2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Not only does it not make sense for on ice reasons, I don’t think it makes sense off the ice either. From what I understand, Kuzmenko is well liked in the room. What would the Flames be interested in shipping him out for a guy who’s older, has more baggage, and would likely be an equal, or worse, asset by the deadline?

I’m sure all the guys, Kuzmenko included, can see that he’s all but certainly going to be moved by the deadline but they probably also anticipate that it will be because the organization is moving in a younger direction. Adding an older player at similar, or worse, value is at complete odds to what the Flames have said publicly and, likely, privately.

If they say they are going to do something, ie get younger, then why wouldn’t they follow through on that? At least the guys in the room would understand that.

Well said. All I can add is bringing in James Neal 2.0 probably isn’t a good idea.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Well said. All I can add is bringing in James Neal 2.0 probably isn’t a good idea.

Well, I don’t know if Hall is a bad teammate or anything, I just don’t see any benefit whatsoever in making that move.

I think it’s completely within reason to think Kuzmenko will put up better numbers than Hall will between now and the deadline and he’s, what, 5 years younger and on a cheaper deal?

Honestly, there’s not one reason why I think that would be a good trade for the Flames. Then again the idea came from a guy who is as horny as anyone for the Flames to be as bad as possible so they can draft top three, or whatever.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Shazam

But why.

If Kuzy isn't worth any futures, pieces that are struggling on both teams could be swapped.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

If Kuzy isn't worth any futures, pieces that are struggling on both teams could be swapped.

….i don’t think you have really thought this through.

Other than making a trade for the sake of making a trade, what is the insensitive for the Flames? Add salary? Get older? Get rid of a guy who is liked by his teammates?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by TOfan

….i don’t think you have really thought this through.

Other than making a trade for the sake of making a trade, what is the insensitive for the Flames? Add salary? Get older? Get rid of a guy who is liked by his teammates?

Who cares if he's liked if he's not producing?

If the true intention is to be competitive, then Kuzmenko isn't helping. Could Hall? Who knows, change of scenery could assist both players.

Again, only if Kuzy has no value when it comes to futures.

Both players are pending UFAs, Flames have been attached to Hall in rumours before...but yes, it's very much a largely irrelevant trade just about swapping under-performing ineffective players.

[Poe969]

It might be worth getting Hall just for the draft lottery.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I wonder if Jiricek for Zegras could be the basis of a deal

[Snuffleupagus]

Kuzmenko hasn't been great but he's still been better than Hall, unless Chicago wants to add an overpayment pick Conroy will keep him.

[FlamesAddiction]

I wouldn't be shocked to see Kuzmenko pick up his production. I mean, the powerplay can stay this bad forever, right? At least I hope.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I wonder if Jiricek for Zegras could be the basis of a deal

I could see that happening, but I personally wouldn't do it. I think Z might be a real problem in the room. Maybe Boone Jenner or Gudbranson could straighten him out.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I wouldn't be shocked to see Kuzmenko pick up his production. I mean, the powerplay can stay this bad forever, right? At least I hope.

I am guessing you will be right. I think once he finds it, it'll stick for him too the rest of the way.

[Ped]

Kuzmenko is streaky. As I posted earlier, he had 8 points in his first 18 games with the Flames, and then 17 in his next 11.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Who cares if he's liked if he's not producing?

If the true intention is to be competitive, then Kuzmenko isn't helping. Could Hall? Who knows, change of scenery could assist both players.

Again, only if Kuzy has no value when it comes to futures.

Both players are pending UFAs, Flames have been attached to Hall in rumours before...but yes, it's very much a largely irrelevant trade just about swapping under-performing ineffective players.

It’s a bad idea.

Kuzmenko likely has higher value do to recent performance and durability. He makes less and is younger by a decent margin.

‘Who cares’ if he’s liked by his teammates is a weak argument as well. How organizations treat people, even if they are not long term players, matters.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TOfan

….i don’t think you have really thought this through.

Other than making a trade for the sake of making a trade, what is the insensitive for the Flames? Add salary? Get older? Get rid of a guy who is liked by his teammates?

Conroy has thought it through. Hall gets teams the 1st overall

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Ped

Kuzmenko is streaky. As I posted earlier, he had 8 points in his first 18 games with the Flames, and then 17 in his next 11.

Yup, and for any claims about him 'struggling', he's tied for 3rd for points on the Flames and leading in assists. Not lighting the world on fire but far from dead weight.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Who cares if he's liked if he's not producing?

If the true intention is to be competitive, then Kuzmenko isn't helping. Could Hall? Who knows, change of scenery could assist both players.

Again, only if Kuzy has no value when it comes to futures.

Both players are pending UFAs, Flames have been attached to Hall in rumours before...but yes, it's very much a largely irrelevant trade just about swapping under-performing ineffective players.

LOL, not producing..... checks stats and leading the team in assists.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

LOL, not producing..... checks stats and leading the team in assists.

Yep, out producing golden boy Zary, whom many believes deserves 7m x 8

[Shazam]

Facts have no place in this discussion.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Yep, out producing golden boy Zary, whom many believes deserves 7m x 8

Omitting the obvious differences between the two isn't exactly a great rebuttal.

Zary is much younger, coming into his own and not an upcoming UFA. Oh and is going to be a top 9 center long term for this team .

Signing Zary long term for under 8 is an investment and has no bearing on Kuzmenkos future with the Flames.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Small update, Flames have checked in on the cost of Jiricek, price too high.
Feeling still like Calgary and Buffalo may dance here, nothing imminent but teams have had more than a few calls in the last few weeks.

They’re interested in Rasmus, Blake, Naz and Martin but if things get real I think other surprise teams would come to the table.

I’m not saying Calgary is looking to move these guys but teams see a lot of parts here in Calgary.

One team has checked to see if Backlund is available but Craig said No.