2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

His size, or that it was broadcast?

Lol. He had nothing to be ashamed of. I think it was that it was broadcasted.

[stemit14]

Was thinking about this team’s record going forward the rest of the year and where that would place them in the standings… mostly related to the 1st round pick owed to Montreal this year.

The flames are currently sitting at 16 points after 14 games played. Around 0.57 hockey.

If they keep at that same pace the rest of the year - that puts them at 94 points by the end of the year. Last year, that would have had them finish just outside the playoffs in the western conference. Picking 16th overall. If this were the case, the flames pick would go to Montreal.

If the flames play at a lower pace and end up playing 0.500 hockey for the rest of the year, that’s 84 points. Last year, that would have had them picking 11th overall. If this were the case, the flames pick would go to Montreal.

If the flames really struggle the rest of the year and play around 0.400 hockey, that’s around 70 points. Last year, that would have had them picking 5th overall. If this were the case, the panthers pick would go to Montreal.

If the flames play at a higher pace of 0.600 hockey, that’s around 98 points. Last year, that would have had them in the last wild card spot and their pick would be 19th overall. If this were the case, the flames pick would go to Montreal.

These are just a few scenarios but I could honestly see any of them playing out for the flames this year at this point. If Wolf+Vladar keep playing well, I wouldn’t expect the flames to drop below a 0.500 pace unless they trade Andersson during the season.

Are there many players on the flames performing at a pace that is unsustainable? The team shooting percentage is 9.9% which is 23rd in the league. The goaltending has been solid but not at a level that I would think is unsustainable. It’s possible the team is playing over their heads so far this season but I think you could argue their record at this point is deserved and they could keep this pace up for the year.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Was thinking about this team’s record going forward the rest of the year and where that would place them in the standings… mostly related to the 1st round pick owed to Montreal this year.

The flames are currently sitting at 16 points after 14 games played. Around 0.57 hockey.

If they keep at that same pace the rest of the year - that puts them at 94 points by the end of the year. Last year, that would have had them finish just outside the playoffs in the western conference. Picking 16th overall. If this were the case, the flames pick would go to Montreal.

If the flames play at a lower pace and end up playing 0.500 hockey for the rest of the year, that’s 84 points. Last year, that would have had them picking 11th overall. If this were the case, the flames pick would go to Montreal.

If the flames really struggle the rest of the year and play around 0.400 hockey, that’s around 70 points. Last year, that would have had them picking 5th overall. If this were the case, the panthers pick would go to Montreal.

If the flames play at a higher pace of 0.600 hockey, that’s around 98 points. Last year, that would have had them in the last wild card spot and their pick would be 19th overall. If this were the case, the flames pick would go to Montreal.

These are just a few scenarios but I could honestly see any of them playing out for the flames this year at this point. If Wolf+Vladar keep playing well, I wouldn’t expect the flames to drop below a 0.500 pace unless they trade Andersson during the season.

Are there many players on the flames performing at a pace that is unsustainable? The team shooting percentage is 9.9% which is 23rd in the league. The goaltending has been solid but not at a level that I would think is unsustainable. It’s possible the team is playing over their heads so far this season but I think you could argue their record at this point is deserved and they could keep this pace up for the year.

Yeah, it's getting kinda interesting. I personally think that adds some time pressure to trade andersson and maybe a forward away sooner rather than later. But who knows.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Yeah, it's getting kinda interesting. I personally think that adds some time pressure to trade andersson and maybe a forward away sooner rather than later. But who knows.

I don’t think the Flames see it that way. They’re not under ‘pressure’ to trade anyone. It’s the teams that are looking to solidify their status as a cup contender, or even a playoff team, that are under pressure.

For now, the Flames can sit tight and let the chips fall.

[Badgers Nose]

Games start to get a lot harder this time of year. And it keeps ramping up right to the end. The comebacks where Flames steal a point or two will probably end as teams get better at buckling down and preserving their lead.

It seems every year a team or two comes out of the gate faster than fans expect. This year, that’s us.

I think this happy predicament resolves itself and we pick in the top ten. Subtract 5 pts that we stole so far and we are right at the bottom of the league standings.

[memphusk]

Watching Wolf's Progress is a win on it's own. Calgary has a goalie.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Watching Wolf's Progress is a win on it's own. Calgary has a goalie.

Agreed. Throw in what Zary has been showing and the win doubles.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Was thinking about this team’s record going forward the rest of the year and where that would place them in the standings… mostly related to the 1st round pick owed to Montreal this year.

The flames are currently sitting at 16 points after 14 games played. Around 0.57 hockey.

If they keep at that same pace the rest of the year - that puts them at 94 points by the end of the year. Last year, that would have had them finish just outside the playoffs in the western conference. Picking 16th overall. If this were the case, the flames pick would go to Montreal.

