"Maybe if you’ve been in a real fight, you might not be so keen for another."
I've been in some fights, truthfully didn't enjoy.
The best part of the story was my friend trying to type our history prof with a swollen hand about why his paper that was due on Monday was going to be late as a result.
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Thats why Flames fans make ideal Star Trek fans. We've really been taught to embrace the self-loathing and extreme criticism.
Yeah, that scene in one of the Ip Man movies where he beats up like 10 Japanese karate dudes during the Japanese invasion of China, making sure he does that 25 punch speed bag thing on each person's chest/head is probably the peak.
Good on Biz for stepping in and helping the restaurant staff out.
We need more of that in these times where no one seems to help strangers with anything and just pull out there phones.
But I understand the hesitation to put yourself in harms way for most people too I guess.
However I also agree with the poster who said he lit the match by grabbing the guys arm and threatening to take him outside. He probably could have gone about it differently to deescalate.
Impossible to say for sure without being there though.
Biz might have been sitting watching these guys act like complete degenerates for an hour, verbally abusing wait staff and just being rude. He also might have just seen this play out numerous times before and decided to say something. Chances are that you aren't reasoning with these jerks if they're already acting like that anyway, and it sounds like reason had long passed.
I applaud him for standing up for the little guy in this situation. As you say there are way too many 'experts' in these situations that just pull out a phone or preach de-escalation on a message board. Sometime people like this simply need to be bluntly told to shut up. It's unfortunate it lead to violence, but it's really a great outcome that nobody is hurt, and these degens learned a lesson (hopefully).
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The point is that there is nowhere on earth populated with more experts on fighting and what works/doesn't work/etc. than an internet forum. And that almost every opinion is backed by false confidence based on limited (and often fictional) experience.
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Biz might have been sitting watching these guys act like complete degenerates for an hour, verbally abusing wait staff and just being rude. He also might have just seen this play out numerous times before and decided to say something. Chances are that you aren't reasoning with these jerks if they're already acting like that anyway, and it sounds like reason had long passed.
I applaud him for standing up for the little guy in this situation. As you say there are way too many 'experts' in these situations that just pull out a phone or preach de-escalation on a message board. Sometime people like this simply need to be bluntly told to shut up. It's unfortunate it lead to violence, but it's really a great outcome that nobody is hurt, and these degens learned a lesson (hopefully).
This doesn't match his own report of the incident if you watch his video, but I agree we don't know exactly what happened without being there.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt based on what we can know.
The point is that there is nowhere on earth populated with more experts on fighting and what works/doesn't work/etc. than an internet forum. And that almost every opinion is backed by false confidence based on limited (and often fictional) experience.
Thanks for laying that out plainly, sometimes I forget that some of these guys have had so many fictional hits to the head from the fights they’ve daydreamed about having that they need things in more simple terms.
Good on Biz for stepping in and helping the restaurant staff out.
We need more of that in these times where no one seems to help strangers with anything and just pull out there phones.
But I understand the hesitation to put yourself in harms way for most people too I guess.
However I also agree with the poster who said he lit the match by grabbing the guys arm and threatening to take him outside. He probably could have gone about it differently to deescalate.
Impossible to say for sure without being there though.
Exactly, we would all have the benefit of hindsight and the lens through the follow up public scrutiny, especially a guy who has dedicated most of his professional life of protecting his friends and colleagues in a meathead sport who reward the biggest of meatheads. His approach was frankly ridiculously restrained thinking of that.
Yeah, that scene in one of the Ip Man movies where he beats up like 10 Japanese karate dudes during the Japanese invasion of China, making sure he does that 25 punch speed bag thing on each person's chest/head is probably the peak.
This is how I start all my fights. Walk into a crowded venue when I need to blow off steam - typically a dojo that's in session - and announce that I want to fight ten people. Never fails.
MMA becoming a popular sport has kind of skewed what people think fighting is. The first couple of years of UFC were pretty close to the truth of what can happen, and a lot of people got hurt in those early bouts, and it wasn't pretty. There are a lot of rules in MMA to stop the type of things that go on in a street fight.
Anyway, 95% of fights are punching and kicking, like this one.
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