Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Off Topic Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-30-2024, 11:12 AM   #2141
Locke
Franchise Player
 
Locke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
Exp:
Default

I want ownership of American Samoa.

Join Canada Samoa! We have cookies and Maple Syrup!

You could be Canadian Samoa! Wouldnt that be better?
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!

This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.

The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans

If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
Locke is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2024, 11:41 AM   #2142
Harry Lime
Franchise Player
 
Harry Lime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Exp:
Default

Most American territories are treated pretty poorly, and people don't even know that they are American territories.

The United States has five permanently inhabited territories:

Puerto Rico: Located in the Caribbean Sea
U.S. Virgin Islands: Located in the Caribbean Sea
Guam: Located in the North Pacific Ocean
Northern Mariana Islands: Located in the North Pacific Ocean
American Samoa: Located in the South Pacific Ocean, 2,200 miles southwest of Hawaii
__________________
"By Grabthar's hammer ... what a savings."
Harry Lime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2024, 11:43 AM   #2143
Locke
Franchise Player
 
Locke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
Exp:
Default

Go Fighting Land Crabs!
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!

This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.

The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans

If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
Locke is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2024, 12:10 PM   #2144
CliffFletcher
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: May 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nfotiu View Post
By what measure? I don't see any blue or purple states voting for someone like Danielle Smith as governor.

Alberta looks like a lot of states politically. Metro areas are fairly liberal, rural areas very conservative. I don't know that many US metro areas that vote as conservatively as Calgary does though.
This data is a couple years old. I can provide links to the sources if you want.

Per cent of population who are highly religious

Texas 64
Colorado 47
Massachusetts 33
Alberta 29

Per cent who think abortion should be illegal in all or most cases

Texas 50
Colorado 36
Massachusetts 22
Alberta 8

Per cent who believe gay marriages should be not be recognized

Texas 46
Colorado 31
Massachusetts 20
Alberta 22

Per cent who support Trump

Texas 52
Colorado 42
Massachusetts 32
Alberta 32

The U.S. is just way more socially conservative than Canada, pretty much across the board.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze View Post
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.

Last edited by CliffFletcher; 11-30-2024 at 12:12 PM.
CliffFletcher is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to CliffFletcher For This Useful Post:
Old 11-30-2024, 01:27 PM   #2145
Bill Bumface
My face is a bum!
 
Bill Bumface's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brendone View Post
Minor revision please. Gives more options to get from Alberta to the coast, plus there’s some good camping in NW Montana and Idaho. I’m sure we can persuade some mouth breathers to clear out of that zone with some kind of “free Subaru / mystery box” offer if they move east or south?
That part of Idaho that you circled is the heartland of crazy. Driving the US 95 through there you feel like you're trespassing on the private land of a giant cult compound.

While we're at it, the line through Washington and Oregon needs to be way closer to the coast. That is a serious pocket of crazy.
Bill Bumface is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bill Bumface For This Useful Post:
Old 11-30-2024, 03:58 PM   #2146
Aarongavey
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
This data is a couple years old. I can provide links to the sources if you want.

Per cent of population who are highly religious

Texas 64
Colorado 47
Massachusetts 33
Alberta 29

Per cent who think abortion should be illegal in all or most cases

Texas 50
Colorado 36
Massachusetts 22
Alberta 8

Per cent who believe gay marriages should be not be recognized

Texas 46
Colorado 31
Massachusetts 20
Alberta 22

Per cent who support Trump

Texas 52
Colorado 42
Massachusetts 32
Alberta 32

The U.S. is just way more socially conservative than Canada, pretty much across the board.
Would love links to the sources.
Aarongavey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2024, 04:27 PM   #2147
GirlySports
NOT breaking news
 
GirlySports's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Abortion is a non issue in Canada. The federal government deems it legal and passes it onto the provinces. Almost all of them provide legal abortion up to 24 weeks.

Guns would be an interesting one, I think it would be high for Alberta.
__________________
Watching the Oilers defend is like watching fire engines frantically rushing to the wrong fire

GirlySports is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2024, 04:51 PM   #2148
BigThief
First Line Centre
 
BigThief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2024
Exp:
Default

Abortion was a non issue in America too, until it wasn't. Anyone who brought up women's health and worrying about losing rights to that procedure was (and is) told that it isn't something to worry about.

