2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Ped

Not sure how Kuzmenko's season will go, but remember he finished last season with 17 points in 11 games. In his previous 18 with the Flames, he had 8 points, including a 6-game streak with no points before he went on the heater.


It's a long season yet.

Plus he's playing for a contract. About as motivated as he could get.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by dammage79

And Coronato, and Bahl.

A quadruple win.

[dammage79]

Overall, Kuzmenkos doing the right thing. He's playing the right way things just aren't going in for him yet. This team is so weird. They're a good group but there's little chemistry out there outside of the obvious and long term pairings.

Huskas doing things to milk this roster for what it's worth but I wouldn't be upset with a little alchemy from him. Mix things up for a 10 game stretch. Find some new fits.

[CFO]

I could see Sharangovich traded for a center.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by CFO

I could see Sharangovich traded for a center.

I think part of the reason why Sharky got re-signed a full year ahead of schedule is because Conroy wanted to show the league some players do want to be here.

We re-signed him, his extension hasn't even kicked in, I doubt we see that guy moved anytime soon.

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Conroy won’t sabotage the players, because it’s very important to create a culture in which losing doesn’t become acceptable. But I think the Flames should trade Andersson and others if they get good offers. (By good, I mean good relative to each player’s value). A natural byproduct of that would be getting worse and likely losing more games. However, I imagine Conroy would also bring in undervalued players in an Andersson trade, as he has so far, thereby cushioning the blow.

As a fan, I just can’t imagine being in the second year of a re-whatever and only having late-1st rounders.

If you look at the last 10 teams in the league: MTL, NSH, SJS, PHI, ANA, CBJ, CHI, SEA, DET, PIT. I find it difficult to imagine us out-sucking any of these teams. I mean maybe NSH, PHI, and DET go on a heater and play more up to potential. But also between 11OA and where we currently are, there's also OTT, NYI and BUF.

I look at all those teams below us and compare it to our roster and we are clearly better. We can purge everything at the deadline and we would still probably have accumulated enough points to fall within the 11-16OA range.

At this point, that pick we traded is pretty much sunk cost, and I expect to have two late 1sts (FLA and NJD), plus whatever we can get for our trades this year. It is what it is.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

If you look at the last 10 teams in the league: MTL, NSH, SJS, PHI, ANA, CBJ, CHI, SEA, DET, PIT. I find it difficult to imagine us out-sucking any of these teams. I mean maybe NSH, PHI, and DET go on a heater and play more up to potential. But also between 11OA and where we currently are, there's also OTT, NYI and BUF.

I look at all those teams below us and compare it to our roster and we are clearly better. We can purge everything at the deadline and we would still probably have accumulated enough points to fall within the 11-16OA range.

At this point, that pick we traded is pretty much sunk cost, and I expect to have two late 1sts (FLA and NJD), plus whatever we can get for our trades this year. It is what it is.

Excellent post, and some very good points.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

If you look at the last 10 teams in the league: MTL, NSH, SJS, PHI, ANA, CBJ, CHI, SEA, DET, PIT. I find it difficult to imagine us out-sucking any of these teams. I mean maybe NSH, PHI, and DET go on a heater and play more up to potential. But also between 11OA and where we currently are, there's also OTT, NYI and BUF.

I look at all those teams below us and compare it to our roster and we are clearly better. We can purge everything at the deadline and we would still probably have accumulated enough points to fall within the 11-16OA range.

At this point, that pick we traded is pretty much sunk cost, and I expect to have two late 1sts (FLA and NJD), plus whatever we can get for our trades this year. It is what it is.

Since starting the season 5-0-1, the Flames have gone 2-5-2 good for 6 of a possible 18 points, good for 0.333 PTS%.

I think the Flames are very much in contention for those bottom-10 spots.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

If you look at the last 10 teams in the league: MTL, NSH, SJS, PHI, ANA, CBJ, CHI, SEA, DET, PIT. I find it difficult to imagine us out-sucking any of these teams. I mean maybe NSH, PHI, and DET go on a heater and play more up to potential. But also between 11OA and where we currently are, there's also OTT, NYI and BUF.

I look at all those teams below us and compare it to our roster and we are clearly better. We can purge everything at the deadline and we would still probably have accumulated enough points to fall within the 11-16OA range.

