadris contract would not be worth what he could ever bring back.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Chicago seems like a good team to use in brokering long term retention. The buying team can pay Chicago to retain whatever they need.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Chicago seems like a good team to use in brokering long term retention. The buying team can pay Chicago to retain whatever they need.

Why?

Chicago is a lot closer to contending than the Flames are. Chicago isn’t going to want to tie up cap space with dead money.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Why?

Chicago is a lot closer to contending than the Flames are. Chicago isn’t going to want to tie up cap space with dead money.

They are?
Someone would have assumed that with Eichel and the Sabres a decade ago but here we are

not to suggest they are looking for Kadri or he is looking for them