It's been less than ten years that abortion has been available in PEI. Brian Mulrony tried to ban it when he was PM decades ago and the socially Christian right has only grown stronger since
__________________
MMF is the tough as nails cop that "plays by his own rules". The force keeps suspending him when he crosses the line but he keeps coming back and then cracks a big case.
-JiriHrdina

Last edited by BigThief; 11-30-2024 at 04:56 PM.
BigThief is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to BigThief For This Useful Post:
Old 11-30-2024, 05:07 PM   #2149
EldrickOnIce
Franchise Player
 
EldrickOnIce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
This data is a couple years old. I can provide links to the sources if you want.

Per cent of population who are highly religious

Texas 64
Colorado 47
Massachusetts 33
Alberta 29

Per cent who think abortion should be illegal in all or most cases

Texas 50
Colorado 36
Massachusetts 22
Alberta 8

Per cent who believe gay marriages should be not be recognized

Texas 46
Colorado 31
Massachusetts 20
Alberta 22

Per cent who support Trump

Texas 52
Colorado 42
Massachusetts 32
Alberta 32

The U.S. is just way more socially conservative than Canada, pretty much across the board.
Please explain electing Danielle Smith. These are not numbers that should ever result in a 'Smith' type as premier, correct? Or these are polling numbers that are pretty much useless when it comes to who forms the government?
Because of you look at an AB political map it looks almost exactly like an Illinois map. A couple bright blue areas surrounded by a sea of red. And yet Illinois is always one of the more progressive states.
So I guess that's what it shows - even the most 'progressive' states lag significantly behind Canada's least progressive provinces?
EldrickOnIce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2024, 05:26 PM   #2150
DownInFlames
Craig McTavish' Merkin
 
DownInFlames's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce View Post
Please explain electing Danielle Smith. These are not numbers that should ever result in a 'Smith' type as premier, correct? Or these are polling numbers that are pretty much useless when it comes to who forms the government?
Because of you look at an AB political map it looks almost exactly like an Illinois map. A couple bright blue areas surrounded by a sea of red. And yet Illinois is always one of the more progressive states.
So I guess that's what it shows - even the most 'progressive' states lag significantly behind Canada's least progressive provinces?
Albertans, especially in the cities, are more fiscally conservative than socially. There’s also huge ties to oil and gas obviously. People vote for their own interests and the NDP has a reputation of big spenders who hate oil, so here we are.

Most of us have lived our entire lives under Conservative rules, and things have been pretty good. It was only recently that they started courting the wackos who want to ban abortions, free healthcare, and the gays.
DownInFlames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2024, 05:35 PM   #2151
FlamesAddiction
Franchise Player
 
FlamesAddiction's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DownInFlames View Post
Albertans, especially in the cities, are more fiscally conservative than socially. There’s also huge ties to oil and gas obviously. People vote for their own interests and the NDP has a reputation of big spenders who hate oil, so here we are.

Most of us have lived our entire lives under Conservative rules, and things have been pretty good. It was only recently that they started courting the wackos who want to ban abortions, free healthcare, and the gays.
There also seems to be more old school libertarian types in Alberta. People who might be morally opposed to something, but still do not believe the government should be legislating stuff around it. I know people for example who are morally opposed to abortion on some level, but are still "pro-choice" when it comes to the legal side of it. Just because they don't like, doesn't mean it should be illegal.

My gut feeling tells me that religious conservatives in the U.S. are less libertarian and rather believe that the government should be used to dictate morality.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
FlamesAddiction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2024, 08:16 PM   #2152
GullFoss
#1 Goaltender
 
GullFoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Exp:
Default

Wild...looks like he can quickly negotiate peace on two fronts.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...itory-ukraine/
GullFoss is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to GullFoss For This Useful Post:
Old 11-30-2024, 08:26 PM   #2153
Looch City
Looooooooooooooch
 
Looch City's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Exp:
Default

He should legit be awarded the Nobel Peace prize.