At this point, that pick we traded is pretty much sunk cost, and I expect to have two late 1sts (FLA and NJD), plus whatever we can get for our trades this year. It is what it is.

Yeah top 10 is almost out of the question, the only hope is for some Conroy voodoo at the draft on some team that doesn't want to wait, for me, CHI and DET might be ripe for the pickings.

[Sandman]

The true advantage that most of the teams that are contending for a bottom-10 finish have over us is that they seem to be full of personnel that are playing like they don't give a s**t. The Flames have leaders that seem to want to prove the doubters wrong.

And our goaltending doesn't suck.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Yeah top 10 is almost out of the question, the only hope is for some Conroy voodoo at the draft on some team that doesn't want to wait, for me, CHI and DET might be ripe for the pickings.

We're 3 points out of the botom-10, after starting the season on a 5-0-1 heater. I'm not sure where the confidence in saying 'top 10 is almost out of the question' comes from.

[My2Cents]

I dont think a lot has gone wrong this season (yet) and we are still only middle of the pack at best. I also think a long losing streak is much more likely that a long winning streak.

Its a long season, and its in its infancy. I am confident we will be bottom 10.

[AustinL_NHL]

So much has gone insanely right this season that has an extended poor luck streak is due.

- crazy comeback in Vancouver opener
- 2 overturned Oilers goals leading to a comeback
- last minute comeback against Pittsburgh
- overturned 3-1 Montreal goal leading to a comeback
- 2-goal comebacks against Boston & Buffalo to get a point in each

Doesn't seem all that sustainable to me. That's 10 points right there that the Flames have gotten despite being in very poor game situations that they at the very least arguably should've lost.

I have very little doubt they'll be a bottom 10 team this season, and if they're not, the hockey gods truly have themselves a good chuckle every time a supposed legit Flames rebuild comes along lol

[MrMike]

Middle of the pack at the beginning, team was ready and knew they had to work hard.

But talent will beat out the hard work.

Trade UFAs and players out of the age range.

If we weren’t holding onto Huberdeau/Kadri/Coleman/Weegar, we’d have room for Kuzmenko, Andersson, but we are locked into too many old contracts already.

Sharky put up numbers and like the last poster said, shows people want to be here.

Right now Zary, Wolf and Coronato are leading this team. Coronato was sent down, kept working and made his was back up, Wolf has been competing with Vladar every game.

Keep this compete level and turn it into a culture.

And with how the last draft went, I’m okay with us picking twice in the first round with our highest being 5-8 if they continue to repeat what they just did at the last draft.

[stemit14]

We are starting to see some separation as far teams with impressive records that, if they keep up their level of play, they should be buyers at the TDL this year. Focusing on their records and games played (rather than just points), I would say the teams that could be buyers at this point are:

Winnipeg
Florida
Minnesota
New Jersey
Los Angeles
Carolina
Washington
Vegas
New York
Vancouver

I’m sure this list will change. Toronto, Colorado and Dallas are likely to be buyers as well but they have pretty mediocre records at this point.

Of those teams, I’m wondering which ones would have a strong interest in any of the flames potential trade pieces (Mantha, Kuzmenko, Barrie and possibly Andersson). Personally, I could see these as good fits:

Kuzmenko to Washington - the caps have a long history of Russian players and he could compliment Ovechkin on the powerplay. Their powerplay is struggling so far this year so the need might be there. They could hope Kuzmenko helps their powerplay the same way he helped spark Calgary’s powerplay last season.

Mantha to Minnesota - they could use some size on their wing and 6’5” forwards with some scoring touch seem to always find a landing spot during the TDL.

Barrie to Carolina - not sure if a fit because there will be better options for them but they will need defence and Barrie will be inexpensive to acquire.

Andersson to Winnipeg - I kind of doubt Andersson gets traded this year but I could see the Jets being a good fit. They are likely to be all in this year after this start to the season and because their core is in their prime - they won’t want to wait much longer to make a big playoff push. Their team has looked “perfect” so far this season but most would have thought they could use some help on defence when looking at their roster. Plus the Jets have great center depth on their team and in their prospect pool (Lambert and Yager) so they could afford to include one as a necessary piece in an Andersson trade.

