2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Andersson had a big start. He seemed like a guy hoping to increase his value after a few so so year.

Kuzmenko has been crap and I wonder if he is just waiting for a trade. He is killing his value. I’d get him out asap.

Weegar was one of the first players to say he is here for the rebuild. I can’t see him being sour. Same goes for Kadri. Coleman is a pro and I can’t see him sulking either but you ever know.

The hope of getting some good picks and assets for Mantha and Kuzmenko have fizzled. Unless Kuzmenko can really pick up his play.

Andersson is the best option to get a good return.

Perfect example of selling low, due to impatience.

It's a long season, and we are only 15 games in. Kuzmenko will have better stretches, and his value will increase as we approach the deadline.

Patience is the key. And Canadian fans just don't seem to have ANY.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

WPG manages their franchise much like CAR: they know they don't have the budget, or the location/cache to attract UFAs, so they have to keep their picks, and develop within. Which they have done a very good job of, and it has served them well.

However, at some point, you have to go for it. And you have to think that, with Helly, Connor, Scheifele, Morrisey, Ehlers, and others, all in their primes, and the team being off to an historic start, THIS is the year to push the chips in.

That makes them a perfect trading partner for the Flames, re Andersson.

100% agree with you on that.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Perfect example of selling low, due to impatience.

It's a long season, and we are only 15 games in. Kuzmenko will have better stretches, and his value will increase as we approach the deadline.

Patience is the key. And Canadian fans just don't seem to have ANY.

I’m very patient.

A small heater for Kuzmenko probably doesn’t do much to change his value. Right now he’s taking a spot a young player could be in.

[BigThief]

What GM doesn't know what Kuzmenko is? A hot stretch isn't going to improve his value much if at all. He's a one trick pony when it comes to a player, point producer and that's it. When he isn't going that he's easy to pass over. Unless he stars producing big numbers I can't see him flipped for anything more than a 3rd or 4th.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by paulie walnuts

i’m very patient.

A small heater for kuzmenko probably doesn’t do much to change his value. right now he’s taking a spot a young player could be in.

lol

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by BigThief

What GM doesn't know what Kuzmenko is? A hot stretch isn't going to improve his value much if at all. He's a one trick pony when it comes to a player, point producer and that's it. When he isn't going that he's easy to pass over. Unless he stars producing big numbers I can't see him flipped for anything more than a 3rd or 4th.

Everyone knows what every player is, more or less.

But no one is looking to acquire a player like Kuzmenko, with 65 games remaining in the season.

And just because every GM knows 'what Kuzmenko is', doesn't mean his value can't change. If he is on a 15-20 goal pace at the deadline, he is not going to have the same value (nor should he) that he would have if he is on a 35-40 goal pace. Teams like acquiring goal scorers at the deadline - they always have value. Let's... I don't know... be patient for a while?

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Everyone knows what every player is, more or less.

But no one is looking to acquire a player like Kuzmenko, with 65 games remaining in the season.

And just because every GM knows 'what Kuzmenko is', doesn't mean his value can't change. If he is on a 15-20 goal pace at the deadline, he is not going to have the same value (nor should he) that he would have if he is on a 35-40 goal pace. Teams like acquiring goal scorers at the deadline - they always have value. Let's... I don't know... be patient for a while?

If Kuzmenko is only in pace for 15-20 goals at deadline I doubt he will have any value. He really needs to start getting some goals. Think he’s going to need to be at 30 goal pace to be tradeable .

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I’m very patient.

A small heater for Kuzmenko probably doesn’t do much to change his value. Right now he’s taking a spot a young player could be in.

Kuzmenko is not holding up a spot for any player that deserves NHL minutes right now. It sounds good to just put young players on a team but they have to be ready and have earned it.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

If Kuzmenko is only in pace for 15-20 goals at deadline I doubt he will have any value. He really needs to start getting some goals. Think he’s going to need to be at 30 goal pace to be tradeable .

To be tradeable? I don’t think so. Teams know he can go on a heater and produce in the right situations, so playoffs teams missing than one extra offensive piece will be looking.

His production will impact his value, for sure, but he’ll be tradable at 20 goals.

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

To be tradeable? I don’t think so. Teams know he can go on a heater and produce in the right situations, so playoffs teams missing than one extra offensive piece will be looking.

His production will impact his value, for sure, but he’ll be tradable at 20 goals.

I wonder what kind of deal he'll earn himself after this season. Certainly not playing like a guy in his contract year right now.

[TheScorpion]

I still think Kuzmenko makes all kind of sense for the Avs. Retain salary, maybe take back Georgiev, and try to sell them a package of Kuz and Vladar. I bet you could get good value there.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

lol

Great insight not sure what that has to do with anything.

Kuzmenko is a negative. He proves zero 5 on 5 and nothing on the PP. has 1 goals and 19 shots in 15 games.

If he’s not taking a roster over a young player who probably provides the same but getting valuable experiences n

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Great insight not sure what that has to do with anything.

Kuzmenko is a negative. He proves zero 5 on 5 and nothing on the PP. has 1 goals and 19 shots in 15 games.

If he’s not taking a roster over a young player who probably provides the same but getting valuable experiences n

Which young player deserves his spot, specifically?

[SuperMatt18]

The only guy Kuzmenko is really blocking right now is Pelletier.

Coronato/Zary are slotted fine on the roster.

Klapka is fine on the 4th line for now.

Honzek could use time in the AHL.

Really it's only Pelletier being blocked and I don't really seem him and Kuzmenko as all that similar anyways.

They've played 15 games, no reason to rush anything before the 30 game mark.

Especially since all of our forwards are struggling to produce. Honestly I question the passive systems right now more than anything, the players aren't taking many risks and aren't generating much offense to go with it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

Which young player deserves his spot, specifically?

We could try Pelts on the Backlund line bumping up Coronato.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Perfect example of selling low, due to impatience.

It's a long season, and we are only 15 games in. Kuzmenko will have better stretches, and his value will increase as we approach the deadline.

Patience is the key. And Canadian fans just don't seem to have ANY.

He is showing why he won’t garner much of a return though. He is an offense only winger that is a detriment when he isn’t scoring. He probably only gets a third max if he goes on a heater into the trade deadline. Mantha will probably return more if he has an okay season.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m also not rushing to trade him lol. I was speaking about Royale9 post about vets being unhappy.

I’m just taking a guess he might be one. Based on his play and contribution. If he’s voicing displeasure and he provides zero on the ice nonsense keeping him around his value isn’t changing much.

Also the pitch Conroy and Huska made to him to waive to come here sounded like score a bunch and we will trade you.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Ped

Rumor according to Friedman that Athanasiou will go on waivers today.

Oilers should see if they can pick him up for two 2nds...

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Royle9

From what I’ve heard, this has already started for some.
I’ve got no specific names, but there’s a handful of guys who’ve realized this rebuild isn’t something they’ve come to terms with nor do they want to be apart of long term.

With that said that doesn’t mean Craig’s going to do them a favour and just ship out anyone who doesn’t want to be here, but the room could end up in rough shape if these guys with poor attitudes don’t turn it around or gtfo.

I personally think they need to bring in more youth, I think the team needs to surround the young guys with the few dedicated vets rather than 1-2 young guys rotating on 1-2 lines. Without Backlund and Lomberg the room can be pretty darn quiet.

that's kind of weird timing no. for any of these vets they've seen the entire old core replaced in two seasons of chaos and drama. Now the org is sort of starting fresh and bringing in new talent and off to a 7-5-3 start and you decide I'm out. that's odd. who would that even be. (If it's Huberdeau you can just mutually agree to terminate the contract and no hard feelings buddy)

[Rhett44]

I really don't think Kuzmenko is going to be worth much either way.

If a contender is trying to add for a cup run, they aren't usually looking for a 1 dimensional powerplay specialist. Who also is known to disappear for long stretches at a time.