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Old 11-05-2024, 10:58 PM   #581
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I guess I shouldn't have voted for Trump.
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Old 11-05-2024, 10:58 PM   #582
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Any talk about that Iowa polster that missed it by 17%?

Didn't see this coming to be honest.

Oh well, this is who America voted for. "They are who we thought they were".
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I guess I shouldn't have voted for Trump.
Dont blame me! I voted for Kodos!
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Im sorry - how does it become vilifying when you call out people who are against IVF, abortion of any kind, even rape. Women are dying because doctors wont terminate the pregnancy because of the new law, then both die. This happened hundred of times this year and recently you can google texas to show the impacts. How messed up is that?

Now the parents say on camera, they didnt know that the new government controls that now, so they both die. They will sue but lose because they cannot help the misscarriage along or remove the fetus as it is again the law. So now, the failed fetus kills the mom, we have to carry to term even if it kills the poor 20 year old girl. Congrats, i still think you a controlling sick f word.

Also - why do you think it is ok to Marry a 14 years old girl at 27. That's messed up man but that's what is currently being pushed in states and you are supporting?

Grooming is marrying a 14 year old, why do you think the Rep are pushing this law now and not 10 years ago? it is really sick

Messed up man, doesn't affect me, but every person who posts happy #### in here should watch and google the new laws and the women and the parents that are still alive. Unreal.

Anyone who is happy, isnt really ok, laughing about women dying , grooming kids and allowing marriage at 14 is a sick f.

Enough, know what changed today and the first bill in wisconson and how it will spread. Just like abortion. Know you voted in someone who activtly talked about rape, convicted, and now they put in law so you can do it at 14, and carry to term. (carry to term is already the law of the lan in texas and som red states, now when your sick uncle does that ####)

But certain rep and trump and a whole state is ok with for year 12 - 14 year old grooming marriage, sick. Why do you think they took over the word everywhere, its being done and now on the books to be a law so its ok to do that to a 14 year old. sick fs again. but you chose to be happy about that? sick


And still Cap- Most try to be polite, but anyone happy for a rep win, if it is in the morning, supports texas new laws and Wis, marry at 14 grooming. Just a bunch of sick old men

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Old 11-05-2024, 10:59 PM   #585
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I keep seeing people trashing the Dems for their campaign, for Harris’ lack of policy initiatives, for not distancing herself from Biden on Israel.

Those are a drop in the bucket to the real mistakes.

The Dems lost because a) America is filled with an uneducated electorate who are b) easily swayed by propaganda and fear and c) they nominated a black/brown woman, which is very problematic due in large part because of a) and b).

Trump tapped into fear and hate, which Americans have in spades. Americans got grifted by a grifter. All this nitpicking about the Harris campaign is grasping at straws.

Trump won because he’s the leader Americans want and most identify with. Since Harris will never be Trump, it didn’t matter how perfect her campaign was. Even for a white man it would have been difficult for the Dems to win. The democratic party’s platform doesn’t align with the electorate in its current form.
None of that explains why Trump increased his share of the Latino vote by 10 per cent, and is now up to almost 45 per cent. The Democrats need to figure out why they’re shedding working-class Latino support.
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I remember the feeling of disbelief in 2016. Feels much the same tonight, except worse.

A wannabe dictator is now at the helm.
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None of that explains why Trump increased his share of the Latino vote by 10 per cent, and is now up to 45 per cent. The Democrats need to figure out why they’re shedding working-class Latino support.
People voting against their own best interest is the conservative bread and butter.

Wish I understood it in any meaningful way beyond the alternative is usually neoliberals who do f all to actually make people's lives better.
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You do realize that the bolded is exactly what trump has been doing for the last decade and it’s been his exact ‘route to government’ two out of three times?
That’s your answer? A big boy did it and ran away!! The rhetoric from BOTH sides has been a total disgrace and the Dems are equally as guilty as Trump.
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Grooming is marrying a 14 year old, why do you think the Rep are pushing this law now and not 10 years ago? it is really sick

Messed up man
Man...I dont know where you're at, but have you talked to a 14 year old girl lately?

I'd rather jump off a bridge.
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None of that explains why Trump increased his share of the Latino vote by 10 per cent, and is now up to almost 45 per cent. The Democrats need to figure out why they’re shedding working-class Latino support.
Sure it does. Latinos are as racist and mysoginistic as white people.
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Any talk about that Iowa polster that missed it by 17%?

Didn't see this coming to be honest.

Oh well, this is who America voted for. "They are who we thought they were".
A wise person mentioned early that they did the best they could with the information they were given and that their huge miss should be excused.
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None of that explains why Trump increased his share of the Latino vote by 10 per cent, and is now up to almost 45 per cent. The Democrats need to figure out why they’re shedding working-class Latino support.
He also improved his share of black voters. He's currently projected to win 30+% of voters of colour.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1854019353450029091

This should hopefully be the final nail in the coffin of performative, liberal, identity politics. The divisions are clearly more defined along class lines than racial ones.

Yes, racism and bigotry should always be condemned, but condemning it without trying to meaningfully change material conditions makes you look like a disingenuous elitist.
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I remember the feeling of disbelief in 2016. Feels much the same tonight, except worse.

A wannabe dictator is now at the helm.

Trump isn't even the scary one. It's the extreme-right MAGA lunatics who will no doubt fill his administration that we need to be concerned about. Trump is still a complete buffoon who will likely spend most of his time golfing and eating cheeseburgers until he croaks.
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None of that explains why Trump increased his share of the Latino vote by 10 per cent, and is now up to almost 45 per cent. The Democrats need to figure out why they’re shedding working-class Latino support.
Did you not read the part about hate and fear, uneducated and susceptible to misinformation and propaganda?

But seriously, obviously there are a dozen or more reasons why Harris lost. But pointing to things like Israel and didk cheney’s endosrment barely even register. Which is what I originally replied to.

I also don’t think the Latino vote decided this election. They aren’t a huge voting block in PA, NC, MI or WI
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What did Harris do to get a republican to vote against their beliefs? I can’t think of anything. Not being trump was never going to win this election, though a lot of people still seem to think it was.
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Hopefully they officially eliminate election polling after this.

I thought it was strange that almost every outlet had Kamala winning. I also kept hearing about record turn out, which usually isn't a good thing for the incumbent government.

I don't know why people are surprised.
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Now this doesn’t seem to be going well at all
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... Also at the risk of doing exactly what Jon Stewart is saying is going to be wrong I'll just go back to my whole thing from the DNC about how they should have had a lot more focus on unions, labour, blue collar industrial jobs and the like. Walz was a popular pick because it seemed like a signal they were going that way and then they basically just... stopped.
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This should hopefully be the final nail in the coffin of performative, liberal, identity politics. The divisions are clearly more defined along class lines than racial ones..
Wish I could give all my ‘thanks’ to this right here.
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As far as the endorsement battle, it's hard to believe Lebron, T-Swift and the Avengers didn't do more for the Dems.
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