[Tbull8]

Yager might be a bit easier to get from them given that he wasn’t their own draft pick. And giving up Rutger for Andersson isn’t THAT hard to sell fans on given their cup aspirations

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

If you look at the last 10 teams in the league: MTL, NSH, SJS, PHI, ANA, CBJ, CHI, SEA, DET, PIT. I find it difficult to imagine us out-sucking any of these teams. I mean maybe NSH, PHI, and DET go on a heater and play more up to potential. But also between 11OA and where we currently are, there's also OTT, NYI and BUF.

I look at all those teams below us and compare it to our roster and we are clearly better. We can purge everything at the deadline and we would still probably have accumulated enough points to fall within the 11-16OA range.

At this point, that pick we traded is pretty much sunk cost, and I expect to have two late 1sts (FLA and NJD), plus whatever we can get for our trades this year. It is what it is.

This is the way to think about it and...actually enjoy hockey games! imagine that

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by stemit14

We are starting to see some separation as far teams with impressive records that, if they keep up their level of play, they should be buyers at the TDL this year. Focusing on their records and games played (rather than just points), I would say the teams that could be buyers at this point are:

Winnipeg
Florida
Minnesota
New Jersey
Los Angeles
Carolina
Washington
Vegas
New York
Vancouver

I’m sure this list will change. Toronto, Colorado and Dallas are likely to be buyers as well but they have pretty mediocre records at this point.

Of those teams, I’m wondering which ones would have a strong interest in any of the flames potential trade pieces (Mantha, Kuzmenko, Barrie and possibly Andersson). Personally, I could see these as good fits:

Kuzmenko to Washington - the caps have a long history of Russian players and he could compliment Ovechkin on the powerplay. Their powerplay is struggling so far this year so the need might be there. They could hope Kuzmenko helps their powerplay the same way he helped spark Calgary’s powerplay last season.

Mantha to Minnesota - they could use some size on their wing and 6’5” forwards with some scoring touch seem to always find a landing spot during the TDL.

Barrie to Carolina - not sure if a fit because there will be better options for them but they will need defence and Barrie will be inexpensive to acquire.

Andersson to Winnipeg - I kind of doubt Andersson gets traded this year but I could see the Jets being a good fit. They are likely to be all in this year after this start to the season and because their core is in their prime - they won’t want to wait much longer to make a big playoff push. Their team has looked “perfect” so far this season but most would have thought they could use some help on defence when looking at their roster. Plus the Jets have great center depth on their team and in their prospect pool (Lambert and Yager) so they could afford to include one as a necessary piece in an Andersson trade.

I could really see Andersson to Winnipeg, and they have some great pieces we could pillage...

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

If you look at the last 10 teams in the league: MTL, NSH, SJS, PHI, ANA, CBJ, CHI, SEA, DET, PIT. I find it difficult to imagine us out-sucking any of these teams. I mean maybe NSH, PHI, and DET go on a heater and play more up to potential. But also between 11OA and where we currently are, there's also OTT, NYI and BUF.

I look at all those teams below us and compare it to our roster and we are clearly better. We can purge everything at the deadline and we would still probably have accumulated enough points to fall within the 11-16OA range.

At this point, that pick we traded is pretty much sunk cost, and I expect to have two late 1sts (FLA and NJD), plus whatever we can get for our trades this year. It is what it is.

Just looking at the rosters, NSH, PHI, DET, OTT, NYI, BUF, SEA, MTL and PIT all seem like reasonable possibilities to finish higher than the Flames. All those teams are a maximum of 4 points behind despite the Flames’ hot start, with many having played less games. The way the Flames finished the year last year and how they’ve played since the 5-0-1 start are consistent with a bottom 10 finish.

That said, I always love it when the Flames win, and I love how the team is playing hard and in close losses. So, if the team ends up with two late 1sts in a draft with so many centres in the top 10, I’ll be sad, but I will have enjoyed the team’s relatively good play.

[Aarongavey]

The Flames historically have had pretty good luck on the injury front. If that holds they could contend to stay outside the top 10. But if they lose more than 2 forwards for extended periods out of their top 9 or if they lose one of Rasmus or Weegar they are a bottom ten team for sure imo.