What a guy. This is astounding work and it's not even January yet!
Looch City is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2024, 09:26 PM   #2154
afc wimbledon
Franchise Player
 
afc wimbledon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
Exp:
Default

afc wimbledon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2024, 10:37 PM   #2155
DownInFlames
Craig McTavish' Merkin
 
DownInFlames's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss View Post
Wild...looks like he can quickly negotiate peace on two fronts.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...itory-ukraine/
Negotiate? Trump is going to hang them out to dry so Ukraine is desperate. He’s giving them no choice. It’s like threatening to throw your 6-year-old out of the house if they don’t eat their vegetables and saying you’re a great parent because they complied.
DownInFlames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2024, 10:49 PM   #2156
FlamesAddiction
Franchise Player
 
FlamesAddiction's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

It's pandering for a dictator's favour. The long term implications of letting Russia meet it's imperialist goals by conquest isn't peace. It's capitulation.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
FlamesAddiction is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to FlamesAddiction For This Useful Post:
Old 11-30-2024, 11:27 PM   #2157
GGG
Franchise Player
 
GGG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss View Post
Wild...looks like he can quickly negotiate peace on two fronts.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...itory-ukraine/
When you aren’t going to stop a more powerful nation massacre the weaker nation and you are not concerned with who ends up with what territory peace making is easy on every front.
GGG is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to GGG For This Useful Post:
Old 12-01-2024, 01:31 AM   #2158
Snuffleupagus
Franchise Player
 
Snuffleupagus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
This data is a couple years old. I can provide links to the sources if you want.

Per cent of population who are highly religious

Texas 64
Colorado 47
Massachusetts 33
Alberta 29

Per cent who think abortion should be illegal in all or most cases

Texas 50
Colorado 36
Massachusetts 22
Alberta 8

Per cent who believe gay marriages should be not be recognized

Texas 46
Colorado 31
Massachusetts 20
Alberta 22

Per cent who support Trump

Texas 52
Colorado 42
Massachusetts 32
Alberta 32

The U.S. is just way more socially conservative than Canada, pretty much across the board.
Maybe I wrong but I just think the southern U.S is just far more stupid with lower IQ than Canada
Snuffleupagus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2024, 09:24 AM   #2159
CliffFletcher
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: May 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey View Post
Would love links to the sources.
* The definition in the Pew study cited is "any adult who reports at least two of four highly observant behaviors – attending religious services at least weekly, praying at least daily, believing in God with absolute certainty and saying that religion is very important to them — while not reporting a low level of religious observance in any of these areas." https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...e/?state=texas

Alberta is not included in the study, but I used the data from an Angus Reid poll that defines religiously committed as "hold a strong belief in God or a higher power and regularly attend religious services." https://angusreid.org/religion-in-canada-150/

** https://www.pewresearch.org/religion...tion/by/state/

https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/news-pol...ight-to-choose

*** https://www.pewresearch.org/religion...iage/by/state/

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/only-64-of-can...poll-1.4533222

**** U.S. data is election results. Alberta is response to question posed Sep 2020 "would you support Trump if you could vote in the U.S. election?" https://www.macleans.ca/politics/how...d-trump-a-lot/
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze View Post
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
CliffFletcher is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to CliffFletcher For This Useful Post:
GGG
Old 12-01-2024, 09:39 AM   #2160
CliffFletcher
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: May 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce View Post
Please explain electing Danielle Smith.
The Conservatives win in Alberta all the time because they run on resentment of Ottawa, and there’s a strong anti-tax sentiment in this province. However, Albertans still pay high taxes by American standards (I haven’t looked into it, but I’d wager higher than Colorado*), and express strong support things like universal public health care and education.

As for why Smith won the UCP nomination, it’s because only a tiny fraction of the population participates in party leadership races, and the UCP were taken over by rural delegates who were furious about covid mandates. But even there, Albertans got vaccinated for covid at higher rates than the population of Colorado.

Alberta
1 dose: 82 per cent
2 doses: 78

Colorado
1 dose: 82 per cent
2 doses: 72 per cent

Political parties today are vulnerable to being taken over by small but extreme elements because social media enables them to organize and bypass gatekeepers.

* Edit: Found this table showing Albertans pay higher income taxes than Californians, and much higher than Colorado.

https://thehub.ca/2024/07/08/canadas...income-levels/
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze View Post
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.

Last edited by CliffFletcher; 12-01-2024 at 09:44 AM.
CliffFletcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:11 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy