11-14-2024, 11:40 AM
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Nichuskin seems to be a real key cog for the Avalanche. When he can play he seems to tip the balance for them that let's them be a powerhouse where they have a top line that produces, but also gets enough from the rest of the lineup so it's not such a top heavy team. Drouin will help with that too.
Landeskog will be a wild card. He'll be 32 and have missed the equivalent of 3 full seasons when he returns. Even as a third line type he could boost their overall depth. But that's a lot of time to miss and that's getting to be pretty old in this league. But maybe he's primed for a Teemu Selanne like late career surge if he's fully healthy.
Good time to bet Avs futures off their slow start and Wiinipeg being so good to start the season.
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11-14-2024, 12:25 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Funkhouser
Any capologists want to explain the AVs situation if/when Landy comes back??
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He will practice until game one of the playoffs.
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11-14-2024, 12:30 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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That'll be a Vegas-esque level up.
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11-14-2024, 06:52 PM
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#24
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Calgary
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With the Flames not really looking to make a deep run this year barring some cinderella story, I hope 7 Western Conference teams all load up at the deadline and/or maximize whatever LTIR gains they can. Screw the Oilers. If they even make the playoffs.
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11-14-2024, 08:30 PM
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#25
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
He will practice until game one of the playoffs.
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Lmao you've been pumping that narrative for two years now.
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11-14-2024, 08:35 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by ThatHighGuy
I wouldn't be too worried about Mackinnon. Guy is a freak
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Still human
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11-15-2024, 12:26 AM
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#27
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2023
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Great news for Avs fans, an entire line back and much needed depth. Glad we don’t got the Avs until the new year.
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11-15-2024, 12:30 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Landeskog is one of my favourite non-Flames players. It really sucks how derailed his career has been because of injuries. It seems unlikely after missing so much time that he can pick up where he left off, but I'm rooting for him.
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11-15-2024, 12:43 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by BigThief
Lmao you've been pumping that narrative for two years now.
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To be fair he's going off precedence and if Landeskog is healed up the Av's will do it too.
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11-15-2024, 06:10 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
To be fair he's going off precedence and if Landeskog is healed up the Av's will do it too.
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Nah. He's not going to be very useful for the Avs stepping right into the playoffs after not playing a regular NHL game for several years. They would need to get him into the lineup by March at the latest.
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11-15-2024, 08:39 AM
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Franchise Player
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Yeah, I would think he would need at least a month of games, if not 2, in order to be at all effective in the playoffs. And even that would be minimal effectiveness.
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11-15-2024, 10:02 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Nah. He's not going to be very useful for the Avs stepping right into the playoffs after not playing a regular NHL game for several years. They would need to get him into the lineup by March at the latest.
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The same thing was said after Kucherov missed a whole season and then came back. High level players get up to speed pretty fast, especially if they take an extended period of time in practices. They might not be totally up to game speed but they also have the advantage of being totally rested while everyone else has the wear and tear of an 82 game season.
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11-15-2024, 10:08 AM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
The same thing was said after Kucherov missed a whole season and then came back. High level players get up to speed pretty fast, especially if they take an extended period of time in practices. They might not be totally up to game speed but they also have the advantage of being totally rested while everyone else has the wear and tear of an 82 game season.
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True. But Kucherov was 28, missed one year, and his value comes from his hands.
Landeskog is 31, has missed 2 years, and his legs are more important to his value than Kucherov's.
Also, Kucherov was the exception, on this issue.
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11-15-2024, 10:28 AM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
The same thing was said after Kucherov missed a whole season and then came back. High level players get up to speed pretty fast, especially if they take an extended period of time in practices. They might not be totally up to game speed but they also have the advantage of being totally rested while everyone else has the wear and tear of an 82 game season.
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Kucherov is a weird case too though.
He missed 56 games in the COVID shortened season following a compressed schedule after the bubble where they won the cup and he had been playing games in September of 2020 before returning in April/May 2021.
Kucherov's case was more like a guy had a full training camp, got injured in camp, and returned for day 1 of the playoffs.
Landeskog's last game was June 26 2022. Let's say he returns for day 1 of the playoffs this year (~April 21) he would have not played any type of game for 1,030 days.
That is pretty much unprecedented for any athlete that I can remember in my lifetime
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 11-15-2024 at 10:33 AM.
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11-15-2024, 10:42 AM
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Franchise Player
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Also, IIRC, Kucherov was practicing with the team, starting in February
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11-15-2024, 12:23 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Kucherov is a weird case too though.
He missed 56 games in the COVID shortened season following a compressed schedule after the bubble where they won the cup and he had been playing games in September of 2020 before returning in April/May 2021.
Kucherov's case was more like a guy had a full training camp, got injured in camp, and returned for day 1 of the playoffs.
Landeskog's last game was June 26 2022. Let's say he returns for day 1 of the playoffs this year (~April 21) he would have not played any type of game for 1,030 days.
That is pretty much unprecedented for any athlete that I can remember in my lifetime
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Closest would be Mario missing 3 seasons and then coming back, but 66 is on a different planet than most players.
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11-15-2024, 12:28 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
Closest would be Mario missing 3 seasons and then coming back, but 66 is on a different planet than most players.
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Yeah duh how did I forget that...but also a bit of a different scenario too...and yeah Lemieux was on a different level.
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11-15-2024, 01:30 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Totally different. His final year before retiring he had a PPG of 1.60. His first year in coming back, he had a 1.76
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11-15-2024, 01:45 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
Totally different. His final year before retiring he had a PPG of 1.60. His first year in coming back, he had a 1.76
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Jeez, 76 points in 43 games with 35 goals. Incredible.
Still remember how they had a dedicated camera with screen-in-screen following him during his first game back.
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11-15-2024, 01:51 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
Jeez, 76 points in 43 games with 35 goals. Incredible.
Still remember how they had a dedicated camera with screen-in-screen following him during his first game back.
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It was against the Leafs, iirc, and he had an assist and then a goal. Hilarious.
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