If the flames play at a lower pace and end up playing 0.500 hockey for the rest of the year, that’s 84 points. Last year, that would have had them picking 11th overall. If this were the case, the flames pick would go to Montreal.

If the flames really struggle the rest of the year and play around 0.400 hockey, that’s around 70 points. Last year, that would have had them picking 5th overall. If this were the case, the panthers pick would go to Montreal.

If the flames play at a higher pace of 0.600 hockey, that’s around 98 points. Last year, that would have had them in the last wild card spot and their pick would be 19th overall. If this were the case, the flames pick would go to Montreal.

These are just a few scenarios but I could honestly see any of them playing out for the flames this year at this point. If Wolf+Vladar keep playing well, I wouldn’t expect the flames to drop below a 0.500 pace unless they trade Andersson during the season.

Are there many players on the flames performing at a pace that is unsustainable? The team shooting percentage is 9.9% which is 23rd in the league. The goaltending has been solid but not at a level that I would think is unsustainable. It’s possible the team is playing over their heads so far this season but I think you could argue their record at this point is deserved and they could keep this pace up for the year.

Flames had an easy start to the schedule.

Last ten they've been 3-5-2, so 0.400 hockey. This includes the back half of that win streak.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Agreed. Throw in what Zary has been showing and the win doubles.

And Coronato, and Bahl.

[Vinny01]

Fabbro on waivers

[pgsieve]

I would be shopping Vladar now

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by pgsieve

I would be shopping Vladar now

I’m guessing he will be gone if any GM offers good value

[Nelson]

I will be sad if the Flames give away an 11th-16th pick, only to see a great centre prospect available when their pick is used. I don’t see that as unrealistic given the number of centres at the top of the 2025 draft, and that outcome would set the rebuild back. However, I trust Craig Conroy. I believe he’ll trade Andersson, Vladar, Mantha, Kuzmenko and Barrie when his prices are met, and the Flames will finish top 10. They’ll draft a centre and give up FLA’s pick in the late 20s or 30s.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Kuzmenko really has killed any shot at a decent return. I’ll be happy with a 3rd and 4th at this rate.

He will have to go on a huge heater.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Kuzmenko really has killed any shot at a decent return. I’ll be happy with a 3rd and 4th at this rate.

He will have to go on a huge heater.

I’m hoping for a 3rd (based on current scoring levels).

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I’m hoping for a 3rd (based on current scoring levels).

I don’t think he even gets a third if his scoring rate doesn’t pick up. He is back to cap dump Kuzmenko.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I will be sad if the Flames give away an 11th-16th pick, only to see a great centre prospect available when their pick is used. I don’t see that as unrealistic given the number of centres at the top of the 2025 draft, and that outcome would set the rebuild back. However, I trust Craig Conroy. I believe he’ll trade Andersson, Vladar, Mantha, Kuzmenko and Barrie when his prices are met, and the Flames will finish top 10. They’ll draft a centre and give up FLA’s pick in the late 20s or 30s.

The GM will stay on course, but not actively sabotage the players.

He will sell UFAs at the deadline any not add other than cap dump returns, but he won’t force moves to create more losses. That would be the quickest way to lose the vets and any form of caring and quickly start an awful spiral of a culture.

We will lose, we will pick about 7-8.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Flames had an easy start to the schedule.

Last ten they've been 3-5-2, so 0.400 hockey. This includes the back half of that win streak.

There's only so much Huska can squeeze. The Flames have been full marks for the majority of the games this season in terms of effort. The roster is what it is. The D group is what it is, which is not good. I believe the drop down the standings will continue for the Flames.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by MrMike

The GM will stay on course, but not actively sabotage the players.

He will sell UFAs at the deadline any not add other than cap dump returns, but he won’t force moves to create more losses. That would be the quickest way to lose the vets and any form of caring and quickly start an awful spiral of a culture.

We will lose, we will pick about 7-8.

Conroy won’t sabotage the players, because it’s very important to create a culture in which losing doesn’t become acceptable. But I think the Flames should trade Andersson and others if they get good offers. (By good, I mean good relative to each player’s value). A natural byproduct of that would be getting worse and likely losing more games. However, I imagine Conroy would also bring in undervalued players in an Andersson trade, as he has so far, thereby cushioning the blow.

As a fan, I just can’t imagine being in the second year of a re-whatever and only having late-1st rounders.

[Ped]

Not sure how Kuzmenko's season will go, but remember he finished last season with 17 points in 11 games. In his previous 18 with the Flames, he had 8 points, including a 6-game streak with no points before he went on the heater.


It's a long season yet.